Yeah I ran into a timeout when I tried to update one of 'em. I think I'll wait until Photos comes out in a couple months. Plus my wife has a 4 and I'm not sure how it's all going to work with that device, if she'll even be able to access the cloud stuff from her phone if all the others are upgraded. I might just keep them all at 7. F it.
Exactly. I've taken to referring to the 64-bit Macs hampered by a 32-bit EFI as "64-bit dirty". Nice reference to the old days, I'm looking at my SE/30 as I type this.
ahh - thought it was something like that.
I'm going to hack my MacPro 1,1 to run Yosemite next week.
There's still some life in the old girl yet !
Have they done a Yosemite hack yet? I too have a 1,1 as my desktop, upgraded it to 10GB RAM and put a GTX550Ti in it this year. Runs everything I throw at it, still just on 10.7 though.
Mavericks offered nothing of value, except for numerous bugs in mail that took 3 to 4 patches to almost get right. Yosemite with Continuity make the upgrade worth it. Nice to be able to answer the iPhone or make calls if the phone is in the other room. I avoided Mavericks and tested Yosemite on an external drive for a few days, to make sure Mail was stable. One downside is the loss of iMovie HD 6, which no longer works. But an external drive with Snow Leopard always solves that problem. Yahoo Messenger is also dead, but I guess Messages can substitute that. Not a fan of Safari since the clear history command now wipes out all web data...thanks for that one Apple. Now you have to view history, then delete the entries if you wanted to clear your history list. Other than that, it is pretty stable and all major apps work well.
"Have they done a Yosemite hack yet? I too have a 1,1 as my desktop, upgraded it to 10GB RAM and put a GTX550Ti in it this year. Runs everything I throw at it, still just on 10.7 though."
Yep - Theyve been busy ! Mavs hacks have been out for over a year and were quite involved.
They've really errr, streamlined the process now. Not that I recommend this type of thing. Mines like yours probably - runs smooth as silk. I put the Radeon 5770 in - yeah I'm a cheapass ! Doesn't matter so long as you've got a 64 bit card in you're ok to give it a go.
Yeah I ran into a timeout when I tried to update one of 'em. I think I'll wait until Photos comes out in a couple months. Plus my wife has a 4 and I'm not sure how it's all going to work with that device, if she'll even be able to access the cloud stuff from her phone if all the others are upgraded. I might just keep them all at 7. F it.
Of course it's on their side. I've downloaded Yosemite in multiple locations, times, and on multiple networks and providers. It has been insanely fast each and every time, usually saturating the connection. I very much doubt these niche cases are having an effect on adoption.
Not necessarily. If the DLs are coming from various partners servers around the world it could very well be slow (or fail completely) for a variety of reasons while working perfectly and quickly for others. And that's without considering all the ISPs between the Mac App Store Server for Yosemite and one's last mile ISP. Without extensive testing of a route a network is taking there is simply no way to tell where the fault might reside, and rarely does own up to a problem, even if their phone support are even aware, which really only happens if there is a major outage.
Upgraded 27" i7 iMac (2009) and Macbook Air (2010) over Mavericks with no problem. Big fan of Yosemite's GUI. A vast improvement over Mavericks which I always considered in Beta. Neither of my Macs do handoff but I'm getting the i7 Retina 5K soon.
Hey, I NEVER recommend anything but re-format and install method. Backup up EVERYTHING in your Users folder EXCEPT the Library folder. Export your Bookmarks from Safari (If you don't use iCloud for bookmarks), And Take screen shots of your email settings in mail using the "Grab" app in your utilities folder. If you are not using iCloud to sync your address book or Contacts then you can also export their information as well.
This is the most important part... You will need either the install discs, or downloaded installers with install codes for ANY software you have that was NOT downloaded from the App Store. App Store purchased software can be re-downloaded on the new system, once you log into your account with your Apple ID. If you do not have your installers WITH license codes you cannot upgrade in this way. You will have to either stay with your slower system, stay in Mavericks, or re-purchase the software you need once your new system is up and running.
