Wasn't it Re/code insisting just several days ago that both the iPhone and a wearable WOULD be revealed on the 9th?
That's been the general word for some time now. Maybe not the 9th specifically but perhaps announcing it early with no actual product available until very late 2014 or early 2015. FWIW Kuo has been saying as much for quite awhile, with Paczkowski now joining him.
Wasn't it Re/code insisting just several days ago that both the iPhone and a wearable WOULD be revealed on the 9th?
They are still saying the same thing. It will be revealed. Why anyone would think apple would release a device that depends on apps a week after it's revealed is beyond me. Let developers have fun with it, this isn't a windows phone after all
So Apple's getting in the game of vaporwear? It seems odd that they would announce something in the fall but not have it available to ship for the holidays. If it's not ready why announce it now? Unless Apple is that worried about it leaking? Or are they getting in the business of showing off prototypes so Cook can say to Wall Street "see we are innovating"? I'd love to call this rumor bunk, but the source is usually very accurate.
Besides time for regulatory approvals, the interim would allow developers time to create or modify apps for the new device.
Wasn't it Re/code insisting just several days ago that both the iPhone and a wearable WOULD be revealed on the 9th?
I guess they could be announcing it early to give developers lead time for apps and to prevent FCC leaks? I just hope if they do announce something there really is something to show and even demo; not vaporware.
It kind of makes me wonder though if this device really isn't ready for primetime. Otherwise wouldn't it have made more sense to announce it at WWDC (where the developers are) with availability for sale this holiday season?
I agree, but ... people are waiting anyway. Basically the current market for smart watches is currently non-existent, so I find it unlikely that Apple will demo a non-quite-ready watch on the 9th. If the rumor of not being ready to ship them until next year is correct, Apple is at least likely to demo a feature-complete, ready-to-be-mass-produced prototype. Right? There is no way Apple is going to just going to waive their hands around and announced "we've just about finished the long awaited watch, here's what it will do!" so that everyone else can copy it before it's even on the market.
I think it'll have similar features as what the other smart watches claim now. But just like everything Apple does- it will be easier and do it better. We're 7 years into iPhones and the others still can't get it right. I'm not worried about them copying- it'll be more like "Ours already does all that"- but no one will buy the others.
So Apple's getting in the game of vaporwear? It seems odd that they would announce something in the fall but not have it available to ship for the holidays. If it's not ready why announce it now? Unless Apple is that worried about it leaking? Or are they getting in the business of showing off prototypes so Cook can say to Wall Street "see we are innovating"? I'd love to call this rumor bunk, but the source is usually very accurate.
I think it's a chicken/egg thing. Parts will leak soon as production begins and Apple is managing expectations. Would be surprised if it doesn't ship by Thanksgiving.
The might have to do this to get developer buy in. In particular this kind of functionality will need devs, and therefore I believe there will be a limited release to people who are devs.
Here's an idea. Introduce it at the Sept 9th event. Tell the world the approximate date it will ship. Tell the world that Apple will preview it in stores for a two, or maybe three, week period beginning on the date the new iPhones go on sale in Apple stores. Tell the world that those who purchase a new iPhone (any new iPhone) at an Apple store will be able to make a pre-order reservation for the iWatch. Having it in stores for a limited-time preview will draw more people into Apple stores for their iPhone upgrade, providing an opportunity for Apple to sell more iPhone accessories and AppleCare warranties and to cross-sell more other Apple products versus having more people go to their carrier for an upgrade. Offering iPhone buyers the ability to reserve a pre-order spot would allow Apple to refine their estimates of demand which would allow them to adjust the actual release date to ensure adequate supplies on hand to meet that demand. Just dreaming...
My response, as you referenced in your final retort, was in reference to those that were calling the Moto 360 and G Watch R vaporware hence my air quotes. I clearly know what vaporware is, but people here tend to criticize other companies for a certain practice, then give Apple a pass for doing the exact same thing.
My response, as you referenced in your final retort, was in reference to those that were calling the Moto 360 and G Watch R vaporware hence my air quotes. I clearly know what vaporware is, but people here tend to criticize other companies for a certain practice, then give Apple a pass for doing the exact same thing.
Because those other companies are known for and prone to it. Apple isn't.
The reason why they're announcing this early is to give developers a few months head start on doing apps. They'll probably release the SDK on the 9th along with the iWatch announcement. Same thing was done with the iPad.
The reason why they're announcing this early is to give developers a few months head start on doing apps. They'll probably release the SDK on the 9th along with the iWatch announcement. Same thing was done with the iPad.
