Always glad to see the puritanical views of typical US users around here - the same ones who love to defend their "stiff upper lip" nonsense when killing innocent "collateral damage" civilians in faraway lands.
No, there is absolutely no problem with porn - most adults around the world enjoy it. Don't like it? Don't watch it. And keep your own holier-than-thou BULLSHIT to yourselves.
...says the creep that no one would trust letting their kids have a sleepover with his kids.
Tumblr is a porn app - if it's not, then I don't know what is. I know you can also get other "interesting information" but it seems to me that all my male students are using it to get porn and then they use Snapchat to show their desired interest how the porn is making them feel.
This is by far one of the most dumbest, ill-conceived articles from AI in a long time. It's almost like someone over at AI said "It's a slow day today, and we need to meet our click-bait quota, so lets put out an article, any article, even if it has zero meaning to anyone."
SMH... gonna slip a neck-disk soon from what's been going on at AI recently
This is by far one of the most dumbest, ill-conceived articles from AI in a long time. It's almost like someone over at AI said "It's a slow day today, and we need to meet our click-bait quota, so lets put out an article, any article, even if it has zero meaning to anyone."
SMH... gonna slip a neck-disk soon from what's been going on at AI recently
I'd prefer some regular, weekly, Android bashing article.
Ive always thought Apple should allow porn and let the parents manage the devices of their kids accordingly.
Nope. The Safari browser (or any browser) will gladly take you to any porn site you to satisfy every fetish that you so desire.
I do not want the app store looking like Bangkok's Red Light District. Don't care how you want to label me for that, but porn does not belong in the app store.
Former Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart once said that "I know it when I see it" referring to hard-core pornography. In my opinion, there's nothing on HBO GO that comes close to hard-core porn. Shifting social attitudes have transitioned what we consider pornographic or x-rated. For example, the 1969 Best Picture Award went to an X rated film, Midnight Cowboy. About two decades later it was re-released and rated R. Apple needs to adjust its standards/policies too, and keep them consistent. Most Apple products are purchased by those 18 and older, and we should be the final arbiters of taste when it comes to apps, movies, music etc. For such an innovative, forward thinking company, I have problem with Apple being judge and jury as to what constitutes porn. Even apps with nudity are prohibited, despite the Supreme Court ruling that "nude isn't lewd". When it comes to apps, Apple needs to be reminded that its audience wants choice; not just Apple's choice.
Not sure what the holier than thou fuss is all about. Pretty much any app that is capable of delivering content is able to users of these apps adult content since it's in such high demand. To claim that Apple is "selling porn" doesn't pass the credibility test. It's like claiming that Apple is "selling porn" because Safari users are able to browse to porn sites. Have to throw the BS flag on that claim.
Not sure what the holier than thou fuss is all about. Pretty much any app that is capable of delivering content is able to users of these apps adult content since it's in such high demand. To claim that Apple is "selling porn" doesn't pass the credibility test. It's like claiming that Apple is "selling porn" because Safari users are able to browse to porn sites. Have to throw the BS flag on that claim.
This comes down to who's hosting the content. With web browsers, the browser developer isn't hosting anything. 500px was an image browser app that browsed their own hosted image library and it was removed from the store until they cleaned it up. HBO is a video browser hosting their own content. To allow one selling explicit videos and remove another with just nude images is inconsistent policing. When 500px was allowed back in, it got a 17+ rating and had to have features to flag nude images and an age verification.
18.1 Apps containing pornographic material, defined by Webster's Dictionary as "explicit descriptions or displays of sexual organs or activities intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings", will be rejected
18.2 Apps that contain user generated content that is frequently pornographic (e.g. "Chat Roulette" Apps) will be rejected"
Under those rules HBO should be rejected so those rules should be updated with exceptions. If the HBO app only shows this content late at night with live streaming and not as video-on-demand, that could be an exception. If adult content is hidden behind an age-gate, that could also be an exception.
