...6) file management is for nerds, next you will be touting its command prompt (LOL), really most people don't give toss about the nightmare of managing a file directory...
I agree with all the rest of your points., and this one is probably true for a phone.
However, the lack of a file system is the reason I don't have an iPad. I'd be using it as a reader 99% of the time, and with the number of files I have, in four different formats, it's just impossible.
First, I would have to remember what format a particular item was in, and start that application (If there even is a DjVu reader—probably not). Then I'd have to page through hundreds of screens of blank icons to find the one I wanted.
This after putting in a week's work renaming everything to fit in a single flat file, by author's name, I suppose—and no way of separating authors with the same last name.
Yes, I know iOS8 supports file management in iCloud. Is iCloud going to store 48 GB and growing? (A lot of these are scanned PDF and DjVu, not 200 KB ePub files).
If you could ever use a Time Capsule instead of iCloud, then I'd be all over it, but till then a laptop is my only alternative.
Someone said there is now no reason not to switch to an iPhone, but there is - cost - which is a legitimate concern for people who are not on 6-7 figure incomes. I recently purchased an LG G2 for my son, it cost €350 ($453). An iP6 would have cost €800 ($1,036).
1) a working fingerprint sensor
2) better screen
3) better camera
4) simpler to use
5) better quality (thus longer life)
6) better battery usage
etc etc etc
1) Yes
2) No
3) Yet to be seen, probably no
4) Possibly
5) No
6) Big no
Someone said there is now no reason not to switch to an iPhone, but there is - cost - which is a legitimate concern for people who are not on 6-7 figure incomes. I recently purchased an LG G2 for my son, it cost €350 ($453). An iP6 would have cost €800 ($1,036).
1) Yes
2) Yes. More (pentile) pixels doesn't mean better except to spec-hound neckbeards.
3) Certainly in the top few. A much thicker phone could easily have a better camera, but then it's a camera with a built-in phone, not the reverse. And no, "More pixels!!!" does not mean better—see spec-hound neckbeards above.
4) Certainly
5) You've got to be kidding with this!
6) Big, big yes.
1) SD card cannot be used to run apps on. its storage, wtf do you think the cloud is for?
2) Android devices are simply replacement of feature phones and not used as a smartphone, especially in the U.S
3) Well if your phone needs an extra battery there must be something up with its power consumption. I have never ever seen anyone who owns a Android phone with an extra battery, The only way you can get a full days use out of an Android phone is to dim the screen to minimum and don't tell us thats not true because we know you are lying
4) Multi tasking is for the desktop , useless feature on a phone
5) I have a cable for HDMI out on my iPhone genius, not that I need it.
6) file management is for nerds, next you will be touting its command prompt (LOL), really most people don't give toss about the nightmare of managing a file directory
7) Iphone has wireless speakers too
8) no its not a better camera pixels has very little to do with it, as many professional reviews have pointed out. You really are displaying your technical ignorance now.
9) iPhone only requires 1GB of RAM because it doesn't need more , iOS is smaller and runs faster
10) Oh and its called Blackberry now , its about given up on the handset market, its now almost all a software services company
11) iOS is insane cool, easy to use, intuitive and simple to use
12) NFC only works on <10% of Android installed base, an unmitigated failure
13) oh and it is "Porsche" nor "Porshe" twit
Wow, first, I was playing devils advocate to a silly statement, there was no need to respond. Twit, twit, really, I make a small spelling mistake and you call me a twit, have you read your post, English is not my first language, heck, it's not even my third but even I could tell your response would make a 5th grader cringe, punctuation is your friend, use it and it's iPhone, not Iphone, not iphone, iPhone, see, pretty annoying isn't it, I would probably suggest you think a little next time before you go after someone because of a single spelling mistake, maybe perhaps even proof read before clicking on that submit button. By the way, you can run apps from the SD card in Android, Google it, "Android, run apps from a Mini SD Card". The file manager is still a very useful utility, especially if your data is spread across multiple cloud storage services and networked storage. In iOS even though you have say, OneDrive installed, an app like Pages still ignores it because the app itself wasn't programmed to handle that specific cloud storage provider. In Android, once the client app is installed, every single app can utilize that client, but why bother when you have a file manager that can mount every single NAS, cloud storage, FTP, etc. without the need of a bunch of clients that just take up space. So again any app that's installed on your system can save to those mounted drives as if the storage was local. I also never said the iPhone didn't have an HDMI, you're just adding in your fantasy so you can make yourself out to be some sort of self proclaimed Troll killer. The HDMI resolution in iOS is app dependent, so if your TV is 1080P and the app is only programmed to display a 4:3 display it doesn't look very nice, in Android, apps depend on the system for their resolution, so everything, including the desktop is 1080p, a more constant experience and who cares if you don't use your HDMI, is that supposed to mean that others follow in your foot steps, you're delusional. When I talked about the camera I wasn't specifically talking about MP, did you read anywhere in my post that had the word, mega-pixel in it, no, again, just jumping to conclusions because of that warped sense of self righteousness, below is an example of an Android phone that is paired with a Leica lens kit, get it now. I'm not going to bother with the rest because it's just too silly to comment, like calling me a liar before I even responded, where do people like you come from. Look, this is all just arbitrary anyway as I was just commenting to a person who said why would anyone want to still use an Android phone. I wasn't trying to put down the iPhone, say that Android is better, just stated that their are still people who prefer the platform even though their is new 5" iPhone and gave a few examples as to why. You took it as if I was saying Android was superior or something. I have an Android phone, yep, sure do, but it's a toy, just like my Windows 8 phone, I love technology so I don't bottle myself into any one specific brand, I like Pepsi and RC Cola too. So next time, please take a deep breath, calm down and think before you type, oh and please don't forget to have a great day.
