Tim Cook talks Apple Watch, Apple Pay, and IBM partnership at Goldman Sachs conference

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  • Reply 41 of 108
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,449member
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post

    I hope it's smarter than Siri on the iPhone

    What are you talking about? It USES the iPhone!

     

    Siri requires a network connection. Last I checked the ?Watch relies on the iPhone for that. How can Siri be any better on the watch than it is on the iPhone?

  • Reply 42 of 108
    misamisa Posts: 827member
    solipsismy wrote: »
    I said something similar about ?Watch last week. It wasn't received well by those that typically don't want to buy an ?Watch. I say typically, because I have no interest in buying one, but I see where the wearable market is going.
    I hope it's smarter than Siri on the iPhone, and I hope I don't have to wait seconds before making a response after pressing a button or saying "Hey Siri," and getting a response back. In casual speak this is disruptive.

    I think we're all thinking a little too short-sighted. Look at the size of the Apple Watch and now look at the size of the Startrek com badge. Think about what the com badge does.

    At some point I think the geniuses will realize what the real practical application of a watch is, and it's not telling time.
  • Reply 43 of 108
    mac_128 wrote: »
    What are you talking about? It USES the iPhone!

    Siri requires a network connection. Last I checked the ?Watch relies on the iPhone for that. How can Siri be any better on the watch than it is on the iPhone?

    Easily. For starters, letting me start talking my command as soon as I press in the digital crown, not have me long press it and then wait for an audible tone before I start speaking, as is the case with Siri and the Home Button today.
  • Reply 44 of 108
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    Originally Posted by YvesVilleneuve View Post



    The Apple Watch is possibly useful for healthy individuals who want to become primed athletes that compete and useful for truly sick individuals that need constant health vitals monitoring. That's the true market for this watch. Will people buy it as a novelty or believe it may be miracle from God? Yes, but it's just a waste of money on a frivolous item.



    Treadmills and other equipment in gyms have heart rate monitors. That's all the average person needs when they do cardio. If doing cardio outdoors is your preference then your likely more obsessed with the results, such as athletes are. The average person doesn't need a heart rate monitor when completing a weightlifting workout as quickly as one can possibly complete.



    Wrong again.

     

    There's going to be far more to the ?Watch than you mention.

  • Reply 45 of 108
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post



    Poor Cook.



    So the Apple Watch's stand-out feature is reduced to—



    Reminding you to stand up. Woo hoo!



    Cook is busy engaged in damage limitation. By comparing the Apple Watch and the current smartwatch market to the iPod and the music player market, he is effectively saying, "This is a tiny market. Yes, we'll be the best of breed, but don't expect much from us, because there just ain't too many folks who have or want smart watches."



    As the resident bubble-burster of Apple Insider, it gives me no joy to pour cold water on the efforts of good people. One can hardly blame them; after all, they have no Steve Jobs to lead and inspire them, and to see the future.



    The misstep of the Apple Watch will do Apple and Cook good, and for that, I am thankful.



    What a fabricator out of whole cloth you are! Ridiculous.

  • Reply 46 of 108
    Poor Cook.

    So the Apple Watch's stand-out feature is reduced to—

    Reminding you to stand up. Woo hoo!

    Cook is busy engaged in damage limitation. By comparing the Apple Watch and the current smartwatch market to the iPod and the music player market, he is effectively saying, "This is a tiny market. Yes, we'll be the best of breed, but don't expect much from us, because there just ain't too many folks who have or want smart watches."

    As the resident bubble-burster of Apple Insider, it gives me no joy to pour cold water on the efforts of good people. One can hardly blame them; after all, they have no Steve Jobs to lead and inspire them, and to see the future.

    The misstep of the Apple Watch will do Apple and Cook good, and for that, I am thankful.

    HOLY FUCKING SHIT! You've completely gone over to the Troll side. Blocked.
  • Reply 47 of 108
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    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post





    Problem is, the iPhone has replaced music players, iPods and watches. A smartwatch is just one extra redundant device, like a heart rate monitor or a metronome or a timer.



    The Apple watch will be—if it ever gets released—an iPhone accessory. Look at apps. Even the most popular apps on the App Store only get a minute portion of users compared to pre-installed apps. That's why it was so damaging for Google Maps when they went from built-in to an optional download.