There's no way that Apple has to allow hardcore porn by loosening up the rules. They don't even have to allow fully softcore porn. If they say content must be primarily not pornographic, any pornographic content shown should be softcore and by default hidden behind an age-gate, that should cover any scenario that comes up.
You should be banned on the basis of that idiotic comment alone - what a pathetic evil disregard for human lives.
Some of it is merely lies and enemy propaganda, and I bet that many of the so-called "victims" of certain alleged incidents of "collateral damage" were dirt bag terrorists and worthless enemy combatants who deserved to be eliminated as soon as possible. And besides, stuff happens. There's a war to carry out. I support the US troops. I don't support the dirtbags that they are fighting.
Some of it is merely lies and enemy propaganda, and I bet that many of the so-called "victims" of certain alleged incidents of "collateral damage" were dirt bag terrorists and worthless enemy combatants who deserved to be eliminated as soon as possible. And besides, stuff happens. There's a war to carry out. I support the US troops. I don't support the dirtbags that they are fighting.
Hmm.
Can you tell me against whom we are fighting this war?
What tactics fall under the Geneva Conventions and which don't?
It seems to be quite high usage among women, which really shouldn't be surprising, women and men have a lot more in common than people thought decades ago and it's higher with younger women, likely because they grew up with technology:
^^^ All links except for one as to why over indulging in porn is harmful. Its FACT that "over indulging" in anything is or can be harmful, regardless of what it is. Even sports, healthy eating or exercise(!)
However... if there's one thing... only ONE... that is most harmful to individuals and peaceful, respectful coexistence in society at large.... it is the over indulgence of religious dogma and beliefs! And of course it affects or sex lives as well.
All except for one of your links above ALSO point to religious dogma as the salvation and deliverance from each individual's compulsive disorder. Far more harmful is that 2 of the links (700 Club? Really?!) go so far as to shame women's human needs and desires in puberty, the same as boys I might add. You were right about one point: that the more that comes to light in research, the more we see that men and women have far more in common than many of those persuasive powers that be would have us believe. Eternally trying to split the sexes (and cultures I might add) further apart rather than bringing us closer together.
Women are making some of the porn too because they know what they want to see. 50 Shades of Grey was written by and directed by women. If a guy made it, it would be more like:
They're also not finding very much success with "Porn made for Women". Sorry to tell ya, 50 Shades of Grey is NOT porn or even close to it. It is erotica. Nothing more, nothing less (regardless of your personal views of the movie, book or sexual theme).
From the link:
First, there have been many attempts over the decades, dating back to the 1970s, to create commercial visual pornography that appeals to women enough that they would be willing to pay for it, and each time these efforts have either (1) failed completely, (2) only survived because of the financial support of gay men, or (3) survived with a female customer base that is a tiny fraction of the customer base for pornography targeted at men.
Stats say they make up 1/3 of all visits to porn sites. Plus the actresses are obviously voluntarily taking on the work. One porn actress described it as though it was like if someone stuck their finger in your ear and getting paid to do that, it's just not their ear that's being poked. It's society that treats it differently because of common behaviour.
Your statistic is correct. I'm just having difficulty deciphering "common behavior"(?) after delving deeper into the link that I posted above.
First though, I'd like to state that NO it was not the only link I visited to research the good qualities of porn while looking to debunk all of the "porn is bad" links you posted above. I don't want to write a thesis here so I've decided that the following links to videos will be enough for the class today. Anyone that wants to pursue this as homework only needs to search for "why porn is good" for 100s of articles that discuss men and women in healthy relationships (or single), that use porn from everything from sex stimuli to health and psychological benefits.
I think some of the Technologists among us might appreciate this series.
Note 1: While I can appreciate statistical analysis, I do think a lot of the statistics do point to things we instinctively know. The videos are too short (I suppose they would like to sell a book or 2 as well) so the short summary of theoretical summary is well... premature... to say the least.
Note 2: Dr. Ogas could be a long lost relative of SJ. Especially when I got to Video #2.... I was thinking, "who does this guy and his mannerisms/body language remind me of?!" See for yourself.... uncanny.