One of the nice things about using iCloud for Calendar and Address book is that once you sign into iCloud with the new system, it will automatically give you all your address and Calendars. If you haven't set up iCloud for those items, then you can still enable this feature before you upgrade saving you the trouble. I might add that if you have your mail set up (in my case Google, and other online accounts), with imap, once you restore your email's settings all your emails and mailboxes will appear. This is why I moved to iMap and used Gmail as my primary email, though you can use almost Any web-based provider in this fashion from with in Mac's Mail program.
IMAP is great because it means whatever you have online is mirrored on your computer, and vice versa. If you sort an email into a folder on an IMAP account in Mail, if you log in online it will have been moved to the same folder.
Now, there is one folder you CAN grab from your Library folder and that's the folder called "Mail". You can try to replace the newer folder in Yosemite in the same location by the same name. If you can't see you users folder, press the option key and select "Go" from the finder menu. You will then see the library folder. From that finder window copy your mail folder. You will use this ONLY if you aren' table to get it up and running.
If you use iCloud already then you already have an IMAP account with them, and almost any ISP now offers this service. If all your email is online then you won't loose your messages. The most difficult task is setting up the email account's this way but if you are syncing your bookmarks, contacts, and appointments through iCloud, the only other thing you will need is your documents (everything in your users folder EXCEPT the library folder)
It's not that hard to do this, but I would be prepared to set aside at least 2-4 hours (although there is a lot of downtown between while you are waiting for things to install). It's worth it to me because you get a VERY speedy system that feels new and ready to be used. The process is the same as if you were getting a new computer.
Installed over Mavericks on MacBook Pro early-2011, working great albeit with a few minor glitches here and there. Love the interface and features are great!
I'm a 22 year Apple Customer... Yosemite is the best operating system yet. Seriously.
Answering my iPhone call on my Mac and my iPad is just fucking cool. Yes. That feature is a showstopper.
Now getting SMS for all text messages on my iPhone iPad and Mac is another awesome feature.
Love the clean interface.
And yea. These features just "worked" as advertised. Flawless in fact. ????
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Update using iTunes for your phones and ipads
Yeah I ran into a timeout when I tried to update one of 'em. I think I'll wait until Photos comes out in a couple months. Plus my wife has a 4 and I'm not sure how it's all going to work with that device, if she'll even be able to access the cloud stuff from her phone if all the others are upgraded. I might just keep them all at 7. F it.
Exactly. I've taken to referring to the 64-bit Macs hampered by a 32-bit EFI as "64-bit dirty". Nice reference to the old days, I'm looking at my SE/30 as I type this.
I'm going to hack my MacPro 1,1 to run Yosemite next week.
There's still some life in the old girl yet !
Have they done a Yosemite hack yet? I too have a 1,1 as my desktop, upgraded it to 10GB RAM and put a GTX550Ti in it this year. Runs everything I throw at it, still just on 10.7 though.
Mavericks offered nothing of value, except for numerous bugs in mail that took 3 to 4 patches to almost get right. Yosemite with Continuity make the upgrade worth it. Nice to be able to answer the iPhone or make calls if the phone is in the other room. I avoided Mavericks and tested Yosemite on an external drive for a few days, to make sure Mail was stable. One downside is the loss of iMovie HD 6, which no longer works. But an external drive with Snow Leopard always solves that problem. Yahoo Messenger is also dead, but I guess Messages can substitute that. Not a fan of Safari since the clear history command now wipes out all web data...thanks for that one Apple. Now you have to view history, then delete the entries if you wanted to clear your history list. Other than that, it is pretty stable and all major apps work well.
Well shoot. My 2010 MBP doesn't do Handoff.
Yep - Theyve been busy !
Mavs hacks have been out for over a year and were quite involved.
They've really errr, streamlined the process now. Not that I recommend this type of thing.
Mines like yours probably - runs smooth as silk. I put the Radeon 5770 in - yeah I'm a cheapass !
Doesn't matter so long as you've got a 64 bit card in you're ok to give it a go.
Yea - the 4 cant install it. 4s is ok.
