Apple Watch battery life reportedly 'much better' than anticipated thanks to power saving features

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  • Reply 81 of 97
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    What evidence is there that it's exactly that way? I don't recall them showing that you authenticate ?Watch each day by using Touch ID on your iPhone. Maybe it'll be that easy, but then couldn't anyone put it on and then get your notifications within BT range.



    Maybe not a huge issue but I'd think that would be some sort of security risk where you could risk people at, home, or other places you travel from potentially seeing your data if there is on-device protection, like with a 4-digit PIN. It's not like the wrist-side sensors will be able to say, "Yes, that's you alright." Would you really want to trust ?Pay on your device like that?



    I just don't see that as the most likely scenario, especially when you consider it can be used independently of having a tethered iPhone present. You have to be able to take it off and put it on, and then use it again.

     

    The watch would continue receiving the notifications until you shut this down manually or automatically (you can choose on set up). Not sure when you'd like to get notification with the watch off, but there are probably a few use cases.

     

    , you can set it up so it will be shut down

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    I am kind of curious about this too. Apple Watch has wifi, so it can theoretically be contacted and found. 

     

    Back to the point of the article, one thing that will come in the few weeks after Apple ships will be reports of bad battery life...because people will be diddling with the things continuously. Once we get its functions sorted out, and decide how we are going to use them, suddenly battery life will improve...because we stopped fiddling with it continuously. Biggest battery drain by far is going to be lighting up the screen.

     

    TechCrunch reported a 2 hour period to recharge Apple Watch completely. This surprises me, and I hope it is much less than that.


     

    With bluetooth 4.2 having IP over bluetooth and much higher throughput, I hope that home routers will soon have it as an option (besides WIFI), as a way to route all IOT connections throughout the house. That way, you could just  put your phone, Ipads anywhere in the house and be able to connect with the watch without worrying about them or your watch.

     

    Since, the watch runs a kind of "remote desktop" (presently having the phone run the watch app), it could also have the mac, or apple TV run very intense apps too. That way, in the house, the watch's own CPU power wouldn't be taxed at all, only the screen would limit battery time. Don't know if there are very low power/high res/high refresh displays in the tech future, but seemingly this is almost as important as improving battery time for mobile devices.

  • Reply 82 of 97
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,039member
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    I like your idea better. That basically sounds like activation lock for ?Watch. The downside I see if that the SIP can be replaced and it's the other components that make up the real expense and resale value of the device.

    Also concur. But it is possible that cracking the case triggers...something...that only an Apple authorized entity can reset.... Dunno. I think Apple could get creative about it. Theft prevention is a Big Deal(tm) to them, so I'm curious. The flip side is that Apple Watch doesn't contain the plethora of personal information that an iPhone does. 

     

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    Originally Posted by foggyhill View Post

     

     

    The watch would continue receiving the notifications until you shut this down manually or automatically (you can choose on set up). Not sure when you'd like to get notification with the watch off, but there are probably a few use cases.

     

    , you can set it up so it will be shut down

     

    With bluetooth 4.2 having IP over bluetooth and much higher throughput, I hope that home routers will soon have it as an option (besides WIFI), as a way to route all IOT connections throughout the house. That way, you could just  put your phone, Ipads anywhere in the house and be able to connect with the watch without worrying about them or your watch.

     

    Since, the watch runs a kind of "remote desktop" (presently having the phone run the watch app), it could also have the mac, or apple TV run very intense apps too. That way, in the house, the watch's own CPU power wouldn't be taxed at all, only the screen would limit battery time. Don't know if there are very low power/high res/high refresh displays in the tech future, but seemingly this is almost as important as improving battery time for mobile devices.


    Intriguing and interesting. I've wondered if Apple might be thinking about a BTLE enabled airport to do this kind of thing.

  • Reply 83 of 97
    nick29nick29 Posts: 111member
    I wonder if you can take a screenshot on the Apple Watch? Based on what I've read I'm not compelled to buy this yet, but I might be convinced. The iPhone already acts as such an amazing computer that complicating things with another device (charging, syncing, etc.) needs to provide a compelling value add. Simply not having to pull my phone out of my pocket to see notifications isn't enough, to reply to those notifications it'll be easier to use the phone anyway. Does the Apple Watch have a tiny pop-up keyboard? That'll be a pain to type on and with one finger.
  • Reply 84 of 97
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    eightzero wrote: »
    Intriguing and interesting. I've wondered if Apple might be thinking about a BTLE enabled airport to do this kind of thing.