That's not to say it's wholesome though. Steve Jobs was firmly against it and said that once you have kids you'd understand (slightly ironic considering how kids are made):
Junk food is convenient and sometimes cheap but it's not wholesome. Porn is like junk food where you can get fast, short-term relief but it's not like a lasting relationship. It seems to be having a bad effect on relationships too:
Again... it comes down to "over indulgence" for the most part. However, there are and will always be expectations in a relationship. Some more savory than others for one partner or the other.
It can not only replace a relationship for some people, it builds expectations, which can fall short in the real world.
That it is why Christian principles of marriage are so wrong... and 50% disastrous: the teachings don't allow for experimentation BEFORE marriage, so how in the heck could anyone ever know whether certain expectations will for the rest of a partner's life go unfulfilled? Talk is one thing, but experimentation and trust in coupling and doing "what comes naturally" is forbidden. Claiming allegiance FOR LIFE to something you can't even "understand" or try first? Even if you bend the commandments to fit your modern day principles, how many people truly open up their deepest darkest sexual proclivities to their partner... before commitment? Rare indeed.
I don't think Apple, Google, Amazon, Microsoft and so on want to earn a reputation as smut peddlers but it makes sense to maintain that stance wherever they can. HBO will want to offer the same content as the cable channels to persuade subscribers over but it sets a precedent for other TV channels.
I could care less about Apple's reputation and HBO's desire to offer their services "uncensored". I support Apple for one reason only: it's a capitalist and market economy business that their SHAREHOLDERS decide which content to allow... or not to. If someone doesn't like it: leave. Enough do that, maybe they change their stance on censorship... maybe not. At this point I see no reason for porn apps anyway. What could they offer that Safari can not? At which time Apple decided to censor search or the open web... I would dump the platform in a heartbeat, as I think millions also would do.
Last question for this long class today:
Which person from these forums got caught up in a scrape of the AOL and Alexis databases the researchers performed, queried this... :smokey:
Spoiler:
Screen cap from Video #3 at 5:29... in the name of science... "sex science" that is.
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This has certainly been a eyeopener. I had no idea there were so many misogynist Neanderthals dragging their knuckles on AI.
Always glad to see the puritanical views of typical US users around here - the same ones who love to defend their "stiff upper lip" nonsense when killing innocent "collateral damage" civilians in faraway lands.
No, there is absolutely no problem with porn - most adults around the world enjoy it. Don't like it? Don't watch it. And keep your own holier-than-thou BULLSHIT to yourselves.
...says the creep that no one would trust letting their kids have a sleepover with his kids.
...says the creep that no one would trust letting their kids have a sleepover with his kids.
And another onto the Blocked list.
That one was easy.
And another onto the Blocked list.
That one was easy.
Good riddance. One less inane defender of porn responding to my posts.
Tumblr is a porn app - if it's not, then I don't know what is. I know you can also get other "interesting information" but it seems to me that all my male students are using it to get porn and then they use Snapchat to show their desired interest how the porn is making them feel.
This is by far one of the most dumbest, ill-conceived articles from AI in a long time. It's almost like someone over at AI said "It's a slow day today, and we need to meet our click-bait quota, so lets put out an article, any article, even if it has zero meaning to anyone."
SMH... gonna slip a neck-disk soon from what's been going on at AI recently
This is by far one of the most dumbest, ill-conceived articles from AI in a long time. It's almost like someone over at AI said "It's a slow day today, and we need to meet our click-bait quota, so lets put out an article, any article, even if it has zero meaning to anyone."
SMH... gonna slip a neck-disk soon from what's been going on at AI recently
I'd prefer some regular, weekly, Android bashing article.
This has certainly been a eyeopener. I had no idea there were so many misogynist Neanderthals dragging their knuckles on AI.
I hope that you don't mean me.
Just because I view women as sex objects (basically all attractive women that fall in between a particular age range), does not make me a misogynist.
I like women, so I'm basically the opposite of a misogynist.
HBO will want to offer the same content as the cable channels to persuade subscribers over but it sets a precedent for other TV channels.
