I'd rather the greatest designer of our age take a shot at combining design,software,services, and technology to deliver another magical user experience.
Personally, I think the “greatest designer of our age” died a few years back after the incumbent had been coat-tailing him for years. Since that time you only have to look at his efforts related to the redesign of the iOS and OSX GUI to understand where the true talent rested (white text on lime green; what was he thinking?!). It’s that attention to detail that, although can be replaced, hasn’t been replaced. The talent and innovation is still there within Apple, and the rumoured and announced products look fantastic; but the presentation is getting a little fury around the edges. From an external design perspective, Ive’s big test will be the iPhone 6; his first solo design (and the iWatch?). If the “leaked” images are to be believed, I’m not overly impressed with the design. The back looks ugly.
<span style="letter-spacing:0px;">Personally, I think the “greatest designer of our age” died a few years back after the incumbent had been coat-tailing him for years. Since that time you only have to look at his efforts related to the redesign of the iOS and OSX GUI to understand where the true talent rested (white text on lime green; what was he thinking?!). It’s that attention to detail that, although can be replaced, hasn’t been replaced. The talent and innovation is still there within Apple, and the rumoured and announced products look fantastic; but the presentation is getting a little fury around the edges. From an external design perspective, Ive’s big test will be the iPhone 6; his first solo design (and the iWatch?). If the “leaked” images are to be believed, I’m not overly impressed with the design. The back looks ugly.</span>
How do we know iPhone 6 is Apple's first design with no input from Steve? iPhone 4, released in 2010, was based on a prototype called 'purple' from August of 2005. Also we have no idea if these iPhone 6 leaks are legit and if they are if it's a final design. There is no way to judge until the final product is announced. I remember a lot of people hated the iPhone 5 design when the leaks first showed up but then when the phone was released and they got their hands on one they thought it was beautiful. As far as software goes...I'll take anything in iOS 7 OSX Yosemite over this:
"It looks like Motorola's designers tried to draw as much attention as they could to the 360's stupid flat-tire display shape."
Motorola's "stupid flat-tire display shape" is only the shape almost EVERY WATCH EVER MADE has had.
Gruber is an idiot. No, Gruber is a retard and an idiot.
Apart from the black bar across the bottom of the circular face, which is not apparent on any of the watches I own and which gives the 360 face a "flat tyre" look.
Apart from the black bar across the bottom of the circular face, which is not apparent on any of the watches I own and which gives the 360 face a "flat tyre" look.
I'd like to see even one other watch that has used a flat tyre look.
I'd be curious to know which items on thar list (besides maybe Xbox you think aren't profitable)? Right now there are only two businesses Microsoft publicly admits are in the red - Bing and the Nokia business they bought - though on the last earnings call Nadella said both would be profitable by 2016.
Again, you're wrong. Apple execs say this every year and will continue saying it, and since incremental update is an improvement in some fashion they aren't ever going to be proven wrong.
No you're not. You're trying to shoehorn something you invented in your head into some scientific proof like you're the inventor of phrenology. If it was just about your opinion you wouldn't be writing the things you're writing.
Provide me a quote where Cook or any other executive said upcoming products were the best in 25 years?
And yeah I think we will see a new product category this fall. And I think some of the statements from Cook and others signal it. I don't see what's so shocking about that. Earlier this year on one of Apple's earnings calls Cook said Apple was "closer than it’s ever been" to announcing a new product category. IMO Cook would not be dangling these carrots in front of Wall Street if new stuff was a year or two away. I'm sure the last thing he wants is another downward slide in the stock and the Apple is doomed meme front and center again. Not after WWDC created so much positive sentiment around Apple.
Here's the list according to Mary Jo Foley. She speculates the 16th could be Android patent licensing. I guess one could argue over whether these should be called businesses or not. You could swap out businesses with products.
Windows (which also, up until now, included Surface, which contributed $853 million to the total in fiscal 2013)
Windows Server
Windows Azure
Office (client)
Xbox
SQL Server
System Center (client and server both, so includes Windows Intune)
SharePoint
Visual Studio
Dynamics (CRM and ERP)
Online Advertising (search and display both)
Office 365
Client-access license (CAL) suites (formerly known as desktop access)
Enterprise Services (including consulting)
Enterprise communication business (Exchange plus Lync)
Wait, she's counting Surface, splitting Windows and Office into multiple groups?
Wait, she's counting Surface, splitting Windows and Office into multiple groups?
Calling them products and not businesses makes more sense IMO. But still it's a lot of different products generating a lot revenue for Microsoft. And outside of Xbox, Bing (I'm assuming Bing is part of advertising on her list) and Surface I would bet the rest of her list contributes to Microsoft's bottom line (I know the Fortune 20 company I work for uses all of them except Dynamics).
Sometimes he seems bored during MacBreak Weekly too. But at least he hasn't gone on a "when is Apple going to innovate again" rant for a while.
What I want to know is when Apple will STOP innovating?
This constant innovation in software and hardware is getting b o r i n g !
Yep. As the resident trolls on this site would say: their constant innovation is getting staid, tired and boring. They're leading by innovating; why don't they give others a chance?
I personally consider Gruber to be quite a talented wordsmith. He's written a few times that he strives to be the minimalist and perfectionist similar to the company he writes about.
