They are still selling PC with PS/2 keyboards as standard.
This week I installed a system that runs off a serial port. Granted, the kit comes with a USB-to-serial adapter incase there is no available serial port but it's still converting to serial. I also used a powered VGA splitter for monitors. It's amazing how much archaic technology I use each week which is why I am very happy to use Apple's products as my personal devices.
I still like the idea that Apple supplies a "core" that would be common to all watches and then the fashion companies provide variations on the iWatch for different styles, in the same way iPhone case companies provide thousands of varieties of cases and covers.
Nope. That'd be like licensing the OS which Apple tried and which didn't work out at all.
Outer styling, wristbands, etc., are all important aspects of the design of the product and impact the user experience. Apple needs to control that.
Letting others do the "trim" would also dilute any of Apple's future efforts to protect its IP.
Nope. That'd be like licensing the OS which Apple tried and which didn't work out at all.
Typically I'd agree but the wearable market is very different than anything Apple has previously attempted. Just look at range in both prices and styles that watches take. It's hard to imagine that having one design with a couple colours like they do with their iPhone is going to work here. My guess is Apple will want to control all aspects of the build but I wouldn't rule it out because the wearables market is dramatically different.
John is typically very respectful of Apple and their desire for secrecy so i find it shocking that he would blurt out something like this. which leads me to believe that either he doesn't really know and he's taking the piss. Or he does know and he knows that it is actually nothing like what the rumors are saying. After all he said 'thing', not device. A 'thing' could be a device, or it could be software. It would be the best joke if all these folks were crapping themselves thinking Apple was going to release an official bracelet device so they rush to release and announce their devices first. Only to go through it all for nothing when Apple announces a new phone with all sorts of enhanced sensors (continuing what they started with the m7) and an SDK coming shortly. and oh yeah, it will also provide added support for all those fitbit, fuel bands, pebble etc.
He specifically said "wearable thing" you can't wear software unless it's within a piece of hardware.
It's a 2014 iPod with wrist form factor and biosensors.
that is a possibility. the iPod line has not been updated in nearly 2 years...except for minor things.
If memory serves, Gruber himself did speculate that he could definitely see the iPod product line morph into a wearable product. it's already happened with the 5th Gen iPod nano, before the silly iOS-like thing we have now. why not make it the Nano but even more nano...nano nano.
Yeah, I didn't think there was anything of substance to the article. Just echoing back what other sites posted about. You know how the rumor sites work: someone yells "smoke!" then someone else repeats, and this repeats another dozen times or so and eventually people believe, "where there's smoke there must be fire" and then the original person who yelled "smoke!" says, "I'm just kidding."
Daniel did a bang-up job of writing appealing, well researched, interest generating articles that, judging from the comments sections, A LOT of people read.
And Richard Bachman wants to know what's wrong with using alternate names, your Lordship?
The reasons I wouldn't trust DED/Corrections/Prince McLean as far as I could throw him? Here's a few:
I trust Gruber FAR more than I would EVER trust Dilger. Yes, Gruber links back to himself at times but the difference between him and Dilger is that Gruber links to himself and not an online alias as Daniel Dilger does. Dilger's relentless sock-puppeting, factual errors that - ironically - rarely if ever get "Corrected" are just some of the issues I have with DED.
To be fair though there are articles of Dilger's that I actually HAVE enjoyed reading but they are few and far between.
You're certainly entitled your opinion on DED (and I'll admit that like almost anyone else, he does not get everything right 100% of the time), but judging by the vast majority of reactions I see to his (what I consider to be often trenchant) analyses here on AI, I'd suggest that your view amounts to a hill of beans in this forum.
I am waiting for the Gruber sycophants to explain this..... He's prone to occasional 'joking', apparently.
:rolleyes:
Ireland pointed that tweet out yesterday so I'm not sure how it's getting missed. As for Gruber's original comment nothing about the comment comes across as jokey to me.
You're certainly entitled your opinion on DED (and I'll admit that like almost anyone else, he does not get everything right 100% of the time), but judging by the vast majority of reactions I see to his (what I consider to be often trenchant) analyses here on AI, I'd suggest that your view amounts to a hill of beans in this forum.
What you have to remember is that Fandroids and Microsofties have a different meaning for the words "true" and "untrue" than normal human beings do. You saw this in the reactions to the "I'm a Mac; I'm a PC" commercials. They would come on forums like this foaming at the mouth about the "lies" in the commercials—come to find out, "lie" didn't mean "false statement" (or even Winston Churchill's "terminological inexactitude") it just meant: "Pointing out that fact hurt my delicate widdle fee-fees!"
The reaction to Dilger's home truths is the same thing. They can never point out any actual inaccuracies, they just bitch and moan about how "biased" the story was. Well, yes, the truth is often biased—to paraphrase Colbert: "The truth has a (pro-Apple) bias". I blame the modern news media, who are so frightened of being accused of bias that they'll let anybody say anything and never call them on it—it's always "He said, she said." Astronomer vs. Flat-Earther—"Shape of the Earth: Opinions differ!"
What are you babbling about now? No, if anything recent hires indicate a launch is further out in the future.
It's only because we've been hearing stories of different hires over the last year or more that indicate a product could be coming to fruition now.
My point is that Apple wouldn't be hiring all these people if all they were launching is a Moto 360 type device. Obviously they're working on a range of wearable products. And yes I do think something will come out this fall. The most recent hires are sales/retail not engineering.
