Well Apple did cave to the Asian market fetish for big phablets.
I agree, Apple shouldn't have done this. I'm disappointed. Clearly Tim is not Steve. Few of my crapdroid owner friends are overjoyed though. They are now ordering Iphones coz it looks like Android.
If you want a good laugh, google Samsung Alpha phone. Their newest phone is the iPhone 4! You'd think after all those lawsuits for copying, they'd be more careful. But maybe now that the iPhone 6 is here they think Apple won't care so much if clone old designs. Such hypocrites.
As I watched the Patriots demolish the Vikings Sunday, I was bombarded with Samsung commercials that attempted to poke fun at the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus. I got really irritated and wanted Apple to show a commercial of its own. Thankfully, Tim Cook and company have more level heads than I had yesterday!
The news about the 4 million iPhone 6/Plus pre-orders AND the HealthKit initiatives being kicked off at Duke and Stanford to support iPhone 6/Plus and iOS 8 reminded me that staying focused when competitors are slinging mud is the way Apple has won the sales and profits in the mobile computing space with iPods, iPhones and tablets (and soon watches). This is the way to fight!!
Let's face it. Apple caved into both phablets [I]and[/I] netbooks [I]and[/I] a one-button mouse. There's no denying it. They just happened to make them better.
Honestly, I don't know why Samsung even tries with these ads. I really think they make ads so Samsung employees and fanboys feel better. I doubt they have any real market impact. Just advertise your product and stop trying to "compete" with Apple's brand. I swear, these people don't learn. Microshaft tried the same thing with Zune. Now they're doing it with Surface. They run these ads disparaging and mocking Apple's products. All it seems to do is make Apple even more popular. If these companies would focus on making great products and marketing them as great products, they'd be better off. Heck, run a side by side comparison...that's fine. But really..these "clever" ads are just silly and petty. I personally love watching hipster marketing executives try to out-Apple Apple.
I am an Apple fan to the core but do not understand what appears to a lackluster new iPhone. Yes, I will order an iPhone 6. However I don't get why it isn't at least water resistant by now, or have a higher megapixel camera. The iOS experience is beyond compare and I think ApplePay will revolutionize NFC. I also want an Apple Watch to my surprise and delight. I just think there are some serious spec where Apple is lagging. An Apple phone IMO should blow every other phone out of the water in specs. I may be a minority but I don't actually want a bigger screen. I am buying for the NFC and after processing.
When in the history of the iPhone was it ever about specs?
I agree, Apple shouldn't have done this. I'm disappointed. Clearly Tim is not Steve. Few of my crapdroid owner friends are overjoyed though. They are now ordering Iphones coz it looks like Android.
Please...if Steve had his way, iTunes and iPod would have been Mac only.
If the majority of Asian smartphone buyers (allegedly) like large phones, then why shouldn't Apple go after them? It's not like they just expanded the size.
The best response from Apple to these ads? Nothing directly. Just play up the advantage of Apple Pay, Apple Watch, Continuity, all four iPhone product lines, or even brag about the sales figures from the first weekend (doubtful, but the most direct response).
Which is exactly what they are going to do.
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I find the anti-Apple commercials pretty lame, but sorry, Android-haters, the Note phone itself is a great product.
They are decent phones, which is part of the reason why they have sold as well as they have. A lot of the bashing is because the ads look like a desperation move.
To be fair, Steve Jobs did make the monumental mistake of not seeing the value of making a larger iPhone and resisted even discussing it. Samsung seized on the opportunity to take business from Apple all these years. To Tim Cook's credit, he has the courage to admit the mistake and change course. And now Samsung is running scare because Apple is taking away the only space they have to compete. The vulgar ads only affirm Samsung's fear and panic. In the end, add are just adds, consumers vote with their money - iPhone 6 Plus sold out! History will prove that it's not the larger size that will dismantle Samsung, it's Apple Pay. Apple is the only company in this planet that has the vertical know-hows to make mobile payment a reality, not Samsung, not Google, not eBay, not Amazon.