    So it is with the Apple Watch. Some will buy it, but it's just another optional extra, not a must have like the iPhone or even the iPad.



    Seems like you might still be around when your dour prognostications are all proven wrong by the stellar success of the ?Apple watch.

     

    I can't wait to pour it on. Won't be much longer.

  • Reply 48 of 108
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,179member
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    Originally Posted by DanielSW View Post

     



    Seems like you might still be around when your dour prognostications are all proven wrong by the stellar success of the ?Apple watch.

     

    I can't wait to pour it on. Won't be much longer.


     

    People like Benjamin Frost are insanely predictable, if nothing else. When the Apple Watch is a massive success, and not a catastrophic failure as he predicts, instead of Tim Cook being the idiot, it will suddenly be everyone who is buying the Apple Watch that is an idiot, a moron, a "sheep"- BF can say, instead of admitting he was wrong, like any self-respecting person who holds himself to account for his own words and predictions. He will just transition his spite and rewrite history, claiming that he never said the Apple Watch wouldnt do well, but just that its a terrible product, and because of it, Apple will eventually derail into irrelevance. Just like, you know, pretty much every Apple troll in existence that has made these predictions for the past couple decades.

  • Reply 49 of 108
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    Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post

     

     

    People like Benjamin Frost are insanely predictable, if nothing else. When the Apple Watch is a massive success, and not a catastrophic failure as he predicts, instead of Tim Cook being the idiot, it will suddenly be everyone who is buying the Apple Watch that is an idiot, a moron, a "sheep"- BF can say, instead of admitting he was wrong, like any self-respecting person who holds himself to account for his own words and predictions. Like a worm, he will just transition his spite and rewrite history, claiming that he never said the Apple Watch wouldnt do well, but just that its a terrible product, and because of it, Apple will eventually derail into irrelevance. Just like, you know, pretty much every Apple troll in existence that has made these predictions for the past couple decades. BF is the epitome of the anonymous internet liar and coward. 


     

    Please describe your interpretation of "massive success".

  • Reply 50 of 108
    Please describe your interpretation of "massive success".

    There are certainly are many ways to measure that. What is the wrist-worn device market for mechanical and electronic devices today in terms of units, revenue, profits, etc.?

    If we used Steve Jobs old 1% of the smartphone unit share after one full year on the market as a measure I think that would be laughable since I would expect ?Watch to have a much higher percentage of the smartwatch market, despite being an accessory device to an iPhone. How about we through in all the health and fitness trackers into that mix since it's also designed to replace those for most people, too. Would that be fair? 1% of all fitness trackers + smart watches after 1 full year on the market?
  • Reply 51 of 108
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    There are certainly are many ways to measure that. What is the wrist-worn device market for mechanical and electronic devices today in terms of units, revenue, profits, etc.?



    If we used Steve Jobs old 1% of the smartphone unit share after one full year on the market as a measure I think that would be laughable since I would expect ?Watch to have a much higher percentage of the smartwatch market, despite being an accessory device to an iPhone. How about we through in all the health and fitness trackers into that mix since it's also designed to replace those for most people, too. Would that be fair? 1% of all fitness trackers + smart watches after 1 full year on the market?

     

    I forgot to add @Slurpy.

     

    Forgive me, but I'm not really interested in your interpretation.

  • Reply 52 of 108
    I forgot to add @Slurpy.

    Forgive me, but I'm not really interested in your interpretation.

    1) Your quoting of his comment was enough to reference that, but this is an open forum. If you don't want others to reply taking it a private message will help facilitate that goal.

    2) What do you think is needed for it to be a success?
  • Reply 53 of 108
    chasmchasm Posts: 1,672member
    the reason you're not seeing the video is that it was a private conference and not televised. Goldman Sachs controls the video rights, but Apple broadcast the audio portion of the speech on its investor relations page, since this pertains to them (and probably to comply with some SEC rules).
  • Reply 54 of 108
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    1) Your quoting of his comment was enough to reference that, but this is an open forum. If you don't want others to reply taking it a private message will help facilitate that goal.



    2) What do you think is needed for it to be a success?

     

    I didn't say that you couldn't reply. I just said that I'm not interested in your interpretation.

