Apple's subscription TV service predicted to cost below $40 to compete with cable providers

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  • Reply 61 of 127
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post

     

    Remember you are comparing the streaming quality with what you get from cable/satellite companies now. Tell you what, their quality is also compressed at around Hulu quality which is 0.65GB/hr. That means you can watch HD video with the same quality as Hulu for 13 hrs/day for 30 days without breaking the cap.




    I'm not sure what "Hulu" quality is since I don't use Hulu (I can't stand ads), but I think that Netflix super HD (which I find to be decent quality) streams at around 6 GB per hour.

  • Reply 62 of 127
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
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    Originally Posted by ltcompuser View Post

     



    10 GB a day is nothing



    10GB a day is nothing.

     

    My children watch Netflix at the highest quality setting. Then there's YouTube. Oh, and if their friends come over on the weekend and binge watch Netflix that's a big surge.

     

    Then I watch training each day through Lynda.com and infinite skills.com plus Netflix. Movies purchased through Apple can be 3-8GB.

     

    We regularly use 600-700GB a month.


    Now, another non-typical user. Sigh. We're talking about typical users which are majority, not data hungers. BTW, Netflix streaming is 3x more bandwidth than Hulu Plus.

  • Reply 63 of 127
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
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    I'm not sure what "Hulu" quality is since I don't use Hulu (I can't stand ads), but I think that Netflix super HD (which I find to be decent quality) streams at around 6 GB per hour.


    Yup, Ultra HD on Netflix can eat up to 7GB/hr, but that's not what you do every day right? If you watch normal TV quality, you're expected to use the same streaming quality which is around 0.7GB/hr from Netflix or 0.65GB/hr from Hulu

  • Reply 64 of 127
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post

     

    Yup, Ultra HD on Netflix can eat up to 7GB/hr, but that's not what you do every day right? If you watch normal TV quality, you're expected to use the same streaming quality which is around 0.7GB/hr from Netflix or 0.65GB/hr from Hulu




    I'm not sure what you mean.

     

    I don't watch Netflix everyday, but when I do watch, I'm going to watch at the highest quality possible.

     

    I don't have any caps on my cable service.

     

    No matter what I am watching, I demand decent quality.

  • Reply 65 of 127
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,054member
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    I'm not sure what you mean.

     

    I don't watch Netflix everyday, but when I do watch, I'm going to watch at the highest quality possible.

     

    I don't have any caps on my cable service.

     

    No matter what I am watching, I demand decent quality.


    Then demand the decent quality from your cable/satellite company because their so called "HD" is actually just 1080i at most, not 1080P. That's the fact. 

    Of course, I watch Netflix at highest quality too since I don't watch it every day.

  • Reply 66 of 127
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post

     

    Then demand the decent quality from your cable/satellite company because their so called "HD" is actually just 1080i at most, not 1080P. That's the fact. 

    Of course, I watch Netflix at highest quality too since I don't watch it every day.




    I think you misunderstood what I meant, or perhaps I misunderstand what you meant.

     

    I mean that there are no caps on my internet service, so even if I did watch netflix everyday, it would be at the highest quality.

     

    If I'm watching a youtube video, I always choose the highest quality.

     

    If somebody's binge watching a series on Netflix like House of Cards, and they watch 10 episodes, that would be 70 GB in one day. People with no caps don't have to worry about that. Let's not even mention 4k streams.

     

    I never had to deal with comcast before, but it sounds like a real shitty company, and I'm glad that there are no caps on my service.

  • Reply 67 of 127
    pfisherpfisher Posts: 758member

    Years ago, Comcast put us on an internet ban list for a year for exceeding 250 GB a month twice. We are a large household (2 actually) and we all are online and watch Netlfix.

     

    So, I put Comcast on my ban list and FORTUNATELY Verizon laid down FIOS in our city. FIOS is awesome and way more reliable than cable.

     

    Comcast should be put in its place by the government, but won't because they've bought Congress. If they had been the only internet provider...

  • Reply 68 of 127
    gregqgregq Posts: 62member

    If only there was a way to feed all this streaming goodness into a Tivo, for time-shifting. If Apple's service includes on demand aired episodes from the networks then bye bye TWC :)

  • Reply 69 of 127
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,200member
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    Originally Posted by sog35 View Post



    Hd-dvr cost $25 per month with cable. At $500 for tivo would take 20 months to recoup the cost. Plus there is no guarantee the tivo wil work with time warner in a few years.