    In another thread, after seeing a mockup of the American Airlines ticket info on ?Watch I considered how iBeacons could be used in airports. When you get close to your get ?Watch lets you know. When they call your seating section it alerts you, etc. It's minor, but I think it could be a value-added option.
  • Reply 85 of 97
    pistispistis Posts: 247member
    nick29 wrote: »
    I wonder if you can take a screenshot on the Apple Watch? Based on what I've read I'm not compelled to buy this yet, but I might be convinced. The iPhone already acts as such an amazing computer that complicating things with another device (charging, syncing, etc.) needs to provide a compelling value add. Simply not having to pull my phone out of my pocket to see notifications isn't enough, to reply to those notifications it'll be easier to use the phone anyway. Does the Apple Watch have a tiny pop-up keyboard? That'll be a pain to type on and with one finger.

    You are such a laugh
    Pop up keyboard indeed !

    I think you have been smoking too much weed!
    Screen shot lol


    Next you will be asking if it prints PDFs or even more absurd , can copy and paste or play movies or want it to be able to do Cad design too. My question to you is were you one of those people who expected a tablet to do all the things a pc could do!
  • Reply 86 of 97
    Jony and his socks are super cool. Those who don't think so just have different taste.
  • Reply 87 of 97
    nick29 wrote: »
    I wonder if you can take a screenshot on the Apple Watch? Based on what I've read I'm not compelled to buy this yet, but I might be convinced. The iPhone already acts as such an amazing computer that complicating things with another device (charging, syncing, etc.) needs to provide a compelling value add. Simply not having to pull my phone out of my pocket to see notifications isn't enough, to reply to those notifications it'll be easier to use the phone anyway. Does the Apple Watch have a tiny pop-up keyboard? That'll be a pain to type on and with one finger.

    Yes, all that and a terrible battery life. It'll be the perfect DOOM for Apple¡
  • Reply 88 of 97
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,039member

    I just realized...one thing we should see starting Monday is Apple's TV ads for the watch. 

  • Reply 89 of 97
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    mac_128 wrote: »
    You've never owned a watch that allowed people to see your personal communications, nor respond to them remotely. Will you be able to put a stop to someone doing this while you're asleep? While you're in a meeting and left your watch on its charger? We're not talking about people randomly strapping it on anyway, we're talking about someone intentionally strapping it on to see what you're up to.

    .

    Are you serious? People can take your phone when you leave it unattended or are sleeping.
  • Reply 90 of 97
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    jungmark wrote: »
    Are you serious? People can take your phone when you leave it unattended or are sleeping.

    Gotta love those doom-and-gloom scenarios that make absolutely no sense. So you have someone that straps on you ?Watch while you're sleeping, then authenticates it on your wrist using your iPhone (by putting your finger on Touch ID while you're asleep?), and then somehow then staying within BT range of your iPhone while you're awake so they can eve's drop on your messages without you ever wondering where the **** your ?Watch went to.

    All that and [@]Mac_128[/@] didn't even see that having your iPhone stolen is worse (yet they only want your ?Watch), or that if there are people in your house spying on you while you sleep you have bigger issues to deal with.
  • Reply 91 of 97
    mac_128mac_128 Posts: 3,454member
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    Are you serious? People can take your phone when you leave it unattended or are sleeping.

     

    The argument being made by some is that the ?Watch will automatically authenticate when you strap it onto your wrist as a convenience measure. I see that as a security problem, since it can't possibly know whose wrist it is strapped onto. If someone takes your phone, how will they they unlock it without your fingerprint? If someone straps on your watch, some say it will automatically authenticate and start sending notifications to the watch. So what happens if your child straps on your watch to their wrist while you're sleeping and it auto authenticates, and they see an adult joke, or inappropriate photo your buddy Jim sent you? What happens if they start responding to messages sent from the watch? It's just a toy to them. And many other scenarios. 