...English is not my first language, heck, it's not even my third...
Your English is better than 90% of native speakers', so don't take this as criticism. I'm sure autocorrect is to blame (because you're not the only one who has it come out this way), but every single time you mean to say "definitely" (bestimmt), what actually comes out is "defiantly" (trotzig).
(Google Translate tried to "correct" me in the opposite direction when I checked to see if my 45-year-old high school German was right.)
2) Yes. More (pentile) pixels doesn't mean better except to spec-hound neckbeards.
3) Certainly in the top few. A much thicker phone could easily have a better camera, but then it's a camera with a built-in phone, not the reverse. And no, "More pixels!!!" does not mean better—see spec-hound neckbeards above.
4) Certainly
5) You've got to be kidding with this!
6) Big, big yes.
I was thinking of my son's G2 vs an iP6. The G2 has a display almost the size of a 6 Plus, at 5.2", but in a body closer to the size of the 6, and it isn't pentile. It also has an OIS 13 Mp camera that gets better results than the iP5s camera. Build quality is subjective so there is no point in arguing. In terms of battery life, the G2 trounces the 6 by a wide margin. Standby time on the G2 is 900 hours - 250 for the 6. 3G talk time on the G2 is 25:01 - 14:00 for the 6. Web browsing and video playback are also longer on the G2.
Because Apple supports no files in iOS, as you say.
No photos, no music, no video, no documents.
I think you've had one herb too many, Mr. Herbapou.
for people who used iOS I am pretty amaze by the lack of knowledge about it.
Files are all under apps folders. This results in weird behaviors, like for example, since Safari doesn't support files, you cant download anything from the web into an iOS device with the native web browser. You must used a third party app with a browser that can also handle a file structure.
To me, the bare minimum would be for Safari to be able to download files into Apple own native apps like photo, video, pages, ... For example, be able to take a mp4 or a photo from the web and put on the device so the video or photo app see's it. The same applies for emails, I should be able to download an attach file from an email into its respective app.
Airdrop is a good example on how handling files should work, but its still to limited. icloud files sync is very advanced. but yet, iOS still cant handle basic file manipulations. Apple is caught with an completely outdated way of syncing files between the device and a PC, imo, itunes as a way to sync files to a iOS device needs to go.
I was thinking of my son's G2 vs an iP6. The G2 has a display almost the size of a 6 Plus, at 5.2", but in a body closer to the size of the 6, and it isn't pentile. It also has an OIS 13 Mp camera that gets better results than the iP5s camera. Build quality is subjective so there is no point in arguing. In terms of battery life, the G2 trounces the 6 by a wide margin. Standby time on the G2 is 900 hours - 250 for the 6. 3G talk time on the G2 is 25:01 - 14:00 for the 6. Web browsing and video playback are also longer on the G2.
Someone on another article pointed out the standby and 3G talk times of their favored Android phone versus the iPhone 6. I'll say again here what I said there; who goes even 250 hours (over 10 days) between putting their phone on a charger? Are you climbing Mt. Everest with it, hoping to make a call to CNN when you reach the top? Standby time beyond a few days is meaningless to the vast, vast majority of users, so why tout a stat that both phones far exceed in terms of any reasonable need? Likewise for 25 hours versus 14 hours of 3G talk time. Who talks on their phone for even 8 cumulative hours between charges? Who talks on their phone for even 8 hours in an entire month? Using the phone app on a smartphone has been relegated to fifth position, or lower, in the list of frequency of use cases. That Apple didn't optimize for the talk-time and standby time use cases, that's just evidence that Apple has done the hard work to make the right choices, as it has done across the entire design and development of the iPhone, so that we consumers don;t have to sort through the myriad decisions that make for a great smartphone. The stats you quote are a perfect example. Any Verizon or AT&T or other carrier sales person using such stats to push an Android handset (for which he or she might possibly be getting a spiff) would be doing the customer a disservice.
Same for those pushing an Android phone or Windows phone based upon camera pixel resolution; there's more to it than mere pixel count and a 13MP or 16MP shot that takes twice the memory versus an 8MP shot, but doesn't show any better on a 2MP display is not a service to the user. Apple understands that giving the camera better light sensitivity, flash technology that yields more aural color, image stabilization, etc, results in an overall better shot versus doubling the number of pixels. Apple understands that if you want to blow up a picture to poster size, or zoom in on a scene to near microscopic detail, you probably are a person who recognizes that a full DSLR with a large lens is in order. So apple doesn't attempt to fake it with numbers on a spec sheet.