    Screw cable! I was paying $80/month to watch news and some sports and now pay nothing, using OTA with a TiVo Roamio and Internet with computers and iOS. People buying TiVo hardware today have even less expensive options available than I did. The complete payback time for my system (including a TiVo lifetime programming subscription, 3-year extended warranty, 3 TB internal drive upgrade, external TiVo Stream, and amplified OTA antenna) was <12 months.

     

    If you choose to use cable with a TiVo, you'll get several years of compatibility. Compatibility doesn't just disappear overnight. Look how long it took analog cable to be phased out. Something like 7 years is my guess.

  • Reply 70 of 127
    69ergoo69ergoo Posts: 42member
    But will people be able to watch network programming 24/7 live? Including the NFL? Without live sports, especially the NFL, I don't think any web TV service will be successful.
  • Reply 71 of 127
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    69ergoo wrote: »
    But will people be able to watch network programming 24/7 live? Including the NFL? Without live sports, especially the NFL, I don't think any web TV service will be successful.

    Netflix seems pretty successful without NFL. I have no doubt that HBO NOW will be successful. You only need one service that offers NFL.
  • Reply 72 of 127
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    I just show you i would save $100 a month and I'm sure many others will save big bucks. Well except for people who need to watch tv while washing dishes

    Apparently you still fail to understand that you save $100 by getting less.

     

    I could save on my car payments too by downgrading from a BMW to KIA.

     

    If you want to give up a lot of content then that is your choice, but the comparison is apples to oranges.

     

    Washing dishes? You are the one with three TVs. I only have two. And FYI I can't see the TV while washing dishes, not that I wash many dishes. The sink faces out the window at a beautiful view of nature. The TV faces the breakfast nook.

  • Reply 73 of 127

    https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/twc-tv/id420455839?mt=8

     

    TWC iOS app has been out for a while fyi..........

  • Reply 74 of 127

    Apple in negotiations for ESPN on this AppleTV "slim bundle" program....

     

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-et-ct-apple-tv-skinny-package-20150318-story.html

  • Reply 75 of 127
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member

    @sog35

     

    When people say they are cutting the cord, it is mostly just a bunch of hot air. They say they are going to get their TV over the air. Fine, but are you going to install the antenna yourself, rewire your coax yourself? You'll make a dozen trips to Home Depot, scratch a few knuckles, breathe some insulation, make a few mistakes and fix some wall board and also spend at least a few hundred dollars getting an OTA set up working well. I did it so I think I'm qualified to comment. If you have it professionally installed be prepared to pay upwards of $1,000 or double that in SoCal. Then you need to buy a few more Apple TVs. When you add up all the costs it could take a year or more to break even and all the while you are living with less than ideal content.

  • Reply 76 of 127
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    solipsismy wrote: »
    You only need one service that offers NFL.

    NFL games are shown between 4 networks, 5 if you count the NFL Network. The cost for each is in the billions for the right to air those games. Apple is one of the few companies that could afford to pay that, but they're all in contract for the next several years.
  • Reply 77 of 127
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    Originally Posted by SolipsismY View Post





    Netflix seems pretty successful without NFL. I have no doubt that HBO NOW will be successful. You only need one service that offers NFL.



    Screw sports. I hope that the Apple service doesn't offer any sports. And if they do, it should be as an extra add on that costs an additional fee.

     

    The whole point of internet services should be to pay for what you want, not a bunch of things that you don't want, otherwise, people might as well stick with cable, where you have 1000 channels to choose from, with 980 of them being useless for most people.

  • Reply 78 of 127
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    apple ][ wrote: »
    Screw sports. I hope that the Apple service doesn't offer any sports.

    All those non-whites from mostly underprivielsge homes is sickening to you, right?¡ :rolleyes:
  • Reply 79 of 127
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    All those non-whites from mostly underprivielsge homes is sickening to you, right?¡ image

    All those Olympic athletes from foreign countries, what an utter waste. They shouldn't be allowed to win gold medels. They don't deserve it.

  • Reply 80 of 127
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
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    All those non-whites from mostly underprivielsge homes is sickening to you, right?¡ image



    There you go again concocting all of these racist theories in your liberal head and super imposing them on other posters.<img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

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