  • Reply 55 of 108
    I didn't say that you couldn't reply. I just said that I'm not interested in your interpretation.

    Got it, so it's my interpretation, not others in general.
  • Reply 56 of 108
    chasm wrote: »
    the reason you're not seeing the video is that it was a private conference and not televised. Goldman Sachs controls the video rights, but Apple broadcast the audio portion of the speech on its investor relations page, since this pertains to them (and probably to comply with some SEC rules).

    Thanks.

    Here's the link: http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/15pibuasfvoihbeafv02/event/index.html
  • Reply 57 of 108
    xixo wrote: »
    Only the Chinese employees making them...

    It's because China has employers like Apple that actually, one day, the average person in that country will be able to buy Apple products.

    It's most certainly not because of people like you and your socialist brethren who only want to spread poverty and misery around.
  • Reply 58 of 108
    sflocalsflocal Posts: 4,702member



    Nice try troll... care to come up with something that actually turned out to be real, or will you just continue to post nonsense from folks with an agenda?



    This "story" had zero proof.  It's why it disappeared about as fast as it was published.

  • Reply 59 of 108
    solipsismy wrote: »

    If you still don't think the Mac will continue to get better you're still not paying attention. Apple's traditional "PCs" are going nowhere.

    Hombre, Apple don' make no steekin' PeeCees!
  • Reply 60 of 108
    "What will your verse be?" I wrote that speech for Dead Poets Society, "the project" to me, as a contribution, a freebee, after I learned that the original story which I was helping to fix, ended the film with an adolescent suicide! I even hated that I'd helped them pull the project out of the toilet (it was originally about homosexual teacher-student love or some such), because I just knew that any cinematic portrayal of suicide would only engender further suicides in impressionable teenagers! I was helping my old friend's friends because I loved Spielberg long ago, but also because I wanted to see a difference in this world. Come on, Steve and I set the date for the Berlin Wall to fall 17 years in advance, as a hopefully self-fulfilling prophesy. But Steve's always had a penchant for dangerous behavior in movies: playing with pistols and liquor bottles in Shawshank Redemption or skateboards hanging on cars in BTTF for instances. A local kid was killed recently here in Tampa doing that crazy stunt. (I know Steve's not credited, neither am I.)
    While I was initially thrilled that Apple decided to use my words in their advertising campaign (I thought to myself, out of all the words of beauty and grace from all the tongues and pens of man, Apple chose mine!), I got a little miffed about Apple's using my words against suicide to sell iPads. The iPad's a beautiful machine, but it's still commercial although wonderful. Of course, even commercial use does keep me, my thoughts, alive and living in our history--a good thing. Then I only got short shrift by Apple's legal and executive departments which didn't help. Silence is wrong, particularly against me. I guess everybody who feels cheated by a big company must feel that? I don't know. I wish Apple didn't have that reputation, well earned as I well know, sadly.
    But the truth is, that Steve Jobs liked my stuff on that flick (and doubtless the other speeches and films to which I've contributed out of my friendship with Spielberg. Maybe the Braveheart stuff I thundered at the Clintons, eh? Well, he probably liked the Jedi and The Force, coulda? Or maybe the look I gave my newspaper that grew those flowers in E.T.?)
    I just hate to think that nobody at Apple cares about any of this. Heck I even offered my services, I mean, Stevie left a screenwriter in my boarding house for 9 months. We did Good Will Hunting, Gladiator, DP of course, and he brought in a half dozen "delegations"--I only remember Del Toro, James Cameron, and that poor girl that so screwed up the last Godfather flick--which I'd not seen at the time. It does seem a shame to have inspired or helped to inspire the work ethics of a great American corporation, only to see the toilet close up and blurry. And what is that smell?
    So regrets. Right now I've run a double-blind cross-over t test clinical trial of pheromone for ADHD and IT WORKED! 18 cured kids no longer living with Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, wow, proof at last! Everybody's happy, but I can't afford to run a trial here. The one they just finished, half-fast, was in Assuit Egypt. I have such a big mouth that I can't even hold my research gate dot net account open anymore. Railroaded again. I'm just an easy touch, a jiggle ... on the handle of my life.

    You OK, buddy?
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