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  • Reply 61 of 95
    To me. this is an amazing capability of Apple's 3D map tech -- that they should exploit ... For example, it is almost impossible to get a full frontal of St. Patrick's Cathedral (am I allowed to say that?) because of interveningbuildings. I think the maps app could allow you to draw a geo-fence around St. Patrick's (in our example) -- then allow you to pan/zoom/rotate and change the camera (viewer's) position -- but not render any tiles outside the geo-fence ... you'd be able to do a virtual 360-degree round-about tour that is impossible to do by other means.


    Here's an example -- This is as close as I could get to a full frontal without eliminating buildings by geo-fencing:

    <img alt="" class="lightbox-enabled" data-id="51134" data-type="61" src="http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/51134/width/500/height/1000/flags/LL" style="; width: 500px; height: 485px"

    I think that this should be common sense for both city tours (where the point is to see the landmarks) and for individual buildings when they are the subject of a search or the start/endpoint of directions, certainly! Otherwise it makes sense to render everything as-is.

    Yes, Both! I see geo-fencing as an option -- as a search option (as you suggest) or a user-defined selection.

    Apple's Preview app has annotation tools (shown in the image). These include: Oval, Rectangle, Pen and Text.

    If maps had these tools, a user could display a 2D Hybrid view of St. Patricks -- then use the rectangle, oval or pen tool to draw a geo-fence around St. Patricks:

    1000


    Then explore in 3D at your pleasure!
  • Reply 62 of 95
    Hopefully IBM won't turn around and partner with Google down the road too in the name of openness or some such crap. I hope Tim has them contractually sewn up tighter than a duck's ass. Apple are in the driving seat now.

    Since IBM just sold off their chip making business, maybe an Apple acquisition is really in the works? Imagine Apple buying IBM... That's one way to instantly own the enterprise business.

    Actually IBM paid GF $1.5 Billion to buy their chip business ;)

    Apple could buy IBM:

    IBM Employees: 431,212 (2013)

    IBM Market Cap: $164 Billion


    But, I don't think they want to ... I, personally, don't think they should!

    For one thing, two totally different cultures -- two totally different markets!

    Another thing -- those 400,000 employees have vested retirement benefits.


    Yes, there could/can be spillover benefits between consumer and enterprise -- but I believe that can be better address by a partnership rather than an acquisition/merger.
  • Reply 63 of 95
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    One, oddity though, is the maps program. With the display set at retina, I started the 3D Flyover tour of San Francisco -- with 11ac, it can [mostly] keep up with tile retrieval -- but it strobes noticeably -- everything from Giant's Stadium, downtown/Transamerica building, to the Embarcadero ... It appears to be panning too fast to keep up with rendering the large amount of pixels.

    Aside: I did a retina flyover tour of NYC and, frequently, maps could not render the tiles fast enough ...

    Strange that the iMac can't keep up, though it could be due to your connection. Having .11ac doesn't matter, the bottleneck usually is the Internet connection. But I presume you are on a fast link as you are in a large city, or should I say great city(?)

    I presume you know of this site, which lists flyover cities?
    http://flyovercities.com

    Pity they aren't hyperlinked so you'll need to ?c/?V or type yourself. Oh, another handy tool is the remap Safari extension; it'll default to Apple Maps instead of Google lol
    http://sidetree.com/extensions.html#ReMap

    And BIG thanks for the reminder on Peter Sellers, truly a classic!

    Apple could buy IBM:

    IBM Employees: 431,212 (2013)

    IBM Market Cap: $164 Billion


    But, I don't think they want to ... I, personally, don't think they should!

    Neither do I. Whatever their products, they have no experience with such an amount of employees, which might be difficult to 'manage'.
  • Reply 64 of 95
    philboogie wrote: »
    One, oddity though, is the maps program. With the display set at retina, I started the 3D Flyover tour of San Francisco -- with 11ac, it can [mostly] keep up with tile retrieval -- but it strobes noticeably -- everything from Giant's Stadium, downtown/Transamerica building, to the Embarcadero ... It appears to be panning too fast to keep up with rendering the large amount of pixels.

