Calling them products and not businesses makes more sense IMO. But still it's a lot of different products generating a lot revenue for Microsoft. And outside of Xbox, Bing (I'm assuming Bing is part of advertising on her list) and Surface I would bet the rest of her list contributes to Microsoft's bottom line (I know the Fortune 20 company I work for uses all of them except Dynamics).
Isn't Bing losing money? Isn't the xbox breaking even? I rather have a small group of products making profit than a large group of items not making me money.
Take out Windows and Office, what's the profit for everything else.
Yes, but not Cue. Rogifan's claim is that the additional inclusion of 25 years instead of the open statement that assumes "ever" somehow means new product category.
Yes, but not Cue. Rogifan's claim is that the additional inclusion of 25 years instead of the open statement that assumes "ever" somehow means new product category.
And I'm sticking by that assertion. If I'm wrong I will have no problem admitting it.
And I'm sticking by that assertion. If I'm wrong I will have no problem admitting it.
You are wrong because that inclusion of duration in no way refers to a product category, but now you're even more wrong for thinking that if there is a new product category announced this year — which I believe there will be — that it somehow validates your foolish comment. It's as foolish as me saying I just did post number 145 on Apple Insider thread 181756 which means there will be a product category announced this year. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.
Isn't Bing losing money? Isn't the xbox breaking even? I rather have a small group of products making profit than a large group of items not making me money.
Take out Windows and Office, what's the profit for everything else.
I don't know as. Microsoft doesn't report that way but I'm going to take a guess that things like Azure, SQL Server, Visual Studio, etc. are making Microsoft money. This isn't Amazon we're talking about here. Also I think Apple can (and will) add new revenue streams that are profitable. 9to5Mac says Apple is working on 1st party hardware for HomeKit. I have no doubt we will see the same with HealthKit. And with all the customers with credit cards on file (more than Amazon) I think we a mobile payments system of some sort within the next couple years. And let's not forget about whatever grand plan Apple has for ATV. Cook has said on Apple earnings calls that the company has no problem coming up with areas they want to get into. 3-5 years from now I'll bet Apple is much less dependent on iPhone for revenue and earnings growth.
You are wrong because that inclusion of duration in no way refers to a product category, but now you're even more wrong for thinking that if there is a new product category announced this year — which I believe there will be — that it somehow validates your foolish comment. It's as foolish as me saying I just did post number 145 on Apple Insider thread 181756 which means there will be a product category announced this year. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.
There's no way you can say whether I'm wrong or not because you have no idea why Cue made that comment in that specific way. Obviously, there's no way for me to prove that his specific comment at the re/code conference was in reference to a new category but there's no way for you to prove it wasn't. Apple executives are very careful with what they say. We know Apple has lots of irons in the fire and I happen to believe we're going to see some of that new stuff this fall. If you think my comments are foolish then a lot of people are foolish in your eyes because I'm certainly not the only expecting something brand new this year based on comments from Cook and others. Below is just a small list of websites that ran stories on Cue's comment. Would they do that if they thought it was just a boilerplate comment referring to better iPhones and iPads? There is nothing newsworthy about that as every new iPhone and iPad is better than the one that came before.
There's no way you can say whether I'm wrong or not because you have no idea why Cue made that comment in that specific way.
You're wrong again. There is no comment about a new product category in the quote you posted so you're wrong to say it specifically refers to a new product category. It's that simple.
Ireland pointed that tweet out yesterday so I'm not sure how it's getting missed. As for Gruber's original comment nothing about the comment comes across as jokey to me.
I don't see that anyone has actually pointed out Gruber's clarification to his clarification:
"The joke is Apple event happening before Moto 270 even ships. Apple wearable imminent: no joke."
He thinks there's a wrist thing shipping, he just doesn't know when.
Of course, Ireland choice to post the link without actually doing anything to make his comment relevant so it was easily missed by this common lazy and/or douchebaggy forum posting tactic.
I read the post minutes after it was posted abs absolutely understood that he wasn't serious. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to have their head checked. I can't believe this no-news has been reposted everywhere.
Originally Posted by snoissea
My point is that Gruber is such an Apple sycophant that he makes ridiculously biased statements when it concerns Apple's competition. If Apple put a literal piece of crap on a wristband, Gruber would write a five thousand word post in defense of it.
I find it quite ironic you made this comment on Apple Insider. You basically just described Daniel Eran Dilger.
So unnecessary. This kind of snotty, cheap insult is maybe why we don't have any more weekend think pieces from DED. Also I find it quite ironic that YOU made this comment on Apple Insider, since you are a sycophant of your own persona here. You basically just exemplify a fan of oneself, a narcissist, a Rogifan.
Of course, Ireland choice to post the link without actually doing anything to make his comment relevant so it was easily missed by this common lazy and/or douchebaggy forum posting tactic.
