Apple says iOS 8 on 47% of devices as adoption rate slows, tied with iOS 7 distribution

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  • Reply 21 of 117
    muadibe wrote: »

    Yes, but you ignore the fact that there are many people with an iPhone who NEVER connect it to a computer.  They rely on the cloud, so yes, the space requirement is in fact a big deal for many and I'm sure is a major contributing factor.
    I'm quite sure there are in fact many stupid people with iPhones, and I'm equally sure that's a major factor....
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  • Reply 22 of 117
    kpomkpom Posts: 660member
    eriamjh wrote: »
    No. He's right.  iOS 8.0 and 8.0.1 were a disaster.  8.0.2 isn't that great either.  I'm not updating my iPad air until 8.1 or not at all.  iOS8 sucks balls.  It's unstable and buggy.  It's broken many things and made iOS crappy to use.  If you disagree, fine, but I'm using it and I do not find that "it just works".   It's not a good update and will probably take a few more months for Apple to get it to be as decent as iOS7 was.   

    I liked IOS6 and it was rock solid.  New features aside, iOS7 and iOS8 have made things a little less great.

    iOS 6 and iOS 7 had more than their fair shares of issues upon release. iOS 6 had Maps, and I believe iOS 7 broke Exchange compatibility for over a month until Apple and Microsoft figured out what was going on. I recall calendar entries getting screwed up and contacts not showing up. More likely is is that the OTA upgrade requires nearly 6GB free.
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  • Reply 23 of 117
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    Honestly I think iOS 8 wasn't ready for prime time but Apple felt they had to ship it with the new iPhones. Maybe they need to get away from that and just ship software when it's ready even if that means it doesn't come out at the same time as new phones do.
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  • Reply 24 of 117
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    I'm quite sure there are in fact many stupid people with iPhones, and I'm equally sure that's a major factor....

    I wouldn't connect iTunes unless I had absolutely no other choice. Why do OTA updates require so much free space? Of course if Apple made 32GB standard with the base model (rumors are that's what they're doing with the new iPads) most people wouldn't have this problem.
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  • Reply 25 of 117
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    Originally Posted by Eriamjh View Post

     

    No. He's right.  iOS 8.0 and 8.0.1 were a disaster.  8.0.2 isn't that great either.  I'm not updating my iPad air until 8.1 or not at all.  iOS8 sucks balls.  It's unstable and buggy.  It's broken many things and made iOS crappy to use.  If you disagree, fine, but I'm using it and I do not find that "it just works".   It's not a good update and will probably take a few more months for Apple to get it to be as decent as iOS7 was.   

     

    I liked IOS6 and it was rock solid.  New features aside, iOS7 and iOS8 have made things a little less great.


    I'm on 8.0.2 and find it at least as stable as 7.1.2. None of the random resets (i.e., the "white screen of death") and widespread app crashes that plagued the early iOS 7 releases. Still some random bugs that pop up periodically, particularly with Bluetooth (and 8.1 purportedly addresses the Bluetooth issues). But, on my phone, iOS 8 has been much a much smoother ride than iOS 7 was.

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  • Reply 26 of 117
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
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    Originally Posted by Eriamjh View Post

     

    No. He's right.  iOS 8.0 and 8.0.1 were a disaster.  8.0.2 isn't that great either.  I'm not updating my iPad air until 8.1 or not at all.  iOS8 sucks balls.  It's unstable and buggy.  It's broken many things and made iOS crappy to use.  If you disagree, fine, but I'm using it and I do not find that "it just works".   It's not a good update and will probably take a few more months for Apple to get it to be as decent as iOS7 was.   

     

    I liked IOS6 and it was rock solid.  New features aside, iOS7 and iOS8 have made things a little less great.




    Baloney on all counts. Pure nonsense. Saying that iOS 6 was rock solid proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. First of all the iOS 8.0.1 update only affected iPhone 6 users, and then only those iPhone 6 users who updated OTA. This is a FACT. Apple estimated it affected 46K users out of ten million. Second of all the people who actually know what they are talking about say iOS 8 is working quite nicely thank you. Instead of making false statements you cannot back up with facts try learning how to update and use iOS for once. It’s tiring listening to complaints from people who have no clue.

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  • Reply 27 of 117
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member

    Why is that no one sees fit to mention the difference between last year and this year is something in the neighborhood of 250-300 million iOS devices?