Wait!? What!? I was agreeing with your point til you came to Apple Pay. Apple Pay will not dismantle Samsung as you say. Apple did not make mobile payments a reality as it has been happening across the world already and is expanding rapidly without Apple. Apple will make it popular and more mainstream in the US only but everyone else will be able to use NFC payments as well no matter what the phone.
I agree, Apple shouldn't have done this. I'm disappointed. Clearly Tim is not Steve. Few of my crapdroid owner friends are overjoyed though. They are now ordering Iphones coz it looks like Android.
I don't agree. The Asian markets--particularly China--are where smartphone growth is at. It was a shrewd move on Tim's part. While the phablet craze does not suit my tastes or needs, I believe that by caving to the Asian market, Apple is eliminating the biggest and most obvious criticism of the iPhone from that market: screen size.
This is business. Look at Buick, a shitty brand that sells rebadged Chevys, but when GM went bankrupt and closed down Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn and Hummer, they kept the Buick brand because the Chinese love Buicks for cultural/historic reasons.
This is going to happen more and more, so get used to it.
Hi guys I am new to this forum so please be gentle lol. Before I begin let me say that I do not work or have ever been employed by Apple or Samsung; so my opinion is just that my opinion. I have read every comment on this thread and some of you guys seem to be missing the point of what Samsung is trying to do and that is sell phones. I don't believe Samsung is as scared as many here want to think. It seems that the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus or severely delayed. Now I don't know if this is because Apple is trying to create a bigger demand for the phone by only releasing a certain number of devices at launch or if Apple is 100% backordered on the iPhone 6. I really hope it is the latter and not the former in this case.
Once Samsung got wind that the iPhone 6's were out of stock, I'm sure Samsung were licking their chops. It's like someone throwing you a 60 mile an hour fast ball over home plate, you're going to try to knock it out the park lol. Samsung see's this as their moment to push the Note 4, and keep in mind these iPhone 6 delays are going to push people to the Note 4 or any other device out there that is available NOW. Say what you want about Samsung but they are smart. They let Apple release their phones first and set a price on the iPhone 6 and now they are coming to undercut them. "IPhone 6 is delayed and is inferior to our product that is cheaper, has more features, better specs, and is available now" that is Samsung's message in these commercials. Most companies would make these same commercials that Samsung put out over the weekend against the iPhone. I want to drive this point across that it is business people. This is what a company is suppose to do and I don't blame them one bit.
Again I own no share or stocks in either company, I'm just analyzing all of this as an outsider. I like Apple and I like Samsung both for different reasons. I really hope Apple does make a response commercial and goes at Samsung, that way both companies are under intense pressure. Even if you don't agree with my logic or way of thinking at least let's agree that competition is good for the consumer (me and you). Sammy would not have to put super amoled displays in their devices if it were not for the iPhone, and Apple would not have to make bigger devices if it were not for the Samsung Note and other big phablet phones on the market. In the end the customer wins, even if you're an Apple loyalist, Android fanatic, or someone like me that uses both iOS and Android and just loves technology no matter who makes it. So with that being said I don't get why you would want Samsung to tank or go under or Apple to tank or go under when that is only welcoming status quo?
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This ad is Samsung's corporate equivalent of its paid trolls going to message boards and posting "First!!111eleventy111!!!"
Well Apple did cave to the Asian market fetish for big phablets.
I agree, Apple shouldn't have done this. I'm disappointed. Clearly Tim is not Steve. Few of my crapdroid owner friends are overjoyed though. They are now ordering Iphones coz it looks like Android.
No.
Let me know how that approach works out for you.
As I watched the Patriots demolish the Vikings Sunday, I was bombarded with Samsung commercials that attempted to poke fun at the iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus. I got really irritated and wanted Apple to show a commercial of its own. Thankfully, Tim Cook and company have more level heads than I had yesterday!
The news about the 4 million iPhone 6/Plus pre-orders AND the HealthKit initiatives being kicked off at Duke and Stanford to support iPhone 6/Plus and iOS 8 reminded me that staying focused when competitors are slinging mud is the way Apple has won the sales and profits in the mobile computing space with iPods, iPhones and tablets (and soon watches). This is the way to fight!!
Congratulations, Apple!
They just happened to make them better.