     

    The solution may well be a 4 digit code to authenticate the watch when strapped onto the wrist, or as some are stating as fact without any possible knowledge that you will need the phone to authenticate with a fingerprint verification ... another step that has to be taken every time you take the watch off, to charge, or for whatever reason. And if you run out for a meeting, or whatever, without authenticating and forget your phone; then what will the watch do if not near enough to the phone to authenticate with a code (assuming that's even an option)? Will it even tell time then?

     

    I'm just asking questions here, mainly motivated by the limited battery life and need to charge the watch every day, perhaps more frequently depending on use. 

  • Reply 92 of 97
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    eightzero wrote: »
    I just realized...one thing we should see starting Monday is Apple's TV ads for the watch. 

    There's a good chance of that. They won't even have to have that many markets covered with their ads initially, the media will blast it to every corner of the Earth in the first week.
  • Reply 93 of 97
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    mac_128 wrote: »
    The argument being made by some is that the ?Watch will automatically authenticate when you strap it onto your wrist as a convenience measure. I see that as a security problem, since it can't possibly know whose wrist it is strapped onto. If someone takes your phone, how will they they unlock it without your fingerprint? If someone straps on your watch, some say it will automatically authenticate and start sending notifications to the watch. So what happens if your child straps on your watch to their wrist while you're sleeping and it auto authenticates, and they see an adult joke, or inappropriate photo your buddy Jim sent you? What happens if they start responding to messages sent from the watch? It's just a toy to them. And many other scenarios. 

    The solution may well be a 4 digit code to authenticate the watch when strapped onto the wrist, or as some are stating as fact without any possible knowledge that you will need the phone to authenticate with a fingerprint verification ... another step that has to be taken every time you take the watch off, to charge, or for whatever reason. And if you run out for a meeting, or whatever, without authenticating and forget your phone; then what will the watch do if not near enough to the phone to authenticate with a code (assuming that's even an option)? Will it even tell time then?

    I'm just asking questions here, mainly motivated by the limited battery life and need to charge the watch every day, perhaps more frequently depending on use. 

    What? Once the Apple Watch leaves your wrist it will need to be reauthenticated.
  • Reply 94 of 97
    eightzeroeightzero Posts: 3,039member
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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post





    There's a good chance of that. They won't even have to have that many markets covered with their ads initially, the media will blast it to every corner of the Earth in the first week.



    Including right here on AI.

     

    Betcha Tim shows at least one.

     

    Remember when Steve showed a new iPhone commercial....then replayed it for everyone? Haha!

     

    It'd be funny if they remastered the 1984 commercial...and hammer thrower girl is wearing...an apple watch!

  • Reply 95 of 97
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
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    Originally Posted by eightzero View Post

     



    I am kind of curious about this too. Apple Watch has wifi, so it can theoretically be contacted and found. 

     

    Back to the point of the article, one thing that will come in the few weeks after Apple ships will be reports of bad battery life...because people will be diddling with the things continuously. Once we get its functions sorted out, and decide how we are going to use them, suddenly battery life will improve...because we stopped fiddling with it continuously. Biggest battery drain by far is going to be lighting up the screen.

     

    TechCrunch reported a 2 hour period to recharge Apple Watch completely. This surprises me, and I hope it is much less than that.




    I wonder if the heavy metal casing doesn't allow for sufficient heat dissipation that would occur with faster charging? Given heat damages/kills Li batteries they might be hedging their battery life bets by throttling the charge rate? If the rumored time interval is even accurate...

  • Reply 96 of 97
    pistispistis Posts: 247member
    solipsismy wrote: »
    Gotta love those doom-and-gloom scenarios that make absolutely no sense. So you have someone that straps on you ?Watch while you're sleeping, then authenticates it on your wrist using your iPhone (by putting your finger on Touch ID while you're asleep?), and then somehow then staying within BT range of your iPhone while you're awake so they can eve's drop on your messages without you ever wondering where the **** your ?Watch went to.

    All that and [@]Mac_128[/@] didn't even see that having your iPhone stolen is worse (yet they only want your ?Watch), or that if there are people in your house spying on you while you sleep you have bigger issues to deal with.

    Remember when the arguments from trolls, as misguided as they were, actually had some basis in reality? I miss those days.

    Me too the standard of trolling has slipped to new lows, it's not really entertaining , except possibly from mr frosty the depressing Brit limey troll
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