I reluctantly downloaded Yosemite.
Sure enough, the crap look of IOS7 looks even crappier on a laptop screen.
I reluctantly downloaded Yosemite.
Sure enough, the crap look of IOS7 looks even crappier on a laptop screen.
Not necessarily. If the DLs are coming from various partners servers around the world it could very well be slow (or fail completely) for a variety of reasons while working perfectly and quickly for others. And that's without considering all the ISPs between the Mac App Store Server for Yosemite and one's last mile ISP. Without extensive testing of a route a network is taking there is simply no way to tell where the fault might reside, and rarely does own up to a problem, even if their phone support are even aware, which really only happens if there is a major outage.
ohh this is good !
Care to enlighten us ?
In your considered opinion , of course.
Upgraded 27" i7 iMac (2009) and Macbook Air (2010) over Mavericks with no problem. Big fan of Yosemite's GUI. A vast improvement over Mavericks which I always considered in Beta. Neither of my Macs do handoff but I'm getting the i7 Retina 5K soon.
Hey, I NEVER recommend anything but re-format and install method. Backup up EVERYTHING in your Users folder EXCEPT the Library folder. Export your Bookmarks from Safari (If you don't use iCloud for bookmarks), And Take screen shots of your email settings in mail using the "Grab" app in your utilities folder. If you are not using iCloud to sync your address book or Contacts then you can also export their information as well.
This is the most important part... You will need either the install discs, or downloaded installers with install codes for ANY software you have that was NOT downloaded from the App Store. App Store purchased software can be re-downloaded on the new system, once you log into your account with your Apple ID. If you do not have your installers WITH license codes you cannot upgrade in this way. You will have to either stay with your slower system, stay in Mavericks, or re-purchase the software you need once your new system is up and running.
One of the nice things about using iCloud for Calendar and Address book is that once you sign into iCloud with the new system, it will automatically give you all your address and Calendars. If you haven't set up iCloud for those items, then you can still enable this feature before you upgrade saving you the trouble. I might add that if you have your mail set up (in my case Google, and other online accounts), with imap, once you restore your email's settings all your emails and mailboxes will appear. This is why I moved to iMap and used Gmail as my primary email, though you can use almost Any web-based provider in this fashion from with in Mac's Mail program.
IMAP is great because it means whatever you have online is mirrored on your computer, and vice versa. If you sort an email into a folder on an IMAP account in Mail, if you log in online it will have been moved to the same folder.
Now, there is one folder you CAN grab from your Library folder and that's the folder called "Mail". You can try to replace the newer folder in Yosemite in the same location by the same name. If you can't see you users folder, press the option key and select "Go" from the finder menu. You will then see the library folder. From that finder window copy your mail folder. You will use this ONLY if you aren' table to get it up and running.
If you use iCloud already then you already have an IMAP account with them, and almost any ISP now offers this service. If all your email is online then you won't loose your messages. The most difficult task is setting up the email account's this way but if you are syncing your bookmarks, contacts, and appointments through iCloud, the only other thing you will need is your documents (everything in your users folder EXCEPT the library folder)
It's not that hard to do this, but I would be prepared to set aside at least 2-4 hours (although there is a lot of downtown between while you are waiting for things to install). It's worth it to me because you get a VERY speedy system that feels new and ready to be used. The process is the same as if you were getting a new computer.
I hope this helps..
I'm a 22 year Apple Customer... Yosemite is the best operating system yet. Seriously.
Answering my iPhone call on my Mac and my iPad is just fucking cool. Yes. That feature is a showstopper.
Now getting SMS for all text messages on my iPhone iPad and Mac is another awesome feature.
Love the clean interface.
And yea. These features just "worked" as advertised. Flawless in fact. ????
Part of the reason maybe that Mavericks wasn't that great a product and people want to move on- at least that was my scenario.
And Yosemite is much much better and recommendable except for the tiny red yellow and green dots..
There is nothing that looks like crap about iOS 7/8, nor Yosemite.
The tiny colored dots are too hard to click on and yes look "crappy". They either need a border or a different hue,