    Aside: I did a retina flyover tour of NYC and, frequently, maps could not render the tiles fast enough ...

    Strange that the iMac can't keep up, though it could be due to your connection. Having .11ac doesn't matter, the bottleneck usually is the Internet connection. But I presume you are on a fast link as you are in a large city, or should I say great city(?)

    It was about midnight and ATT averse seemed to keep up -- very seldom displayed a missing tile [grid].

    About 60 miles East of SF.

    I presume you know of this site, which lists flyover cities?
    http://flyovercities.com

    Pity they aren't hyperlinked so you'll need to ?c/?V or type yourself. Oh, another handy tool is the remap Safari extension; it'll default to Apple Maps instead of Google lol
    http://sidetree.com/extensions.html#ReMap

    Yeah, I know the site ... but, I was looking for cities with automatic 3D Flyover Tours.

    No Chicago, No LA ... but Tulsa and Modesto ... Modesto ... Really?

    Thanks for the extension link -- great!

    And BIG thanks for the reminder on Peter Sellers, truly a classic!

    Apple could buy IBM:

    IBM Employees: 431,212 (2013)

    IBM Market Cap: $164 Billion


    But, I don't think they want to ... I, personally, don't think they should!

    Neither do I. Whatever their products, they have no experience with such an amount of employees, which might be difficult to 'manage'.

    Apple has 80,300 employees 1/5 the number of IBM.

    This says it all:

    1000


    Finally, walking out the door on his way to school -- my 14-year-old grandson said:

    "I finally figured out how to spell plagiarism ... well, I copied Bobby, actually ...".
  • Reply 65 of 95
    It was about midnight and ATT averse seemed to keep up -- very seldom displayed a missing tile [grid].

    Ah, ok. Well, i that case it's OSX. The more I'm using 10.10 the more things I find 'strange:

    Opening a .pdf in Preview from Safari...I can't send it to iBooks, need to do it 'all manually'. All the while there's a Share button right in the toolbar.
    Yeah, I know the site ... but, I was looking for cities with automatic 3D Flyover Tours.

    Supposedly it was a feature in earlier betas, though I can't vouch for the accuracy of anything on that site:

    http://www.macrumors.com/2014/09/07/flyover-city-tours/

    Finally, walking out the door on his way to school -- my 14-year-old grandson said:

    "I finally figured out how to spell plagiarism ... well, I copied Bobby, actually ...".

    LOL!
  • Reply 67 of 95
    philboogie wrote: »


    Ha!

    I think you done broke the code ...

    This forum is "IBM's first enterprise apps for iPad to launch next month as iPad reaches 90 percent tablet share in U.S education"


    And the Apple Maps app is the key!

    Those 413,000 IBM employees worldwide ... Why they are all going to get a $10 bonus for each valid correction they submit to Apple Maps data :D

    Odd ... I just noticed that there is no way to report a probleem with the OSX Apple Maps app :???:
  • Reply 68 of 95
    I think you done broke the code ...

    This forum is "IBM's first enterprise apps for iPad to launch next month as iPad reaches 90 percent tablet share in U.S education"

    Oops, sorry mods, I got hooked on the Maps app
    Odd ... I just noticed that there is no way to report a probleem with the OSX Apple Maps app :???:

    http://www.apple.com/feedback/maps_mac.html
  • Reply 69 of 95
    I suspect that Apple and IBM will share ownership of any jointly-developed IP -- including enhancements to hardware and system system software. I suspect both IBM and Apple will write apps based on that IP.

    The most exciting Apple enterprise app is currently disguised as a consumer app -- Apple Pay ... Think about it!

    As to Google -- no advantage to IBM there -- inferior hardware, OS, ecosystem ...

    Unless, IBM has completely changed -- they don't offer alternative [competitive] choices ... the entré to their services is the iPad hardware/apps -- why waste time and $ on unnecessary, likely unprofitable diversion?
    Aren't IBM and Microsoft direct competitors for the services market -- including things like Azure?