It's all of these decisions that Apple makes, including the display resolution on its iPhones, and the specific display technology which Apple suggests yields more accurate color representation, for example, that create trust in the minds of its customers that Apple has considered and sweated the details so that we don't have to. This is in stark contrast to the evolutionary scattershot approach taken by the aggregate universe of Android vendors who leave it up to their customers to sort through details and technical issues beyond the competence of most individual consumers. Samsung and others throw out a whole array of models with varying specs and price points and then follow the sales volumes to wherever that leads them. This is not serving the customer at the same level as a company like Apple that employs thousands of engineers and a bench of scientists and designers to deeply think through the human interaction, the limits of human perception, and other aspects of how a technology will be perceived and utilized to achieve the best result for the most people.
More power to Apple as nice enough to Android users who lost their way in life to inferior OS smartphones. Now Apple taking responsibility in hand with iphone 6 / Plus and IOS 8 to show path of true Righteousness for better smartphone experience....Ha la Lu ya
More power to Apple as nice enough to Android users who lost their way in life to inferior OS smartphones. Now Apple taking responsibility in hand with iphone 6 / Plus and IOS 8 to show path of true Righteousness for better smartphone experience....Ha la Lu ya
Really, I have the best backup system that I have ever seen for any phone. When my phone is plugged in into it's dock I have a desktop application that auto backups up the entire system onto a ROM, puts a date in front of it and then uploads it to the cloud and puts a copy onto my NAS drive. Takes about 5 minutes to do.
Would you happen to know if Android is going to go 'PC free' in the near future? Not that the PC is going to eliminated anytime soon, just that I know a few people who dislike their PC so much as it needs a long time updating all security stuff when they booted it up after a looooong sleep. And that's simply because they use mobile devices, like the iPad most of the time.
Now iOS devices can use iCloud directly, without the need for a intermittent PC, just wondering if Google is heading that way. With their Chromebook being an 'Internet-device' I would presume so.
Thanks. And bloody great to see you posting so much again. Do hope your ribs feel better now and are on a speedy recovery.
Your English is better than 90% of native speakers', so don't take this as criticism. I'm sure autocorrect is to blame (because you're not the only one who has it come out this way), but every single time you mean to say "definitely" (bestimmt), what actually comes out is "defiantly" (trotzig).
(Google Translate tried to "correct" me in the opposite direction when I checked to see if my 45-year-old high school German was right.)
For all the "ANDROID HAS HAD X FEATURE FOR YEARS LOL" posts, I haven't seen a single one that addresses the above. Android does NOT have a built in, full backup and restore solution, something that the iPhone has had almost since its conception. To me, that's one of the most CRITICAL features to have, yet Google gets zero flack for not having it, and as expected, Android fanatics either dont give a shit, or dont bring any attention to it. You either need to pay to buy a decent backup utility, or download a shitload of utilities, each backing up different aspects of the phone, and pray that they actually restore. I used a highly rated SMS backup utility when I swtiched from a Nexus4 to a 5, and after "successfully" backing up, I was not able to restore anything to the new phone. Same with app saves- there's absolutely no clarity on what is being backed up, and what isn't. Upgrading Android phones while retaining all your data is a fucking nightmare. I guess Android loving neckbeards love that though, more reason to spend hours fucking with their new phone.
But yeah, it's all good. Apple's still stuck in 2012, or something.
So a 64 bit chip means it is a better processor by your own admission. Explain to me why a 32 bit Nvidia chip owns the a7, and competes with the a8 chip? Look at the pc ports they have added to the Nvidia shield, and tell me those don't look nice? Now you will tell me how benchmarks don't mean anything, and it is dependent on the integration. If that were the case, then running a benchmark while the system is running apps in the background (real multitasking, like processing video, and downloading a pdf, while uploading a song,ect, ect), and still out preforms the a7, then that is real life usage. This is all while being output to a 1080 screen, or connected with microhdmi. This tablet is 300 dollars, and runs circles around any ipad.When the Nvidia 64 bit chip(Denver, Google it) is released along with the new Intel chips, Apple is going to have some serious competition. Intel, and Nvidia will own Apple in the chip process. By the way, how is health kit working out so far? Dan buggy releases. Maps, BSoD, and now healthkit. You guys need to start living in reality, Apple isn't perfect, Android isnt the devil, and they both copy one another.Thump your chest, declare yourself the winner, you still just got 1st place at the special Olympics.
for people who used iOS I am pretty amaze by the lack of knowledge about it.
Files are all under apps folders. This results in weird behaviors, like for example, since Safari doesn't support files, you cant download anything from the web into an iOS device with the native web browser. You must used a third party app with a browser that can also handle a file structure.
To me, the bare minimum would be for Safari to be able to download files into Apple own native apps like photo, video, pages, ... For example, be able to take a mp4 or a photo from the web and put on the device so the video or photo app see's it. The same applies for emails, I should be able to download an attach file from an email into its respective app.
Airdrop is a good example on how handling files should work, but its still to limited. icloud files sync is very advanced. but yet, iOS still cant handle basic file manipulations. Apple is caught with an completely outdated way of syncing files between the device and a PC, imo, itunes as a way to sync files to a iOS device needs to go.
Been downloading photos from safari for years.
Hold finger on picture.
Save to camera roll.
Done.
Would you happen to know if Android is going to go 'PC free' in the near future? Not that the PC is going to eliminated anytime soon, just that I know a few people who dislike their PC so much as it needs a long time updating all security stuff when they booted it up after a looooong sleep. And that's simply because they use mobile devices, like the iPad most of the time.
Now iOS devices can use iCloud directly, without the need for a intermittent PC, just wondering if Google is heading that way. With their Chromebook being an 'Internet-device' I would presume so.