DED on the other hand is a writer more in the Steven King style, afflicted with Diarrhea-of-the-Typewriter Syndrome.
Both bake their literary cookies with the same base ingredients i.e. logic... however one decides that a simple flourish of chocolate chips will be enough of a nuance; the other drops in chocolate chips, M&Ms, colored sprinkles, macadamia nuts and anything else he pulls from the cupboard... than goes on tangents to try and justify that each addition adds flavor and substance to his argument. One is disciplined and trained in taste gourmet, the other is, well... "I do what I want and if ya don't like it, F*** Off... and I'll tell that to your face via my other self".
I'm backing Gruber on this one and it surely wasn't a mistake. He's looking to add to his "Claim Chowder".
Speaking of which, the above anology is most often described using soup as the metaphor. I happen to (unfortunately) know cookies much better. Beer, wine and spirits work too, but we are in a mixed-cultured forum here and we don't need any of that to get into a good ol' fashioned beer brawl here, do we? :smokey:
What I love about DED is that he focuses on both the detail and the big picture in an entertaining and informative manner.
My point is, arsehole, that Apple wouldn't be hiring all these people if all they were launching is a Moto 360 type device. Obviously they're working on a range of wearable products. And yes I do think something will come out this fall. The most recent hires are sales/retail not engineering.
Eddy Cue wouldn't say this fall will see Apple's best pipeline in 25 years if this stuff was coming out in 2015. If all we get this fall is a bigger iPhone (which we should have had 2 years ago) and iPads with Touch ID the stock will get hammered. The stock is where it is right now because people are expecting new product categories (hardware or software/services) this fall, not next year. Don't forget Tim Cook said last year that we'd see new products "across 2014". So far the only new things people can buy are minor spec bumps to existing products.
1) Stop with the personal attacks.
2) New products ? new product categories. Why is that so hard to understand?
3) If the stock gets hammers big fucking deal. I don't want a company that only cares about the stock price from quarter to quarter without concern for longterm success.
[@]PhilBoogie[/@], the use of serial port was for loop detectors, which are placed in the cement and used to measure when vehicles go over it. There is a USB-to-VGA adapter the company also sends out incase the WinPC doesn't have a serial port, but they usually do and it's less configuration and drivers to not have to use that adapter. It's just one of those things with dealing with Windows. If the legacy support will be there there is little reason for most companies to ever update their systems.
Calling them products and not businesses makes more sense IMO. But still it's a lot of different products generating a lot revenue for Microsoft. And outside of Xbox, Bing (I'm assuming Bing is part of advertising on her list) and Surface I would bet the rest of her list contributes to Microsoft's bottom line (I know the Fortune 20 company I work for uses all of them except Dynamics).
Isn't Bing losing money? Isn't the xbox breaking even? I rather have a small group of products making profit than a large group of items not making me money.
Take out Windows and Office, what's the profit for everything else.
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I'd rather the greatest designer of our age take a shot at combining design,software,services, and technology to deliver another magical user experience.
Personally, I think the “greatest designer of our age” died a few years back after the incumbent had been coat-tailing him for years. Since that time you only have to look at his efforts related to the redesign of the iOS and OSX GUI to understand where the true talent rested (white text on lime green; what was he thinking?!). It’s that attention to detail that, although can be replaced, hasn’t been replaced. The talent and innovation is still there within Apple, and the rumoured and announced products look fantastic; but the presentation is getting a little fury around the edges. From an external design perspective, Ive’s big test will be the iPhone 6; his first solo design (and the iWatch?). If the “leaked” images are to be believed, I’m not overly impressed with the design. The back looks ugly.
How so?
You're referring to those larger dividing lines across the back? There could be a functional reason for them to exist.
Apart from the black bar across the bottom of the circular face, which is not apparent on any of the watches I own and which gives the 360 face a "flat tyre" look.
I'd like to see even one other watch that has used a flat tyre look.
Year to date net income for Microsoft is $22 billion. Source: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=MSFT&annual
I'd be curious to know which items on thar list (besides maybe Xbox you think aren't profitable)? Right now there are only two businesses Microsoft publicly admits are in the red - Bing and the Nokia business they bought - though on the last earnings call Nadella said both would be profitable by 2016.
Provide me a quote where Cook or any other executive said upcoming products were the best in 25 years?
And yeah I think we will see a new product category this fall. And I think some of the statements from Cook and others signal it. I don't see what's so shocking about that. Earlier this year on one of Apple's earnings calls Cook said Apple was "closer than it’s ever been" to announcing a new product category. IMO Cook would not be dangling these carrots in front of Wall Street if new stuff was a year or two away. I'm sure the last thing he wants is another downward slide in the stock and the Apple is doomed meme front and center again. Not after WWDC created so much positive sentiment around Apple.
Sure thing.
Wait, she's counting Surface, splitting Windows and Office into multiple groups?
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IT WOULD BE SO WORTH IT.
They do say it every year.
Yep. As the resident trolls on this site would say: their constant innovation is getting staid, tired and boring. They're leading by innovating; why don't they give others a chance?
What I love about DED is that he focuses on both the detail and the big picture in an entertaining and informative manner.
Don't forget the optical drive!
Well said.
Isn't Bing losing money? Isn't the xbox breaking even? I rather have a small group of products making profit than a large group of items not making me money.
Take out Windows and Office, what's the profit for everything else.