    Also, I am certain that an alliance of Apple/MS/IBM would draw the attention of Justice!


    Finally, in answer to both your concerns -- remember the elephant in the room -- Swift.

    Swift is the vehicle (on top of iOS and OS X APIs *) that IBM and Apple will use to deliver enterprise solutions.

    * things like Continuity, Extensions ... those things are there for a purpose -- and it ain't just for consumer apps!


    Just off the top of your head, who do you think will be one of the first developers with access to Apple Pay APIs?

    Why, IBM of course! Think about IBM's contacts in retail, banking and credit card companies ...


    Anyway, Swift is a real biggie here -- and neither Google nor MS has anything close (including the underlying infrastructure).

    Yes, Both! I see geo-fencing as an option -- as a search option (as you suggest) or a user-defined selection.

    Apple's Preview app has annotation tools (shown in the image). These include: Oval, Rectangle, Pen and Text.

    If maps had these tools, a user could display a 2D Hybrid view of St. Patricks -- then use the rectangle, oval or pen tool to draw a geo-fence around St. Patricks:

    1000


    Then explore in 3D at your pleasure!

    If I understand things correctly, with Yosemite the tools you're talking about are universally called Markup, and it is one of the new "extensions"*** that can be used by many different apps... so why not Maps?

    Good idea... and it was obvious that wasn't his dog...! :D

    *** If you haven't already, John Siracusa's Yosemite review is a must read.
  • Reply 70 of 95
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member

    Remember the movie, "When Harry Met Sally"?

    Sure, I visit the deli in the fake orgasm scene several times a year.
  • Reply 71 of 95
    I suspect that Apple and IBM will share ownership of any jointly-developed IP -- including enhancements to hardware and system system software. I suspect both IBM and Apple will write apps based on that IP.

    The most exciting Apple enterprise app is currently disguised as a consumer app -- Apple Pay ... Think about it!

    As to Google -- no advantage to IBM there -- inferior hardware, OS, ecosystem ...

    Unless, IBM has completely changed -- they don't offer alternative [competitive] choices ... the entré to their services is the iPad hardware/apps -- why waste time and $ on unnecessary, likely unprofitable diversion?
    Aren't IBM and Microsoft direct competitors for the services market -- including things like Azure?

    Also, I am certain that an alliance of Apple/MS/IBM would draw the attention of Justice!


    Finally, in answer to both your concerns -- remember the elephant in the room -- Swift.

    Swift is the vehicle (on top of iOS and OS X APIs *) that IBM and Apple will use to deliver enterprise solutions.

    * things like Continuity, Extensions ... those things are there for a purpose -- and it ain't just for consumer apps!


    Just off the top of your head, who do you think will be one of the first developers with access to Apple Pay APIs?

    Why, IBM of course! Think about IBM's contacts in retail, banking and credit card companies ...


    Anyway, Swift is a real biggie here -- and neither Google nor MS has anything close (including the underlying infrastructure).

    If you haven't guessed... I like to make wild-eyed predictions, even though they're many times from snippets of info that I keep, like this article at ARS:

    Microsoft “loves Linux” as it makes Azure bigger, better -- 11 million servers, new giant VMs, and more third-party app support.

    Linux, the stepchild of UNIX... which puts Microsoft's embracing it all the more curious and intriguing. I've said for years that MS must drop the NT kernel at some point. We all know that's not going to happen soon with desktops (consumers), but back-end servers and enterprise tech they can do what they want to in their playground. Finally aligning to UNIX which Apple and IBM are both built uon would be an interesting developement for MS, rather than pushing that nasty old kernel forever, wouldn't you say?****

    Actually... I wasn't hypothesizing on "all of MS", just the juicy parts and partnerships that fit. We know who's in the driver seat here, so it's the Apple Way or the highway footpath. We also know that Apple and MS have been cozy for a while now with search services, and a rather successful launch of Office for iOS. They're surely working closer together than in the past, or that many of us or MS's very own fans realize.