Hey Phil, sorry for the delayed response. Android doesn't require a PC for anything other then if you want to transfer files to your tablet using a USB cable. Updates come over the air just like in iOS. Two things that Android does a lot better the iOS is communication between apps and file handling. Since Android has a built in file manager and supports over a 100 different third party versions, you can do things like mount every single NAS, FTP cloud storage service that you have a subscription too, including iCloud, as a local asset, apps don't know the difference, operates just like in OSX or Windows. However, if you prefer using the client of your favorite cloud service that's also fine, once the client is installed, any app that is installed on your system and can produces a file, has access to said client, in iOS for instant, individual support for the cloud service has to be programmed into the app itself, even though for instance OneDrive is installed, an app will just ignore it unless the program was taught to handle it, global system support vs. giving the power to the individual app.
Android is a completely independent OS, in some cases more so then iOS. If you ever for some reason have to redo your system you'll have to use a computer with iTunes on it to do so. In most cases all you need to do with an Android device, is restart it into the recovery partition, click restore and then your off to the races, it also takes a fraction of the time to do so vs. iOS. If you have a more advanced recovery system installed, you could even choose individual backed up ROMs to flash, even install a complete new OS like Ubuntu or FireFox OS. Android also doesn't require an media player to copy files across from another computer, once an Android device is plugged into a computer, heck even an Xbox 360 or PlayStation, it shows up as any normal mounted drive would, navigate to your home directory and simply drag your files across.
I went into a little more detail then your question asked for as to kind of continue the other question as to why people would still want to use Android after Apple released a 5" phone. Though I personally only use an Android phone (Nexus 5) for testing and goofing around I do really enjoy using my Nexus 10. However if you noticed both my devices are of the Nexus brand, reason being, unless it comes directly from Google, unmolested, won't touch it, I hate it when manufactures skin Android, just horrible, especially TouchWiz. Anyway vanilla Android is a pretty good OS I have to say and the new "L" release is a whole new ball game, just so much faster, better battery and not to mention much nicer to look at.
Since Android has a built in file manager and supports over a 100 different third party versions, you can do things like mount every single NAS, FTP cloud storage service that you have a subscription too, including iCloud, as a local asset, apps don't know the difference, operates just like in OSX or Windows.
iOS has 3rd party file managers too that connect to NAS drives and manage folders and with iOS 8, they'll be able to communicate better with other apps. In older versions of the OS, you had to do an 'open with' command to copy files into their sandbox:
iOS has 3rd party file managers too that connect to NAS drives and manage folders and with iOS 8, they'll be able to communicate better with other apps. In older versions of the OS, you had to do an 'open with' command to copy files into their sandbox:
Oh I know, I use the very one you posted above. However an app like ES File Explorer for Android not only offers a lot more features, like more cloud storage support and search options, but mounts everything to the local filesystem so that any app can access the files directly simply by clicking open/save, without having to first download the file and then open it up with the app that will be used to manipulate the data. I also prefer having my files stored under a single directory then under individual apps, easier to backup and restore. I understand your point and it's just a small annoyance with iOS.
Hey Phil, sorry for the delayed response. Android doesn't require a PC for anything other then if you want to transfer files to your tablet using a USB cable. Updates come over the air just like in iOS. Two things that Android does a lot better the iOS is communication between apps and file handling. Since Android has a built in file manager and supports over a 100 different third party versions, you can do things like mount every single NAS, FTP cloud storage service that you have a subscription too, including iCloud, as a local asset, apps don't know the difference, operates just like in OSX or Windows. However, if you prefer using the client of your favorite cloud service that's also fine, once the client is installed, any app that is installed on your system and can produces a file, has access to said client, in iOS for instant, individual support for the cloud service has to be programmed into the app itself, even though for instance OneDrive is installed, an app will just ignore it unless the program was taught to handle it, global system support vs. giving the power to the individual app.
No worries on slow responding. I do that too, while I'm in a more 'fortunate position'. Hope you feel waaaay better very soon. And if it doesn't feel like that at the moment; things can only get better I guess.
Android being designed more as a 'desktop computer as we know them' certainly has it's advantages. If only for 'people like you'. Which is a good thing, though I do get Apple's view on this: I think they think people remember a document that they want to continue to work on, and because the doc is stored in app blah blah they open app blah blah and work on their doc. It somehow makes sense, and with enough time passing I guess we can actually see the hierarchal storage on OSX disappear as well. A thing like that will upset many, but we know Apple, always killling things because they think that's better for us pleps. I have to admit though, I often agree with them, or their way of implementing things.
Anyway I read that you had to connect the Nexus to your computer in order to back it up. My question: is it a requirement to do it that way? USB or WiFi, doesn't matter, but it to a PC; no way of backing up to the cloud. I'm sure Google has a similar offering from Apple's iCloud(?)
Android is a completely independent OS, in some cases more so then iOS. If you ever for some reason have to redo your system you'll have to use a computer with iTunes on it to do so. In most cases all you need to do with an Android device, is restart it into the recovery partition, click restore and then your off to the races, it also takes a fraction of the time to do so vs. iOS. If you have a more advanced recovery system installed, you could even choose individual backed up ROMs to flash, even install a complete new OS like Ubuntu or FireFox OS. Android also doesn't require an media player to copy files across from another computer, once an Android device is plugged into a computer, heck even an Xbox 360 or PlayStation, it shows up as any normal mounted drive would, navigate to your home directory and simply drag your files across.