Honestly, I don't know why Samsung even tries with these ads. I really think they make ads so Samsung employees and fanboys feel better. I doubt they have any real market impact. Just advertise your product and stop trying to "compete" with Apple's brand. I swear, these people don't learn. Microshaft tried the same thing with Zune. Now they're doing it with Surface. They run these ads disparaging and mocking Apple's products. All it seems to do is make Apple even more popular. If these companies would focus on making great products and marketing them as great products, they'd be better off. Heck, run a side by side comparison...that's fine. But really..these "clever" ads are just silly and petty. I personally love watching hipster marketing executives try to out-Apple Apple.
iPhone 6 is available this week, September 19th.
The commercial ends by noting the Galaxy Note 4 -- "The Next Big Thing is Here" -- comes out in October.
So once again, Samsung is in the lead... by following.
When in the history of the iPhone was it ever about specs?
Please...if Steve had his way, iTunes and iPod would have been Mac only.
If the majority of Asian smartphone buyers (allegedly) like large phones, then why shouldn't Apple go after them? It's not like they just expanded the size.
The best response from Apple to these ads? Nothing directly. Just play up the advantage of Apple Pay, Apple Watch, Continuity, all four iPhone product lines, or even brag about the sales figures from the first weekend (doubtful, but the most direct response).
Which is exactly what they are going to do.
I find the anti-Apple commercials pretty lame, but sorry, Android-haters, the Note phone itself is a great product.
They are decent phones, which is part of the reason why they have sold as well as they have. A lot of the bashing is because the ads look like a desperation move.
Every year a new one is released?
Wait!? What!? I was agreeing with your point til you came to Apple Pay. Apple Pay will not dismantle Samsung as you say. Apple did not make mobile payments a reality as it has been happening across the world already and is expanding rapidly without Apple. Apple will make it popular and more mainstream in the US only but everyone else will be able to use NFC payments as well no matter what the phone.
I don't agree. The Asian markets--particularly China--are where smartphone growth is at. It was a shrewd move on Tim's part. While the phablet craze does not suit my tastes or needs, I believe that by caving to the Asian market, Apple is eliminating the biggest and most obvious criticism of the iPhone from that market: screen size.
This is business. Look at Buick, a shitty brand that sells rebadged Chevys, but when GM went bankrupt and closed down Oldsmobile, Pontiac, Saturn and Hummer, they kept the Buick brand because the Chinese love Buicks for cultural/historic reasons.
This is going to happen more and more, so get used to it.
Bigger than bigger.
No, never.
Would they have made a big screen phone if that spec didn't matter?
It's about user experience, which is why Apple didn't add NFC to their spec sheet 5 years ago.
Once Samsung got wind that the iPhone 6's were out of stock, I'm sure Samsung were licking their chops. It's like someone throwing you a 60 mile an hour fast ball over home plate, you're going to try to knock it out the park lol. Samsung see's this as their moment to push the Note 4, and keep in mind these iPhone 6 delays are going to push people to the Note 4 or any other device out there that is available NOW. Say what you want about Samsung but they are smart. They let Apple release their phones first and set a price on the iPhone 6 and now they are coming to undercut them. "IPhone 6 is delayed and is inferior to our product that is cheaper, has more features, better specs, and is available now" that is Samsung's message in these commercials. Most companies would make these same commercials that Samsung put out over the weekend against the iPhone. I want to drive this point across that it is business people. This is what a company is suppose to do and I don't blame them one bit.
Again I own no share or stocks in either company, I'm just analyzing all of this as an outsider. I like Apple and I like Samsung both for different reasons. I really hope Apple does make a response commercial and goes at Samsung, that way both companies are under intense pressure. Even if you don't agree with my logic or way of thinking at least let's agree that competition is good for the consumer (me and you). Sammy would not have to put super amoled displays in their devices if it were not for the iPhone, and Apple would not have to make bigger devices if it were not for the Samsung Note and other big phablet phones on the market. In the end the customer wins, even if you're an Apple loyalist, Android fanatic, or someone like me that uses both iOS and Android and just loves technology no matter who makes it. So with that being said I don't get why you would want Samsung to tank or go under or Apple to tank or go under when that is only welcoming status quo?
Thought this was mildy amusing