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Wasn't it Re/code insisting just several days ago that both the iPhone and a wearable WOULD be revealed on the 9th?
Revealed, yes but that doesn't necessarily mean going on sale soon, with the exception probably being the 4.7" iPhone
That's been the general word for some time now. Maybe not the 9th specifically but perhaps announcing it early with no actual product available until very late 2014 or early 2015. FWIW Kuo has been saying as much for quite awhile, with Paczkowski now joining him.
They are still saying the same thing. It will be revealed. Why anyone would think apple would release a device that depends on apps a week after it's revealed is beyond me. Let developers have fun with it, this isn't a windows phone after all
So Apple's getting in the game of vaporwear? It seems odd that they would announce something in the fall but not have it available to ship for the holidays. If it's not ready why announce it now? Unless Apple is that worried about it leaking? Or are they getting in the business of showing off prototypes so Cook can say to Wall Street "see we are innovating"? I'd love to call this rumor bunk, but the source is usually very accurate.
Besides time for regulatory approvals, the interim would allow developers time to create or modify apps for the new device.
It kind of makes me wonder though if this device really isn't ready for primetime. Otherwise wouldn't it have made more sense to announce it at WWDC (where the developers are) with availability for sale this holiday season?
I agree, but ... people are waiting anyway. Basically the current market for smart watches is currently non-existent, so I find it unlikely that Apple will demo a non-quite-ready watch on the 9th. If the rumor of not being ready to ship them until next year is correct, Apple is at least likely to demo a feature-complete, ready-to-be-mass-produced prototype. Right? There is no way Apple is going to just going to waive their hands around and announced "we've just about finished the long awaited watch, here's what it will do!" so that everyone else can copy it before it's even on the market.
I think it'll have similar features as what the other smart watches claim now. But just like everything Apple does- it will be easier and do it better. We're 7 years into iPhones and the others still can't get it right. I'm not worried about them copying- it'll be more like "Ours already does all that"- but no one will buy the others.
So Apple's getting in the game of vaporwear? It seems odd that they would announce something in the fall but not have it available to ship for the holidays. If it's not ready why announce it now? Unless Apple is that worried about it leaking? Or are they getting in the business of showing off prototypes so Cook can say to Wall Street "see we are innovating"? I'd love to call this rumor bunk, but the source is usually very accurate.
I think it's a chicken/egg thing. Parts will leak soon as production begins and Apple is managing expectations. Would be surprised if it doesn't ship by Thanksgiving.
Neither of you knows what vaporware is.
So is the watch. It’s exactly the same.
It’s Apple. There are always demo models.
As long as the thing ships expediently, they were wrong.
I am so tired of seeing that same mannequin hand illustration.
Your words are our voice.
Why are the delusions of a madman (aka, analysts) considered breaking? You know what's breaking? Appleinsider's journalistic integrity.
Here's an idea. Introduce it at the Sept 9th event. Tell the world the approximate date it will ship. Tell the world that Apple will preview it in stores for a two, or maybe three, week period beginning on the date the new iPhones go on sale in Apple stores. Tell the world that those who purchase a new iPhone (any new iPhone) at an Apple store will be able to make a pre-order reservation for the iWatch. Having it in stores for a limited-time preview will draw more people into Apple stores for their iPhone upgrade, providing an opportunity for Apple to sell more iPhone accessories and AppleCare warranties and to cross-sell more other Apple products versus having more people go to their carrier for an upgrade. Offering iPhone buyers the ability to reserve a pre-order spot would allow Apple to refine their estimates of demand which would allow them to adjust the actual release date to ensure adequate supplies on hand to meet that demand. Just dreaming...
My response, as you referenced in your final retort, was in reference to those that were calling the Moto 360 and G Watch R vaporware hence my air quotes. I clearly know what vaporware is, but people here tend to criticize other companies for a certain practice, then give Apple a pass for doing the exact same thing.
My response, as you referenced in your final retort, was in reference to those that were calling the Moto 360 and G Watch R vaporware hence my air quotes. I clearly know what vaporware is, but people here tend to criticize other companies for a certain practice, then give Apple a pass for doing the exact same thing.
Because those other companies are known for and prone to it. Apple isn't.
Would be surprised if it doesn't ship by Thanksgiving.
So, shipping by Monday, October 13 then?
The reason why they're announcing this early is to give developers a few months head start on doing apps. They'll probably release the SDK on the 9th along with the iWatch announcement. Same thing was done with the iPad.
Succinctly said.
What vaporware has Motorola or LG recently shown?
BREAKING: No one freaking knows!