Apple certainly creates a 'closed and walled garden' on iOS. But I actually like this garden, and since there isn't anything swimming in the pond I don't smell anything fishy. I fully understand why Google designed it this way: they are all for open and creating these options in Android is therefore to be expected.
I went into a little more detail then your question asked for as to kind of continue the other question as to why people would still want to use Android after Apple released a 5" phone. Though I personally only use an Android phone (Nexus 5) for testing and goofing around I do really enjoy using my Nexus 10. However if you noticed both my devices are of the Nexus brand, reason being, unless it comes directly from Google, unmolested, won't touch it, I hate it when manufactures skin Android, just horrible, especially TouchWiz. Anyway vanilla Android is a pretty good OS I have to say and the new "L" release is a whole new ball game, just so much faster, better battery and not to mention much nicer to look at.
That makes so much sense I don't even feel the need to explain why I agree with you here.
Best to you Relic - in my thoughts (admittedly because I have lost people close to me and actually am going through 'the process' of trying to pull a friend through his neuroendocrine tumor diagnose and operations. He's doing very well fortunately.
I fully understand why Google designed it this way: they are all for open and creating these options in Android is therefore to be expected.
Google is not for "open." Google is for making their OS as pervasive as possible so they can gather more user data from more devices and use it to sell advertising, thus profiting from their "free" software. Period.
I wish people would stop repeating Google's "free and open" mantra because it's baloney.
Some commenter on The Verge (who also frequents MacRumors and possibly even AI) had the stones to thank Google for making technology available to impoverished nations. Yeah, Google are real humanitarians. *pukes*
You want real "free and open?" Try Firefox OS (no one will). Of course, where does Firefox get most its funding? Google. Ugh.
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I agree with all the rest of your points., and this one is probably true for a phone.
However, the lack of a file system is the reason I don't have an iPad. I'd be using it as a reader 99% of the time, and with the number of files I have, in four different formats, it's just impossible.
First, I would have to remember what format a particular item was in, and start that application (If there even is a DjVu reader—probably not). Then I'd have to page through hundreds of screens of blank icons to find the one I wanted.
This after putting in a week's work renaming everything to fit in a single flat file, by author's name, I suppose—and no way of separating authors with the same last name.
Yes, I know iOS8 supports file management in iCloud. Is iCloud going to store 48 GB and growing? (A lot of these are scanned PDF and DjVu, not 200 KB ePub files).
If you could ever use a Time Capsule instead of iCloud, then I'd be all over it, but till then a laptop is my only alternative.
and they missed
1) a working fingerprint sensor
2) better screen
3) better camera
4) simpler to use
5) better quality (thus longer life)
6) better battery usage
etc etc etc
1) Yes
2) No
3) Yet to be seen, probably no
4) Possibly
5) No
6) Big no
Someone said there is now no reason not to switch to an iPhone, but there is - cost - which is a legitimate concern for people who are not on 6-7 figure incomes. I recently purchased an LG G2 for my son, it cost €350 ($453). An iP6 would have cost €800 ($1,036).
1) Yes
2) Yes. More (pentile) pixels doesn't mean better except to spec-hound neckbeards.
3) Certainly in the top few. A much thicker phone could easily have a better camera, but then it's a camera with a built-in phone, not the reverse. And no, "More pixels!!!" does not mean better—see spec-hound neckbeards above.
4) Certainly
5) You've got to be kidding with this!
6) Big, big yes.
1) SD card cannot be used to run apps on. its storage, wtf do you think the cloud is for?
2) Android devices are simply replacement of feature phones and not used as a smartphone, especially in the U.S
3) Well if your phone needs an extra battery there must be something up with its power consumption. I have never ever seen anyone who owns a Android phone with an extra battery, The only way you can get a full days use out of an Android phone is to dim the screen to minimum and don't tell us thats not true because we know you are lying
4) Multi tasking is for the desktop , useless feature on a phone
5) I have a cable for HDMI out on my iPhone genius, not that I need it.
6) file management is for nerds, next you will be touting its command prompt (LOL), really most people don't give toss about the nightmare of managing a file directory
7) Iphone has wireless speakers too
8) no its not a better camera pixels has very little to do with it, as many professional reviews have pointed out. You really are displaying your technical ignorance now.