Eddy Cue wouldn't say this fall will see Apple's best pipeline in 25 years if this stuff was coming out in 2015. If all we get this fall is a bigger iPhone (which we should have had 2 years ago) and iPads with Touch ID the stock will get hammered. The stock is where it is right now because people are expecting new product categories (hardware or software/services) this fall, not next year. Don't forget Tim Cook said last year that we'd see new products "across 2014". So far the only new things people can buy are minor spec bumps to existing products.
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Or serial ports.
How else would you print stuff and use the mouse?
They are still selling PC with PS/2 keyboards as standard.
This week I installed a system that runs off a serial port. Granted, the kit comes with a USB-to-serial adapter incase there is no available serial port but it's still converting to serial. I also used a powered VGA splitter for monitors. It's amazing how much archaic technology I use each week which is why I am very happy to use Apple's products as my personal devices.
Note that printing is done with large parallel ports and USB is technically serial.
I still like the idea that Apple supplies a "core" that would be common to all watches and then the fashion companies provide variations on the iWatch for different styles, in the same way iPhone case companies provide thousands of varieties of cases and covers.
Nope. That'd be like licensing the OS which Apple tried and which didn't work out at all.
Outer styling, wristbands, etc., are all important aspects of the design of the product and impact the user experience. Apple needs to control that.
Letting others do the "trim" would also dilute any of Apple's future efforts to protect its IP.
Typically I'd agree but the wearable market is very different than anything Apple has previously attempted. Just look at range in both prices and styles that watches take. It's hard to imagine that having one design with a couple colours like they do with their iPhone is going to work here. My guess is Apple will want to control all aspects of the build but I wouldn't rule it out because the wearables market is dramatically different.
How can they possibly know that? They being third parties and the first parties themselves.
John is typically very respectful of Apple and their desire for secrecy so i find it shocking that he would blurt out something like this. which leads me to believe that either he doesn't really know and he's taking the piss. Or he does know and he knows that it is actually nothing like what the rumors are saying. After all he said 'thing', not device. A 'thing' could be a device, or it could be software. It would be the best joke if all these folks were crapping themselves thinking Apple was going to release an official bracelet device so they rush to release and announce their devices first. Only to go through it all for nothing when Apple announces a new phone with all sorts of enhanced sensors (continuing what they started with the m7) and an SDK coming shortly. and oh yeah, it will also provide added support for all those fitbit, fuel bands, pebble etc.
He specifically said "wearable thing" you can't wear software unless it's within a piece of hardware.
deleted, i mispoke.
They won't call it that.
No such thing as an iWatch or iTime.
It's a 2014 iPod with wrist form factor and biosensors.
that is a possibility. the iPod line has not been updated in nearly 2 years...except for minor things.
If memory serves, Gruber himself did speculate that he could definitely see the iPod product line morph into a wearable product. it's already happened with the 5th Gen iPod nano, before the silly iOS-like thing we have now. why not make it the Nano but even more nano...nano nano.
why not make it the Nano but even more nano...nano nano.
Nope.
"By the way, I have no idea whether Apple is planning wrist thing for September or October, just making a joke."
Nope.
Yeah, I didn't think there was anything of substance to the article. Just echoing back what other sites posted about. You know how the rumor sites work: someone yells "smoke!" then someone else repeats, and this repeats another dozen times or so and eventually people believe, "where there's smoke there must be fire" and then the original person who yelled "smoke!" says, "I'm just kidding."
What will it do?
You're certainly entitled your opinion on DED (and I'll admit that like almost anyone else, he does not get everything right 100% of the time), but judging by the vast majority of reactions I see to his (what I consider to be often trenchant) analyses here on AI, I'd suggest that your view amounts to a hill of beans in this forum.
I am waiting for the Gruber sycophants to explain this..... He's prone to occasional 'joking', apparently.
:rolleyes:
Ireland pointed that tweet out yesterday so I'm not sure how it's getting missed. As for Gruber's original comment nothing about the comment comes across as jokey to me.
What you have to remember is that Fandroids and Microsofties have a different meaning for the words "true" and "untrue" than normal human beings do. You saw this in the reactions to the "I'm a Mac; I'm a PC" commercials. They would come on forums like this foaming at the mouth about the "lies" in the commercials—come to find out, "lie" didn't mean "false statement" (or even Winston Churchill's "terminological inexactitude") it just meant: "Pointing out that fact hurt my delicate widdle fee-fees!"
The reaction to Dilger's home truths is the same thing. They can never point out any actual inaccuracies, they just bitch and moan about how "biased" the story was. Well, yes, the truth is often biased—to paraphrase Colbert: "The truth has a (pro-Apple) bias". I blame the modern news media, who are so frightened of being accused of bias that they'll let anybody say anything and never call them on it—it's always "He said, she said." Astronomer vs. Flat-Earther—"Shape of the Earth: Opinions differ!"
My point is that Apple wouldn't be hiring all these people if all they were launching is a Moto 360 type device. Obviously they're working on a range of wearable products. And yes I do think something will come out this fall. The most recent hires are sales/retail not engineering.
Eddy Cue wouldn't say this fall will see Apple's best pipeline in 25 years if this stuff was coming out in 2015. If all we get this fall is a bigger iPhone (which we should have had 2 years ago) and iPads with Touch ID the stock will get hammered. The stock is where it is right now because people are expecting new product categories (hardware or software/services) this fall, not next year. Don't forget Tim Cook said last year that we'd see new products "across 2014". So far the only new things people can buy are minor spec bumps to existing products.