     

    47% of users on iOS 8 is something like 352 million devices.

     

    This time last year, 47% of devices on iOS 7 would have been barely 235 million devices.

     

    But somehow that equates to "slower" adoption, because Apple blog authors cannot f'ing count.

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  • Reply 28 of 117
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
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    Originally Posted by Eriamjh View Post

     

    No. He's right.  iOS 8.0 and 8.0.1 were a disaster.  8.0.2 isn't that great either.  I'm not updating my iPad air until 8.1 or not at all.  iOS8 sucks balls.  It's unstable and buggy.  It's broken many things and made iOS crappy to use.  If you disagree, fine, but I'm using it and I do not find that "it just works".   It's not a good update and will probably take a few more months for Apple to get it to be as decent as iOS7 was.   

     

    I liked IOS6 and it was rock solid.  New features aside, iOS7 and iOS8 have made things a little less great.




    That's ridiculous FUD Garbage. Get off this site if you're going to pander bulls*t

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  • Reply 29 of 117
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    I wouldn't connect iTunes unless I had absolutely no other choice. Why do OTA updates require so much free space? Of course if Apple made 32GB standard with the base model (rumors are that's what they're doing with the new iPads) most people wouldn't have this problem.

    If you reduce the size of the OTA updates, then what part of the safety net would Apple need to remove? The installation package is about 1.9 GB. Unpacking and uncompressing the iOS 8 files will take up more space than that, and backing up the iOS 7 files just in case things go awry takes up around 1.4 GB.

     

    Obviously, going through iTunes offloads the downloading and unpacking, and gives you the fail safes without having to clear out a huge chunk of storage. Personally, I just see more things that can go wrong with an OTA update (though not necessarily with a major interval update, because you'd have to download the full installation package via OTA anyway), and actually find it more convenient to use iTunes.

     

    Before doing any major iOS update, I always restore to factory settings first and install iOS onto a blank device using iTunes. If everything checks out, then I restore the apps and settings from a local backup (so that my messages and photos also reload). Doing this OTA would be slow going since I have don't have a fast internet connection at home and having to reload 20 GB worth of apps would chew through a good portion of my monthly data cap.

     

    With the minor interval updates I also use iTunes, because I prefer to replace the entire OS contents rather than just the delta files. The botched 8.0.1 update apparently created more problems for OTA updaters than those who used iTunes.

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  • Reply 30 of 117
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,742member
    I'm waiting for 8.1 to fix the problems with screen rotation in Mobile Safari on my iPhone 6 before I upgrade any of my iOS 7 devices.
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  • Reply 31 of 117
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    There's also a lot more devices to upgrade to the 8 than there were to upgrade to 7 last year. Still, I'm waiting for 8.1 and skipping 8.0.2 for now...
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  • Reply 32 of 117
    woochifer wrote: »
    I'm on 8.0.2 and find it at least as stable as 7.1.2. None of the random resets (i.e., the "white screen of death") and widespread app crashes that plagued the early iOS 7 releases. Still some random bugs that pop up periodically, particularly with Bluetooth (and 8.1 purportedly addresses the Bluetooth issues). But, on my phone, iOS 8 has been much a much smoother ride than iOS 7 was.

    I never had any issues with IOS 7, came with 5S. IOS 8.0.2 on the other hand I have at least 6 soft reboots, phone goes to apple logo for a few seconds then returns to home screen, and had to do 2 hard resets, hold home and power button until I get apple logo. I did OTA update.
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  • Reply 33 of 117
    eriamjh wrote: »
    iOS 8.0 and 8.0.1 were a disaster.  8.0.2 isn't that great either.  I'm not updating my iPad air until 8.1 or not at all.  iOS8 sucks balls.  It's unstable and buggy.  It's broken many things and made iOS crappy to use.  If you disagree, fine, but I'm using it and I do not find that "it just works".   It's not a good update and will probably take a few more months for Apple to get it to be as decent as iOS7 was.   

    I liked IOS6 and it was rock solid.  New features aside, iOS7 and iOS8 have made things a little less great.