9) iPhone only requires 1GB of RAM because it doesn't need more , iOS is smaller and runs faster
10) Oh and its called Blackberry now , its about given up on the handset market, its now almost all a software services company
11) iOS is insane cool, easy to use, intuitive and simple to use
12) NFC only works on <10% of Android installed base, an unmitigated failure
13) oh and it is "Porsche" nor "Porshe" twit
Wow, first, I was playing devils advocate to a silly statement, there was no need to respond. Twit, twit, really, I make a small spelling mistake and you call me a twit, have you read your post, English is not my first language, heck, it's not even my third but even I could tell your response would make a 5th grader cringe, punctuation is your friend, use it and it's iPhone, not Iphone, not iphone, iPhone, see, pretty annoying isn't it, I would probably suggest you think a little next time before you go after someone because of a single spelling mistake, maybe perhaps even proof read before clicking on that submit button. By the way, you can run apps from the SD card in Android, Google it, "Android, run apps from a Mini SD Card". The file manager is still a very useful utility, especially if your data is spread across multiple cloud storage services and networked storage. In iOS even though you have say, OneDrive installed, an app like Pages still ignores it because the app itself wasn't programmed to handle that specific cloud storage provider. In Android, once the client app is installed, every single app can utilize that client, but why bother when you have a file manager that can mount every single NAS, cloud storage, FTP, etc. without the need of a bunch of clients that just take up space. So again any app that's installed on your system can save to those mounted drives as if the storage was local. I also never said the iPhone didn't have an HDMI, you're just adding in your fantasy so you can make yourself out to be some sort of self proclaimed Troll killer. The HDMI resolution in iOS is app dependent, so if your TV is 1080P and the app is only programmed to display a 4:3 display it doesn't look very nice, in Android, apps depend on the system for their resolution, so everything, including the desktop is 1080p, a more constant experience and who cares if you don't use your HDMI, is that supposed to mean that others follow in your foot steps, you're delusional. When I talked about the camera I wasn't specifically talking about MP, did you read anywhere in my post that had the word, mega-pixel in it, no, again, just jumping to conclusions because of that warped sense of self righteousness, below is an example of an Android phone that is paired with a Leica lens kit, get it now. I'm not going to bother with the rest because it's just too silly to comment, like calling me a liar before I even responded, where do people like you come from. Look, this is all just arbitrary anyway as I was just commenting to a person who said why would anyone want to still use an Android phone. I wasn't trying to put down the iPhone, say that Android is better, just stated that their are still people who prefer the platform even though their is new 5" iPhone and gave a few examples as to why. You took it as if I was saying Android was superior or something. I have an Android phone, yep, sure do, but it's a toy, just like my Windows 8 phone, I love technology so I don't bottle myself into any one specific brand, I like Pepsi and RC Cola too. So next time, please take a deep breath, calm down and think before you type, oh and please don't forget to have a great day.
Your English is better than 90% of native speakers', so don't take this as criticism. I'm sure autocorrect is to blame (because you're not the only one who has it come out this way), but every single time you mean to say "definitely" (bestimmt), what actually comes out is "defiantly" (trotzig).
(Google Translate tried to "correct" me in the opposite direction when I checked to see if my 45-year-old high school German was right.)
1) Yes
2) Yes. More (pentile) pixels doesn't mean better except to spec-hound neckbeards.
3) Certainly in the top few. A much thicker phone could easily have a better camera, but then it's a camera with a built-in phone, not the reverse. And no, "More pixels!!!" does not mean better—see spec-hound neckbeards above.
4) Certainly
5) You've got to be kidding with this!
6) Big, big yes.
I was thinking of my son's G2 vs an iP6. The G2 has a display almost the size of a 6 Plus, at 5.2", but in a body closer to the size of the 6, and it isn't pentile. It also has an OIS 13 Mp camera that gets better results than the iP5s camera. Build quality is subjective so there is no point in arguing. In terms of battery life, the G2 trounces the 6 by a wide margin. Standby time on the G2 is 900 hours - 250 for the 6. 3G talk time on the G2 is 25:01 - 14:00 for the 6. Web browsing and video playback are also longer on the G2.
Because Apple supports no files in iOS, as you say.
No photos, no music, no video, no documents.
I think you've had one herb too many, Mr. Herbapou.
for people who used iOS I am pretty amaze by the lack of knowledge about it.
Files are all under apps folders. This results in weird behaviors, like for example, since Safari doesn't support files, you cant download anything from the web into an iOS device with the native web browser. You must used a third party app with a browser that can also handle a file structure.
To me, the bare minimum would be for Safari to be able to download files into Apple own native apps like photo, video, pages, ... For example, be able to take a mp4 or a photo from the web and put on the device so the video or photo app see's it. The same applies for emails, I should be able to download an attach file from an email into its respective app.
Airdrop is a good example on how handling files should work, but its still to limited. icloud files sync is very advanced. but yet, iOS still cant handle basic file manipulations. Apple is caught with an completely outdated way of syncing files between the device and a PC, imo, itunes as a way to sync files to a iOS device needs to go.
I was thinking of my son's G2 vs an iP6. The G2 has a display almost the size of a 6 Plus, at 5.2", but in a body closer to the size of the 6, and it isn't pentile. It also has an OIS 13 Mp camera that gets better results than the iP5s camera. Build quality is subjective so there is no point in arguing. In terms of battery life, the G2 trounces the 6 by a wide margin. Standby time on the G2 is 900 hours - 250 for the 6. 3G talk time on the G2 is 25:01 - 14:00 for the 6. Web browsing and video playback are also longer on the G2.
Someone on another article pointed out the standby and 3G talk times of their favored Android phone versus the iPhone 6. I'll say again here what I said there; who goes even 250 hours (over 10 days) between putting their phone on a charger? Are you climbing Mt. Everest with it, hoping to make a call to CNN when you reach the top? Standby time beyond a few days is meaningless to the vast, vast majority of users, so why tout a stat that both phones far exceed in terms of any reasonable need? Likewise for 25 hours versus 14 hours of 3G talk time. Who talks on their phone for even 8 cumulative hours between charges? Who talks on their phone for even 8 hours in an entire month? Using the phone app on a smartphone has been relegated to fifth position, or lower, in the list of frequency of use cases. That Apple didn't optimize for the talk-time and standby time use cases, that's just evidence that Apple has done the hard work to make the right choices, as it has done across the entire design and development of the iPhone, so that we consumers don;t have to sort through the myriad decisions that make for a great smartphone. The stats you quote are a perfect example. Any Verizon or AT&T or other carrier sales person using such stats to push an Android handset (for which he or she might possibly be getting a spiff) would be doing the customer a disservice.