I don't have a problem with HBO sending whatever they like, since it's a pay channel, and customers are either free to subscribe or to not subscribe.
As for kids having access to HBO or any other non-children friendly programming, that responsibility lies solely with the parents, IMO.
Ive always thought Apple should allow porn and let the parents manage the devices of their kids accordingly.
Nope. The Safari browser (or any browser) will gladly take you to any porn site you to satisfy every fetish that you so desire.
I do not want the app store looking like Bangkok's Red Light District. Don't care how you want to label me for that, but porn does not belong in the app store.
Shifting social attitudes have transitioned what we consider pornographic or x-rated. For example, the 1969 Best Picture Award went to an X rated film, Midnight Cowboy. About two decades later it was re-released and rated R.
Apple needs to adjust its standards/policies too, and keep them consistent. Most Apple products are purchased by those 18 and older, and we should be the final arbiters of taste when it comes to apps, movies, music etc.
For such an innovative, forward thinking company, I have problem with Apple being judge and jury as to what constitutes porn. Even apps with nudity are prohibited, despite the Supreme Court ruling that "nude isn't lewd".
When it comes to apps, Apple needs to be reminded that its audience wants choice; not just Apple's choice.
So tits are bad, but violence OK?
This comes down to who's hosting the content. With web browsers, the browser developer isn't hosting anything. 500px was an image browser app that browsed their own hosted image library and it was removed from the store until they cleaned it up. HBO is a video browser hosting their own content. To allow one selling explicit videos and remove another with just nude images is inconsistent policing. When 500px was allowed back in, it got a 17+ rating and had to have features to flag nude images and an age verification.
Their rules are here:
https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#pornography
"18. Pornography
18.1 Apps containing pornographic material, defined by Webster's Dictionary as "explicit descriptions or displays of sexual organs or activities intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings", will be rejected
18.2 Apps that contain user generated content that is frequently pornographic (e.g. "Chat Roulette" Apps) will be rejected"
Under those rules HBO should be rejected so those rules should be updated with exceptions. If the HBO app only shows this content late at night with live streaming and not as video-on-demand, that could be an exception. If adult content is hidden behind an age-gate, that could also be an exception.
There's no way that Apple has to allow hardcore porn by loosening up the rules. They don't even have to allow fully softcore porn. If they say content must be primarily not pornographic, any pornographic content shown should be softcore and by default hidden behind an age-gate, that should cover any scenario that comes up.
There is nothing wrong with either "collateral damage".
You should be banned on the basis of that idiotic comment alone - what a pathetic evil disregard for human lives.
You should be banned on the basis of that idiotic comment alone - what a pathetic evil disregard for human lives.
Some of it is merely lies and enemy propaganda, and I bet that many of the so-called "victims" of certain alleged incidents of "collateral damage" were dirt bag terrorists and worthless enemy combatants who deserved to be eliminated as soon as possible. And besides, stuff happens. There's a war to carry out. I support the US troops. I don't support the dirtbags that they are fighting.
And yet you responded with speech.
I don't think literally or speechless means what you think they mean.
Some of it is merely lies and enemy propaganda, and I bet that many of the so-called "victims" of certain alleged incidents of "collateral damage" were dirt bag terrorists and worthless enemy combatants who deserved to be eliminated as soon as possible. And besides, stuff happens. There's a war to carry out. I support the US troops. I don't support the dirtbags that they are fighting.
Hmm.
Can you tell me against whom we are fighting this war?
What tactics fall under the Geneva Conventions and which don't?
Who exactly are our allies and who are not?
When we will know who won?
^^^ All links except for one as to why over indulging in porn is harmful. Its FACT that "over indulging" in anything is or can be harmful, regardless of what it is. Even sports, healthy eating or exercise(!)
However... if there's one thing... only ONE... that is most harmful to individuals and peaceful, respectful coexistence in society at large.... it is the over indulgence of religious dogma and beliefs! And of course it affects or sex lives as well.