    I believe it was @PhilBoogie that made the tart reply to my post that most of Microsoft's software is torrented world wide, and that at most worth maybe USD30.-. Well their very own users are already B-n-M'ing and working up a ruckus to get MS to give out Windows 10 for free to all those guinea pigs that jumped on Win8. Should or could MS be brave enough, to actually do that (make Windows free?)... knowing full well that the real "money making" is behind the scenes with cloud subscriptions and services... and getting a little piece of the Apple/IBM pie, no matter what it takes? It's also fact at this point where the moneyed demographic is... so just like pulling a $100 bill on a fishing line... Apple reels MS in? More importantly, who's a more trusted OEM these days for Windows computers services and office software?

    Fun speculation at least.

    2 questions:

    1) Why would justice step in? Again, I'm only speculating on partnerships and specialty service agreements.

    2) What services specifically overlap with Azure and IBM? I was of the impression that IBM Big Iron/backend hardware, and Microsoft Azure services coexist quite well already. I wasn't thinking beyond that.

    Gotta say... that idea of Apple buying IBM is down right preposterous. No reason to when you have them all eating out of the palm of your hand.

    *** Edited: sentence went missing.
  • Reply 72 of 95
    "We forged a landmark <a href="http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/07/17/what-apple-inc-gets-from-its-new-ios-partnership-with-ibm">partnership</a> with IBM to provide a new generation of Mobile enterprise applications designed with our products' legendary ease of use and backed by IBM's cloud services and data analytics," Tim Cook stated in his prepared opening remarks.

    "Our partnership aims to redefine the way work gets done, address key industry mobility challenges, and spark true mobile led business change. Developer teams have been working closely to develop the first wave of Mobile First solutions and these solutions will be ready for customers beginning next month, across six sectors: banking, government, insurance, retail, travel and transportation, and telecommunications."
    .

    Easter Eggs or something more ...

    I just searched OSX Apple Maps for Stonehenge * ...

    If you tap info on the dropped pin it gives you a button for an ad hoc 3D Flyover Tour of Stonehenge only


    * Stonehenge came to mind because it was shown as a 3D background for the @PhilBoogie link to get your business on Apple Maps.


    Then I tried Eiffel Tower, Transamerica, Cologne Cathedral, St Peter's Basilica ... same thing ...

    What's going on?

    Then Notre Dame Cathedral, Arc De Triomphe -- no luck?

    Tried some of these on the iPhone 6 plus ... nah!

    Then I noticed that the ad hoc 3D Flyover Tours were different tour paths than the City 3D Flyover Tours.

    Apple is doing something with their 3D Mapping tech ...

    If you surf, you can find links for several recent key Apple hires for maps and search from Nokia, Google, Amazon ...

    The "travel and transportation" mention of IBM apps says volumes.


    So, now, look at this:

    1000

    This is a truncated portion of a map showing Barthelona ... What's of interest are the little ad hoc flyover windows -- if you click "Flyover Tour" on any of these, you immediately start the ad hoc flyover tour for that location on the underlying map! These windows stay open so you can bounce back and forth among any of the tours.

    Imagine a travel agent in his office with an iMac (or in your home with a MacBook) planning the itinerary for your grand tour, river cruise ... and then pushing those to your iPad (you're the customer).


    ... no ad hoc full frontal of St Pat's tho :\


    Then there's this old story about the novice priest who was nervous about giving hist first sermon. An elderly priest said: "When I get nervous, I just take a sip from the glass I bring to the podium. It looks like water, but it's really vodka -- but no one will know the difference."

    So the young priest gives his sermon ...

    The elderly priest says:

    "Son, you did a wonderful job ... but I have 2 small suggestions:

    1) Cain slew Abel -- he didn't beat the shit out of him ...

    2) The special event we're hosting next week is a taffy pull at St. Peters ..."
  • Reply 73 of 95

    If I understand things correctly, with Yosemite the tools you're talking about are universally called Markup, and it is one of the new "extensions"*** that can be used by many different apps... so why not Maps?