Same for those pushing an Android phone or Windows phone based upon camera pixel resolution; there's more to it than mere pixel count and a 13MP or 16MP shot that takes twice the memory versus an 8MP shot, but doesn't show any better on a 2MP display is not a service to the user. Apple understands that giving the camera better light sensitivity, flash technology that yields more aural color, image stabilization, etc, results in an overall better shot versus doubling the number of pixels. Apple understands that if you want to blow up a picture to poster size, or zoom in on a scene to near microscopic detail, you probably are a person who recognizes that a full DSLR with a large lens is in order. So apple doesn't attempt to fake it with numbers on a spec sheet.
It's all of these decisions that Apple makes, including the display resolution on its iPhones, and the specific display technology which Apple suggests yields more accurate color representation, for example, that create trust in the minds of its customers that Apple has considered and sweated the details so that we don't have to. This is in stark contrast to the evolutionary scattershot approach taken by the aggregate universe of Android vendors who leave it up to their customers to sort through details and technical issues beyond the competence of most individual consumers. Samsung and others throw out a whole array of models with varying specs and price points and then follow the sales volumes to wherever that leads them. This is not serving the customer at the same level as a company like Apple that employs thousands of engineers and a bench of scientists and designers to deeply think through the human interaction, the limits of human perception, and other aspects of how a technology will be perceived and utilized to achieve the best result for the most people.
More power to Apple as nice enough to Android users who lost their way in life to inferior OS smartphones. Now Apple taking responsibility in hand with iphone 6 / Plus and IOS 8 to show path of true Righteousness for better smartphone experience....Ha la Lu ya
More power to Apple as nice enough to Android users who lost their way in life to inferior OS smartphones. Now Apple taking responsibility in hand with iphone 6 / Plus and IOS 8 to show path of true Righteousness for better smartphone experience....Ha la Lu ya
Would you happen to know if Android is going to go 'PC free' in the near future? Not that the PC is going to eliminated anytime soon, just that I know a few people who dislike their PC so much as it needs a long time updating all security stuff when they booted it up after a looooong sleep. And that's simply because they use mobile devices, like the iPad most of the time.
Now iOS devices can use iCloud directly, without the need for a intermittent PC, just wondering if Google is heading that way. With their Chromebook being an 'Internet-device' I would presume so.
Thanks. And bloody great to see you posting so much again. Do hope your ribs feel better now and are on a speedy recovery.
Well put! (together)
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Indeed, autocorrupt at work again.
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For all the "ANDROID HAS HAD X FEATURE FOR YEARS LOL" posts, I haven't seen a single one that addresses the above. Android does NOT have a built in, full backup and restore solution, something that the iPhone has had almost since its conception. To me, that's one of the most CRITICAL features to have, yet Google gets zero flack for not having it, and as expected, Android fanatics either dont give a shit, or dont bring any attention to it. You either need to pay to buy a decent backup utility, or download a shitload of utilities, each backing up different aspects of the phone, and pray that they actually restore. I used a highly rated SMS backup utility when I swtiched from a Nexus4 to a 5, and after "successfully" backing up, I was not able to restore anything to the new phone. Same with app saves- there's absolutely no clarity on what is being backed up, and what isn't. Upgrading Android phones while retaining all your data is a fucking nightmare. I guess Android loving neckbeards love that though, more reason to spend hours fucking with their new phone.
But yeah, it's all good. Apple's still stuck in 2012, or something.
+1. This Android Data to iPhone Transfer utility may help in migrating data.
So a 64 bit chip means it is a better processor by your own admission. Explain to me why a 32 bit Nvidia chip owns the a7, and competes with the a8 chip? Look at the pc ports they have added to the Nvidia shield, and tell me those don't look nice? Now you will tell me how benchmarks don't mean anything, and it is dependent on the integration. If that were the case, then running a benchmark while the system is running apps in the background (real multitasking, like processing video, and downloading a pdf, while uploading a song,ect, ect), and still out preforms the a7, then that is real life usage. This is all while being output to a 1080 screen, or connected with microhdmi. This tablet is 300 dollars, and runs circles around any ipad.When the Nvidia 64 bit chip(Denver, Google it) is released along with the new Intel chips, Apple is going to have some serious competition. Intel, and Nvidia will own Apple in the chip process. By the way, how is health kit working out so far? Dan buggy releases. Maps, BSoD, and now healthkit. You guys need to start living in reality, Apple isn't perfect, Android isnt the devil, and they both copy one another.Thump your chest, declare yourself the winner, you still just got 1st place at the special Olympics.
Been downloading photos from safari for years.
Hold finger on picture.
Save to camera roll.
Done.
The poster obviously has never used iOS before, because this basic stuff really is hard to miss.