All except for one of your links above ALSO point to religious dogma as the salvation and deliverance from each individual's compulsive disorder. Far more harmful is that 2 of the links (700 Club? Really?!) go so far as to shame women's human needs and desires in puberty, the same as boys I might add. You were right about one point: that the more that comes to light in research, the more we see that men and women have far more in common than many of those persuasive powers that be would have us believe. Eternally trying to split the sexes (and cultures I might add) further apart rather than bringing us closer together.
They're also not finding very much success with "Porn made for Women". Sorry to tell ya, 50 Shades of Grey is NOT porn or even close to it. It is erotica. Nothing more, nothing less (regardless of your personal views of the movie, book or sexual theme).
From the link:
Your statistic is correct. I'm just having difficulty deciphering "common behavior"(?) after delving deeper into the link that I posted above.
First though, I'd like to state that NO it was not the only link I visited to research the good qualities of porn while looking to debunk all of the "porn is bad" links you posted above. I don't want to write a thesis here so I've decided that the following links to videos will be enough for the class today. Anyone that wants to pursue this as homework only needs to search for "why porn is good" for 100s of articles that discuss men and women in healthy relationships (or single), that use porn from everything from sex stimuli to health and psychological benefits.
I think some of the Technologists among us might appreciate this series.
*** PARENTAL DISCRETION IS ADVISED ***
Reading material. Short but informative.
A Billion Wicked Thoughts: What We've Learned About Turn-ons
Where does online sex research fit into the field of sex science? Includes video
The video series on YouTube
Billion Wicked Thoughts: Video #1: What REALLY Turns us on?
Computational neuroscientists Dr. Ogi Ogas and Dr. Sai Gaddam provide an introduction to their research on sexual desire using online data.
Billion Wicked Thoughts: Video #2: Where do our sexual interests come from?
In this video, they discuss Erotical Illusions, a new way of thinking about sexual interests.
Billion Wicked Thoughts: Video #3: What turns men on?
In this video, they discuss some of their surprising results concerning one of the most important male turn-ons: age.
Billion Wicked Thoughts: Video #4: Do Women Like Porn?
In this video, they reveal the two most important facts about women and porn.
Note 1: While I can appreciate statistical analysis, I do think a lot of the statistics do point to things we instinctively know. The videos are too short (I suppose they would like to sell a book or 2 as well) so the short summary of theoretical summary is well... premature... to say the least.
Note 2: Dr. Ogas could be a long lost relative of SJ. Especially when I got to Video #2.... I was thinking, "who does this guy and his mannerisms/body language remind me of?!" See for yourself.... uncanny.
Again... it comes down to "over indulgence" for the most part. However, there are and will always be expectations in a relationship. Some more savory than others for one partner or the other.
That it is why Christian principles of marriage are so wrong... and 50% disastrous: the teachings don't allow for experimentation BEFORE marriage, so how in the heck could anyone ever know whether certain expectations will for the rest of a partner's life go unfulfilled? Talk is one thing, but experimentation and trust in coupling and doing "what comes naturally" is forbidden. Claiming allegiance FOR LIFE to something you can't even "understand" or try first? Even if you bend the commandments to fit your modern day principles, how many people truly open up their deepest darkest sexual proclivities to their partner... before commitment? Rare indeed.
I could care less about Apple's reputation and HBO's desire to offer their services "uncensored". I support Apple for one reason only: it's a capitalist and market economy business that their SHAREHOLDERS decide which content to allow... or not to. If someone doesn't like it: leave. Enough do that, maybe they change their stance on censorship... maybe not. At this point I see no reason for porn apps anyway. What could they offer that Safari can not? At which time Apple decided to censor search or the open web... I would dump the platform in a heartbeat, as I think millions also would do.
Last question for this long class today:
Which person from these forums got caught up in a scrape of the AOL and Alexis databases the researchers performed, queried this... :smokey:
Screen cap from Video #3 at 5:29... in the name of science... "sex science" that is.
It appears Apple is not censoring the iBooks Store. Most of the top sellers are steamy novels.