    Good idea... and it was obvious that wasn't his dog...! :D

    *** If you haven't already, John Siracusa's Yosemite review is a must read.

    I think that you're right about the Markup extension ...

    Well, maybe not obvious to him ... perhaps he had recently bimped his head :D

    I started on the Siracusa review ... excellent, but long ...
  • Reply 74 of 95
    I suspect that Apple and IBM will share ownership of any jointly-developed IP -- including enhancements to hardware and system system software. I suspect both IBM and Apple will write apps based on that IP.

    The most exciting Apple enterprise app is currently disguised as a consumer app -- Apple Pay ... Think about it!

    As to Google -- no advantage to IBM there -- inferior hardware, OS, ecosystem ...

    Unless, IBM has completely changed -- they don't offer alternative [competitive] choices ... the entré to their services is the iPad hardware/apps -- why waste time and $ on unnecessary, likely unprofitable diversion?
    Aren't IBM and Microsoft direct competitors for the services market -- including things like Azure?

    Also, I am certain that an alliance of Apple/MS/IBM would draw the attention of Justice!


    Finally, in answer to both your concerns -- remember the elephant in the room -- Swift.

    Swift is the vehicle (on top of iOS and OS X APIs *) that IBM and Apple will use to deliver enterprise solutions.

    * things like Continuity, Extensions ... those things are there for a purpose -- and it ain't just for consumer apps!


    Just off the top of your head, who do you think will be one of the first developers with access to Apple Pay APIs?

    Why, IBM of course! Think about IBM's contacts in retail, banking and credit card companies ...


    Anyway, Swift is a real biggie here -- and neither Google nor MS has anything close (including the underlying infrastructure).

    If you haven't guessed... I like to make wild-eyed predictions, even though they're many times from snippets of info that I keep, like this article at ARS:

    Microsoft “loves Linux” as it makes Azure bigger, better -- 11 million servers, new giant VMs, and more third-party app support.

    I've been known to make wiled predictions, myself -- keeps the blood churning through the brain :D

    But, if not here ,,, Where?
    Linux, the stepchild of UNIX... which puts Microsoft's embracing it all the more curious and intriguing. I've said for years that MS must drop the NT kernel at some point. We all know that's not going to happen soon with desktops (consumers), but back-end servers and enterprise tech they can do what they want to in their playground. Finally aligning to UNIX which Apple and IBM are both built uon would be an interesting developement for MS, rather than pushing that nasty old kernel forever, wouldn't you say?****

    Actually... I wasn't hypothesizing on "all of MS", just the juicy parts and partnerships that fit. We know who's in the driver seat here, so it's the Apple Way or the highway footpath. We also know that Apple and MS have been cozy for a while now with search services, and a rather successful launch of Office for iOS. They're surely working closer together than in the past, or that many of us or MS's very own fans realize.

    The 'Nix interest by MS is interesting ... as is the fact they got Office running on ARM iOS 'Nix -- and never got it to run on the ARM Surface OS -- whatever abortion that was!
    I believe it was @PhilBoogie that made the tart reply to my post that most of Microsoft's software is torrented world wide, and that at most worth maybe USD30.-. Well their very own users are already B-n-M'ing and working up a ruckus to get MS to give out Windows 10 for free to all those guinea pigs that jumped on Win8. Should or could MS be brave enough, to actually do that (make Windows free?)... knowing full well that the real "money making" is behind the scenes with cloud subscriptions and services... and getting a little piece of the Apple/IBM pie, no matter what it takes? It's also fact at this point where the moneyed demographic is... so just like pulling a $100 bill on a fishing line... Apple reels MS in? More importantly, who's a more trusted OEM these days for Windows computers services and office software?

    Fun speculation at least.

    2 questions:

    1) Why would justice step in? Again, I'm only speculating on partnerships and specialty service agreements.

    3 major Tech companies in partnership -- smells like restraint of trade ...

    To me the word partnership connotes a joint effort for a common goal (products and/or services, in this case)

    In the past, Apple and MS have had arrangements and agreements -- but I don't recall them ever working together in a joint effort that I would call a partnership.