    Couldn't agree more with Eriamjh. iOS is gone downhill in terms of polish and UX since the introduction of iOS 7. Finish, attention to detail, implementation, user experience... that's what Apple used to be all about, but as of lately it doesn't seem the case (at least with iOS). I mean, explain to me, why on earth do red notification badges overlap with the icons on the top of the screen when apps are on the top row?! Seriously?! Why do notification icons change magnification from the lock screen to the home screen?! Why do the corners of folders change shape when opened?! If iOS 7 and 8 ethos is about doing away with gradients and textures and going with flat, then why on freaking earth is the Game Center app icon "3D"? Where is the cohesiveness?!?! The app icon looks like it belongs to a different OS! If iOS 7 and 8 is about doing away with skeuomorphism then why on freaking earth are the Note and Reminders apps textured?!?! What happen to attention to detail and cohesiveness?

    Listen, I love Apple, I love their products, at home we have an iPad, and iPod, two MacBook Pros, and AppleTV, an iPhone 5 and I just got the 6. I love Apple, but anyone that cares about the way Apple does implementation and cares about their care for attention to detail can see that their main issue right now is quality control with iOS. They are losing their touch on UX with iOS... since the release of iOS 7. Don't get me wrong, I love all the new features, but I'm not liking the lack of cohesiveness and the lack of attention to detail Apple used to be all about. It's not just about the features but about the implementation of features... It's all about implementation...

    There, soapbox over.
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  • Reply 34 of 117
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,369member
    We are still urging caution to users of our app due to bugs in iOS 8. The truth is that there are issues, particularly with external video crashing the operating system with a blue screen of death and displaying RTF or Word files. We also have seen some other issues with networking and general performance issues. iOS 8.1 beta fixes some but not all of these issues.

    The trouble is that users think that iOS is always flawless and just upgrade before they run our software for live performances. Then they blame us for the problems. It sucks but we just point them to our research and tell them to not upgrade so fast.

    Even in my iPhone 6+ these problems exist as well as screen orientation issues. For instance, I play a game in full screen mode and the volume indicator will not adjust to the screen orientation. Receiving notifications are upside but cause the screen to rotate around to show it.

    So yeah, I'll glad that adoption is low right now until Apple corrects these issues so my support team isn't hammered with issues that are not ours.
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  • Reply 35 of 117
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,369member
    pmz wrote: »

    That's ridiculous FUD Garbage. Get off this site if you're going to pander bulls*t

    Unfortunately it's true. The first versions of iOS 7 were terrible. The first release and the pulled release of iOS 8 was equally so. I'm running iOS 8.1 beta and it's much more solid, but still has issues.

    I write an iOS app for a living so I'm not here to "pander bullshit". But I do need to speak the truth to my users and we are urging caution with updates at this time: http://onsongapp.com/ios8/
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  • Reply 36 of 117
    eriamjh wrote: »
    No. He's right.  iOS 8.0 and 8.0.1 were a disaster.  8.0.2 isn't that great either.  I'm not updating my iPad air until 8.1 or not at all.  iOS8 sucks balls.  It's unstable and buggy.  It's broken many things and made iOS crappy to use.  If you disagree, fine, but I'm using it and I do not find that "it just works".   It's not a good update and will probably take a few more months for Apple to get it to be as decent as iOS7 was.   

    I liked IOS6 and it was rock solid.  New features aside, iOS7 and iOS8 have made things a little less great.

    I was having issues with iOS 8& 8.0.2 the AppleCare guy told me to do a fresh back up from my iPhone 6+ then wipe it and restore it, no bugs no issues since
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  • Reply 37 of 117
    jkichlinejkichline Posts: 1,369member
    lkrupp wrote: »

    Baloney on all counts. Pure nonsense. Saying that iOS 6 was rock solid proves that you have no idea what you are talking about. First of all the iOS 8.0.1 update only affected iPhone 6 users, and then only those iPhone 6 users who updated OTA. This is a FACT. Apple estimated it affected 46K users out of ten million. Second of all the people who actually know what they are talking about say iOS 8 is working quite nicely thank you. Instead of making false statements you cannot back up with facts try learning how to update and use iOS for once. It’s tiring listening to complaints from people who have no clue.
    App developer here. We make an app in the top charts for iPads. I think we know a bit about updating and testing things for our few hundred thousand users.