I did see his post, I just thought he was referring to the second tweet from Gruber, where he said he had just been joking. I didn't realize he was referring to the third, where Gruber then said he was only joking about the timing, but Apple is indeed creating a wearable device. Especially since it looks, based on the timing, that he posted that link before Gruber even made the third tweet. It doesn't help that AppleInsider didn't update the article to reflect that third tweet.
I did see his post, I just thought he was referring to the second tweet from Gruber, where he said he had just been joking. I didn't realize he was referring to the third, where Gruber then said he was only joking about the timing, but Apple is indeed creating a wearable device. Especially since it looks, based on the timing, that he posted that link before Gruber even made the third tweet. It doesn't help that AppleInsider didn't update the article to reflect that third tweet.
After a story generates the needed page views, what do they care?
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Isn't Bing losing money? Isn't the xbox breaking even? I rather have a small group of products making profit than a large group of items not making me money.
Take out Windows and Office, what's the profit for everything else.
Somebody's confusing a "product pipeline" for a "new product category pipeline."
Cook apparently did say “product category”.
Yes, but not Cue. Rogifan's claim is that the additional inclusion of 25 years instead of the open statement that assumes "ever" somehow means new product category.
You are wrong because that inclusion of duration in no way refers to a product category, but now you're even more wrong for thinking that if there is a new product category announced this year — which I believe there will be — that it somehow validates your foolish comment. It's as foolish as me saying I just did post number 145 on Apple Insider thread 181756 which means there will be a product category announced this year. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc.
There's no way you can say whether I'm wrong or not because you have no idea why Cue made that comment in that specific way. Obviously, there's no way for me to prove that his specific comment at the re/code conference was in reference to a new category but there's no way for you to prove it wasn't. Apple executives are very careful with what they say. We know Apple has lots of irons in the fire and I happen to believe we're going to see some of that new stuff this fall. If you think my comments are foolish then a lot of people are foolish in your eyes because I'm certainly not the only expecting something brand new this year based on comments from Cook and others. Below is just a small list of websites that ran stories on Cue's comment. Would they do that if they thought it was just a boilerplate comment referring to better iPhones and iPads? There is nothing newsworthy about that as every new iPhone and iPad is better than the one that came before.
http://www.theverge.com/2014/5/29/5759262/apples-cue-weve-got-the-best-product-pipeline-in-25-years
http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/05/29/apples-eddy-cue-touts-best-product-pipeline-in-25-years/
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2014/05/29/apples-new-product-line-best-25-years-according-exec-eddy-cue/
http://mashable.com/2014/05/29/apple-upcoming-products-best-in-25-years/
http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2014/05/29/apples-product-lineup-the-best-in-25-years-says-executive-eddy-cue/
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101712700
http://bgr.com/2014/05/29/2014-apple-iphone-ipad-mac/
http://www.businessinsider.com/apple-new-product-lineup-2014-5
http://www.geekwire.com/2014/apple-exec-says-upcoming-products-best-25-years/
http://www.techrepublic.com/article/upcoming-apple-products-are-the-best-yet/
http://www.cnet.com/news/apple-has-its-best-product-lineup-in-25-years-says-itunes-head-cue/
http://www.zdnet.com/itunes-boss-cue-apple-has-best-product-pipeline-in-25-years-but-wont-tell-whats-coming-next-7000029989/
You're wrong again. There is no comment about a new product category in the quote you posted so you're wrong to say it specifically refers to a new product category. It's that simple.
Ireland pointed that tweet out yesterday so I'm not sure how it's getting missed. As for Gruber's original comment nothing about the comment comes across as jokey to me.
I don't see that anyone has actually pointed out Gruber's clarification to his clarification:
"The joke is Apple event happening before Moto 270 even ships. Apple wearable imminent: no joke."
He thinks there's a wrist thing shipping, he just doesn't know when.
As previously noted, Ireland did so earlier in the thread.
Of course, Ireland choice to post the link without actually doing anything to make his comment relevant so it was easily missed by this common lazy and/or douchebaggy forum posting tactic.
So unnecessary. This kind of snotty, cheap insult is maybe why we don't have any more weekend think pieces from DED. Also I find it quite ironic that YOU made this comment on Apple Insider, since you are a sycophant of your own persona here. You basically just exemplify a fan of oneself, a narcissist, a Rogifan.
As previously noted, Ireland did so earlier in the thread.
Of course, Ireland choice to post the link without actually doing anything to make his comment relevant so it was easily missed by this common lazy and/or douchebaggy forum posting tactic.
I did see his post, I just thought he was referring to the second tweet from Gruber, where he said he had just been joking. I didn't realize he was referring to the third, where Gruber then said he was only joking about the timing, but Apple is indeed creating a wearable device. Especially since it looks, based on the timing, that he posted that link before Gruber even made the third tweet. It doesn't help that AppleInsider didn't update the article to reflect that third tweet.
After a story generates the needed page views, what do they care?
Seems to me that this story isn't based on an "offhand" comment, but rather an "offwrist" comment!