    That's not to say, that MS couldn't make a separate agreement with Apple or IBM to market each other's complementary products or services ... Then either member of the Apple/IBM partnership could access the MS products and services.

    It may be just a matter of semantics ... but industry leaders should be watchful that they don't give give the appearance of violating monopoly and retraint of trade laws.
    2) What services specifically overlap with Azure and IBM? I was of the impression that IBM Big Iron/backend hardware, and Microsoft Azure services coexist quite well already. I wasn't thinking beyond that.

    II am not current on the service offerings of either IBM or MS -- [maybe incorrectly] I assumed that they are in competition with their services.
    Gotta say... that idea of Apple buying IBM is down right preposterous. No reason to when you have them all eating out of the palm of your hand.

    *** Edited: sentence went missing.
  • Reply 75 of 95
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    No doubt some of these features on my wish list might be considered advanced but be able to run more than one program in the background is defiantly something a lot of people need. Just the other day I was playing around with a DJ app that was able to take songs from Spotify and mix them. Great little app I though, I spent a good hour making a Beatles MegaMix, I thought I would listen to it while I program, when I minimized the app the music stop playing, aaahhh, frustrating as all hell. This wasn't a professional app by any measure of the definition however I could defiantly see the need to want to listen to your mix's while your do something else. There are lot's of examples like this, instead I get comments, not talking to you here Doc, what you need is a Mac Book or a Surface, I have both of those, I want an iPad with better multitasking, this doesn't mean I'm a Troll, I bought a new iPad, in fact I'm buying two more because I can't run all my music creation apps at once.



    Hey Doc, yea I just went ahead and pulled the trigger on the keyboard, it's going to help a lot while I'm still stuck in bed, I can't wait, right now I'm just using my MS Wedge Keyboard.




    I definitely think that at some point soon... maybe iOS 9 they will make the jump to multitasking. Maybe even sooner (WWDC 2015?...sooner?) if that 12-13" iPad is in the works as rumored.



    Apple as big as they are... I think are still a bit thin with engineers with all of the projects they have going on at the moment. They're taking the battle to their competitors with a cohesive hardware/software desktop, mobile and ecosystem strategy, that if you list all of the things they are doing... and doing better than any other one tech company on the planet... it really becomes quite mind-boggling.



    That there are some things not making a due date until absolutely ready... and still small hiccups along the way with the things that do, tells me the entire Apple team is working flat out pedal to the metal. I personally think it's better to get things right, before doing things too soon and becoming like the other guys. The big iPhones is a case in point.



    Glad to hear about the iPad case order... and of course you'll be sure to give us all a great review of an Apple-centric product just as you do for those other fun toys from the "Other Guys".... right? image

     

    I agree with your point about big iPhones. Ive took his eye off the ball with those.

     

    They're too stretched, like Gollum.

     

    Edit: I was making a point about Apple, but the same applies to the iPhones, too. The mind works in mysterious ways.

  • Reply 76 of 95
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    I haven't used any musical apps, no. But I do get Relic's point on wanting to touch the screen as the 'workflow' is so much easier with these music creation apps.

    She's anything but a troll. She appreciates tech, likes gadgets and gives many insightful posts on stuff I never heard of before.

    Yes please Relic, give us your unbiased review of that Clam.

    She did fantastic doing that scene!

    I think the consumer market does very little to their revenue. A Windows license is something like $30 for OEMs. And I would assume much of their software is simply a torrent from a legal copy someone brought home from work.



    Yes, I can envision what you write here, and this could be executed quite well by them. If you look at Azure; seems to be a solid product/service. Their Machine Learning looks promising:

    http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/services/machine-learning/





    http://video.ch9.ms/ch9/7557/1f9db43b-925b-4012-8e6c-f5d9813c7557/MachineLearning_mid.mp4




    Thanks for the links... I'll have to look at them later because I'm having what Meg had*..... image









    *Lunch image

     

     

    I don't personally make a habit of having fake orgasms with my lunch.

     

    Enjoy yours!