    Truth is iOS 6 was a great iOS. iOS 7.0.x was a terrible release with a lot of stability issues, but a lot of our pain came from working around issues. iOS 7.1.x were much better but there are still some oddities in the SDK, especially with Bluetooth and text encoding issues.

    iOS 8.0.x has had some significant troubles but are more isolated instances in our case and things that we can't workaround unfortunately. I've submitted six bug reports to Apple and they are very quickly trying to replicate issues. iOS 8.1 is better, but haven't fixed all of our reported issues.

    We and other app developers in the music community are urging caution as there are s number of issues that are still outstanding. http://onsongapp.com/ios8/

    So stop saying "we don't know what we are talking about". We do this for a living with a top rated app and have been in the thick of the transition with our users. The instability is real although you may not have experienced it.
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  • Reply 38 of 117
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member
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    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    Nice deflection.

     

    Deflection? I'm sorry, is half of all iOS device on the newest update barely 2 weeks after release supposed to be BAD? Really? It's a damn impressive ratio. 

     

    Release of new iPads this month, plus iPhone 6/6+ launching in new markets (China) should significantly increase this percentage too. 

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  • Reply 39 of 117
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Eriamjh View Post

     

    No. He's right.  iOS 8.0 and 8.0.1 were a disaster.  8.0.2 isn't that great either.  I'm not updating my iPad air until 8.1 or not at all.  iOS8 sucks balls.  It's unstable and buggy.  It's broken many things and made iOS crappy to use.  If you disagree, fine, but I'm using it and I do not find that "it just works".   It's not a good update and will probably take a few more months for Apple to get it to be as decent as iOS7 was.   

     

    I liked IOS6 and it was rock solid.  New features aside, iOS7 and iOS8 have made things a little less great.


     

    Complete horse-shit. I have 3 devices on iOS8 I use everyday and haven't had a SINGLE issue. If it was as bad as you say, then I think I would have encountered these massive issues you speak of, which makes iOS8 "suck balls" and "crappy to use". Maybe you have a borked install? Enough with the bullshit sensationalism. Yes, of course there's bugs. But its a million times more stable than iOS7 ever was at release. Funny how in all your adjectives you couldnt point to a single, specific issue, beyond the generic troll line of "LOL IT JUST WORKS". 

     

    I have an iPad Air, and iO8 has made it so much better. Haven't had 1 crash, while I often had crashes with iOS7. Safari is a million times better. But yeah, don't update your iPad Air at all. That'll show em. 

     

    You're a joke. 

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  • Reply 40 of 117
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
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    Originally Posted by eckergus View Post





    Couldn't agree more with Eriamjh. iOS is gone downhill in terms of polish and UX since the introduction of iOS 7. Finish, attention to detail, implementation, user experience... that's what Apple used to be all about, but as of lately it doesn't seem the case (at least with iOS). I mean, explain to me, why on earth do red notification badges overlap with the icons on the top of the screen when apps are on the top row?! Seriously?! Why do notification icons change magnification from the lock screen to the home screen?! Why do the corners of folders change shape when opened?! If iOS 7 and 8 ethos is about doing away with gradients and textures and going with flat, then why on freaking earth is the Game Center app icon "3D"? Where is the cohesiveness?!?! The app icon looks like it belongs to a different OS! If iOS 7 and 8 is about doing away with skeuomorphism then why on freaking earth are the Note and Reminders apps textured?!?! What happen to attention to detail and cohesiveness?



    Listen, I love Apple, I love their products, at home we have an iPad, and iPod, two MacBook Pros, and AppleTV, an iPhone 5 and I just got the 6. I love Apple, but anyone that cares about the way Apple does implementation and cares about their care for attention to detail can see that their main issue right now is quality control with iOS. They are losing their touch on UX with iOS... since the release of iOS 7. Don't get me wrong, I love all the new features, but I'm not liking the lack of cohesiveness and the lack of attention to detail Apple used to be all about. It's not just about the features but about the implementation of features... It's all about implementation...



    There, soapbox over.



    I knew bashing iOS 7 looks & feels is kinda old but I couldn't agree more with you, with many more reasons to back it up. Let just say that once I saw Apple Watch interface in iPhone event I felt such a relief. It's a hard proof that Apple can design great interface again. (I'm still 50-50 with Yosemite)

    I only hope Jony Ive'll look closely at what he did (or approved) with iOS 7 now that's the watch interface is out and get back to correct many of its shortcomings since I love most of the new features.

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