Would you happen to know if Android is going to go 'PC free' in the near future? Not that the PC is going to eliminated anytime soon, just that I know a few people who dislike their PC so much as it needs a long time updating all security stuff when they booted it up after a looooong sleep. And that's simply because they use mobile devices, like the iPad most of the time.
Now iOS devices can use iCloud directly, without the need for a intermittent PC, just wondering if Google is heading that way. With their Chromebook being an 'Internet-device' I would presume so.
Hey Phil, sorry for the delayed response. Android doesn't require a PC for anything other then if you want to transfer files to your tablet using a USB cable. Updates come over the air just like in iOS. Two things that Android does a lot better the iOS is communication between apps and file handling. Since Android has a built in file manager and supports over a 100 different third party versions, you can do things like mount every single NAS, FTP cloud storage service that you have a subscription too, including iCloud, as a local asset, apps don't know the difference, operates just like in OSX or Windows. However, if you prefer using the client of your favorite cloud service that's also fine, once the client is installed, any app that is installed on your system and can produces a file, has access to said client, in iOS for instant, individual support for the cloud service has to be programmed into the app itself, even though for instance OneDrive is installed, an app will just ignore it unless the program was taught to handle it, global system support vs. giving the power to the individual app.
Android is a completely independent OS, in some cases more so then iOS. If you ever for some reason have to redo your system you'll have to use a computer with iTunes on it to do so. In most cases all you need to do with an Android device, is restart it into the recovery partition, click restore and then your off to the races, it also takes a fraction of the time to do so vs. iOS. If you have a more advanced recovery system installed, you could even choose individual backed up ROMs to flash, even install a complete new OS like Ubuntu or FireFox OS. Android also doesn't require an media player to copy files across from another computer, once an Android device is plugged into a computer, heck even an Xbox 360 or PlayStation, it shows up as any normal mounted drive would, navigate to your home directory and simply drag your files across.
I went into a little more detail then your question asked for as to kind of continue the other question as to why people would still want to use Android after Apple released a 5" phone. Though I personally only use an Android phone (Nexus 5) for testing and goofing around I do really enjoy using my Nexus 10. However if you noticed both my devices are of the Nexus brand, reason being, unless it comes directly from Google, unmolested, won't touch it, I hate it when manufactures skin Android, just horrible, especially TouchWiz. Anyway vanilla Android is a pretty good OS I have to say and the new "L" release is a whole new ball game, just so much faster, better battery and not to mention much nicer to look at.
iOS has 3rd party file managers too that connect to NAS drives and manage folders and with iOS 8, they'll be able to communicate better with other apps. In older versions of the OS, you had to do an 'open with' command to copy files into their sandbox:
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iOS has 3rd party file managers too that connect to NAS drives and manage folders and with iOS 8, they'll be able to communicate better with other apps. In older versions of the OS, you had to do an 'open with' command to copy files into their sandbox:
Oh I know, I use the very one you posted above. However an app like ES File Explorer for Android not only offers a lot more features, like more cloud storage support and search options, but mounts everything to the local filesystem so that any app can access the files directly simply by clicking open/save, without having to first download the file and then open it up with the app that will be used to manipulate the data. I also prefer having my files stored under a single directory then under individual apps, easier to backup and restore. I understand your point and it's just a small annoyance with iOS.
No worries on slow responding. I do that too, while I'm in a more 'fortunate position'. Hope you feel waaaay better very soon. And if it doesn't feel like that at the moment; things can only get better I guess.
Android being designed more as a 'desktop computer as we know them' certainly has it's advantages. If only for 'people like you'. Which is a good thing, though I do get Apple's view on this: I think they think people remember a document that they want to continue to work on, and because the doc is stored in app blah blah they open app blah blah and work on their doc. It somehow makes sense, and with enough time passing I guess we can actually see the hierarchal storage on OSX disappear as well. A thing like that will upset many, but we know Apple, always killling things because they think that's better for us pleps. I have to admit though, I often agree with them, or their way of implementing things.
Anyway I read that you had to connect the Nexus to your computer in order to back it up. My question: is it a requirement to do it that way? USB or WiFi, doesn't matter, but it to a PC; no way of backing up to the cloud. I'm sure Google has a similar offering from Apple's iCloud(?)
Apple certainly creates a 'closed and walled garden' on iOS. But I actually like this garden, and since there isn't anything swimming in the pond I don't smell anything fishy. I fully understand why Google designed it this way: they are all for open and creating these options in Android is therefore to be expected.
That makes so much sense I don't even feel the need to explain why I agree with you here.
Best to you Relic - in my thoughts (admittedly because I have lost people close to me and actually am going through 'the process' of trying to pull a friend through his neuroendocrine tumor diagnose and operations. He's doing very well fortunately.
I fully understand why Google designed it this way: they are all for open and creating these options in Android is therefore to be expected.
Google is not for "open." Google is for making their OS as pervasive as possible so they can gather more user data from more devices and use it to sell advertising, thus profiting from their "free" software. Period.
I wish people would stop repeating Google's "free and open" mantra because it's baloney.
Some commenter on The Verge (who also frequents MacRumors and possibly even AI) had the stones to thank Google for making technology available to impoverished nations. Yeah, Google are real humanitarians. *pukes*
You want real "free and open?" Try Firefox OS (no one will). Of course, where does Firefox get most its funding? Google. Ugh.