  • Reply 77 of 95
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    Hopefully IBM won't turn around and partner with Google down the road too in the name of openness or some such crap. I hope Tim has them contractually sewn up tighter than a duck's ass. Apple are in the driving seat now.






    I suspect that Apple and IBM will share ownership of any jointly-developed IP -- including enhancements to hardware and system system software. I suspect both IBM and Apple will write apps based on that IP.



    The most exciting Apple enterprise app is currently disguised as a consumer app -- Apple Pay ... Think about it!



    As to Google -- no advantage to IBM there -- inferior hardware, OS, ecosystem ...



    Unless, IBM has completely changed -- they don't offer alternative [competitive] choices ... the entré to their services is the iPad hardware/apps -- why waste time and $ on unnecessary, likely unprofitable diversion?

     
    Quote:

    You know what I think is far more likely?



    A tighter working alliance with Microsoft, their Azure platform... and Microsoft finally seeing the writing on the wall and developing best in class software utilizing both IBM's and Apple's strengths to deliver backend services and efficient front-end software. They are currently constrained by a very vocal and vociferous consumer user base, that is not making them the money that they envision is there right to access, nor are any of their investments going to be fruitful for now or in the future.



    An enterprise triage and fusion of strengths. One the other hand, if you're in the Google camp cursed as....... an Unholy Alliance of _____ (fill in the blank).




    Aren't IBM and Microsoft direct competitors for the services market -- including things like Azure?



    Also, I am certain that an alliance of Apple/MS/IBM would draw the attention of Justice!





    Finally, in answer to both your concerns -- remember the elephant in the room -- Swift.



    Swift is the vehicle (on top of iOS and OS X APIs *) that IBM and Apple will use to deliver enterprise solutions.



    * things like Continuity, Extensions ... those things are there for a purpose -- and it ain't just for consumer apps!





    Just off the top of your head, who do you think will be one of the first developers with access to Apple Pay APIs?



    Why, IBM of course! Think about IBM's contacts in retail, banking and credit card companies ...





    Anyway, Swift is a real biggie here -- and neither Google nor MS has anything close (including the underlying infrastructure).

     

     

    I guess you could say that Swift is in line to swallow the competition.

  • Reply 78 of 95
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    To me. this is an amazing capability of Apple's 3D map tech -- that they should exploit ... For example, it is almost impossible to get a full frontal of St. Patrick's Cathedral (am I allowed to say that?) because of interveningbuildings. I think the maps app could allow you to draw a geo-fence around St. Patrick's (in our example) -- then allow you to pan/zoom/rotate and change the camera (viewer's) position -- but not render any tiles outside the geo-fence ... you'd be able to do a virtual 360-degree round-about tour that is impossible to do by other means.





    Here's an example -- This is as close as I could get to a full frontal without eliminating buildings by geo-fencing:







    I think that this should be common sense for both city tours (where the point is to see the landmarks) and for individual buildings when they are the subject of a search or the start/endpoint of directions, certainly! Otherwise it makes sense to render everything as-is.




    Yes, Both! I see geo-fencing as an option -- as a search option (as you suggest) or a user-defined selection.



    Apple's Preview app has annotation tools (shown in the image). These include: Oval, Rectangle, Pen and Text.



    If maps had these tools, a user could display a 2D Hybrid view of St. Patricks -- then use the rectangle, oval or pen tool to draw a geo-fence around St. Patricks:









    Then explore in 3D at your pleasure!

     

     

    Word of warning: don't draw rounded rectangles, or you may have lawyers knocking on your door (with square corners).

  • Reply 79 of 95
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    Strange that the iMac can't keep up, though it could be due to your connection. Having .11ac doesn't matter, the bottleneck usually is the Internet connection. But I presume you are on a fast link as you are in a large city, or should I say great city(?)

     

     

    Great city? 

     

    Your sycophancy is grating.

  • Reply 80 of 95
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member

    I don't personally make a habit of having fake orgasms with my lunch.

    Enjoy yours!

    You've obviously never had the pastrami at Katz's.;)
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