Apple to show 'the future of iOS and OS X' at WWDC June 8-12

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  • Reply 101 of 167
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee View Post

     

    Seriously, this is the worst time of the year for Apple haters. They basically OWN tech news for 7 months out of the year (June/WWDC until Christmas).


    Except that, this year, January, March and April also joined the seven months. (They can have February and May, though). <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> 

  • Reply 102 of 167
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by thataveragejoe View Post

     

    The TV is considered the epicenter of your living room and entertainment at home. It seems obvious to me whatever is coming with the new Apple TV is at the heart of the announcement here and will tie a number of things together, both within the ecosystem and digital entertainment. 

     

    EDIT: Could also be making a connected home hint. From the Apple TV at the center out through your other devices to the watch (circles for watch apps)


    ^^

  • Reply 103 of 167
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post



     

    We are beginning to see the lines blur between iOS and OS X.



    Since March 09 2015, with Xcode, we have been able to construct a single app package that targets Macs, iPhones, iPads, Apple Watch and iCloud.

     
    Quote:
    Lister is a document based productivity app for iOS 8, OS X 10.10, and Apple Watch. It demonstrates Apple Watch integration; using iCloud to share content between multiple app targets and platforms; using App Groups to share local content between apps and extensions on a single device; creating App Extensions to provide Today Widgets and Watch Apps; and defining a framework to share common code between multiple targets. The Lister sample app is provided in both Swift and Objective-C.




    https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/samplecode/Lister/Introduction/Intro.html





    I suspect, that most all of the underlying Xcode frameworks have been rethought, modernized and reimplemented in Swift.



    I'd bet we'll see a further blurring of the lines between platforms with common Playgrounds, Storyboards and shared frameworks.





    The WWDC Logo is eerily reminiscent of an IBM Logo from the past"

















    Sorry this is the best Logo I could find ... It is the Compass Rose of the IBM System/360.



    Before the 360, IBM had many disparate computer architectures (binary, decimal, octal, table-lookup, etc.) -- each with several versions of its own operating system and development/programming constructs.



    The 360 consolidated all these into a single architecture (several models) and single development/programming construct (tho, several OS versions).





    I wonder if Apple is trying to tell us something ...





    Or, it could just be an Ojo de Dios:











    Finally, I suspect Apple will open source the Swift language and the underlying Foundation framework.





    Boom!

    Or, Tim Cook may be following in Steve Jobs's footsteps and becoming a Buddhist: http://www.mandalas.com/#4730prettyPhoto[gallery]/2/

  • Reply 104 of 167
    asdasdasdasd Posts: 5,686member
     
    We are beginning to see the lines blur between iOS and OS X.

    Since March 09 2015, with Xcode, we have been able to construct a single app package that targets Macs, iPhones, iPads, Apple Watch and iCloud.
    https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/samplecode/Lister/Introduction/Intro.html


    I suspect, that most all of the underlying Xcode frameworks have been rethought, modernized and reimplemented in Swift.

    I'd bet we'll see a further blurring of the lines between platforms with common Playgrounds, Storyboards and shared frameworks.


    The WWDC Logo is eerily reminiscent of an IBM Logo from the past"


    1000


    1000


    Sorry this is the best Logo I could find ... It is the Compass Rose of the IBM System/360.

    Before the 360, IBM had many disparate computer architectures (binary, decimal, octal, table-lookup, etc.) -- each with several versions of its own operating system and development/programming constructs.

    The 360 consolidated all these into a single architecture (several models) and single development/programming construct (tho, several OS versions).


    I wonder if Apple is trying to tell us something ...


    Or, it could just be an Ojo de Dios:


    1000


    Finally, I suspect Apple will open source the Swift language and the underlying Foundation framework.


    Boom!
    sog35 wrote: »
    I shutdown my computer every day.

    With Mavericks my mini would power up in 5 seconds.  Now it takes 10 seconds or more.  May not seem like much but one of the main reasons I bought the Mini with fusion drive was for quick start ups.  If I need to wait 30 seconds or more I'll be pissed.

    I always thought its 'safer' to shutdown instead of putting it on sleep?  not sure.

    It will be years before they even start of using swift as the default in their own code.
  • Reply 105 of 167
    hentaiboyhentaiboy Posts: 1,252member
    Aren't we overdue for OS XI?
  • Reply 106 of 167
    sog35, I'm quite intrigued by your comment. Check out the Apple Store page for the Apple TV. The prices is listed as "Starting at $69", yet there's only one model that's $69. Something seems bound to be added to the Apple TV line up. Or, it's just lazy copy-paste programming.
  • Reply 107 of 167
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
    sog35 wrote: »
    80% of their profits come from iOS

    80%+ of the code comes from OS X.
  • Reply 108 of 167
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
    Swift has to be ISO'd and merged into LLVM/Clang with support for FreeBSD, Linux and even Windows.

    Even Microsoft recognizes the power of LLVM/Clang by announcing LLILC

    http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2015-April/084459.html

    https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr

    Swift needs to be on all those listed platforms.
  • Reply 109 of 167
    The circles are Mac Pros and the squares are Mac Minis. ;)
  • Reply 110 of 167
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,056member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

     

    Logo looks like an Apple TV.

     

    Not sure what the circles are for.  A round watch?  lol.


    If you look at the size, big circles look like something new, like Apple Hub.

    Small circles: app icons for watch

    Small squares, rounded edge with translucence: new app icons for iOS9

    Big squares, rounded edge: of course Apple TV

    Big circles: new device Apple Hub...?

  • Reply 111 of 167
    fallenjtfallenjt Posts: 4,056member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

     

     

    I shutdown my computer every day.

     

    With Mavericks my mini would power up in 5 seconds.  Now it takes 10 seconds or more.  May not seem like much but one of the main reasons I bought the Mini with fusion drive was for quick start ups.  If I need to wait 30 seconds or more I'll be pissed.

     

    I always thought its 'safer' to shutdown instead of putting it on sleep?  not sure.


    30s waiting makes you piss? You gotto try to use Windows so you can appreciate Mac 100x more.

  • Reply 112 of 167
    sog35 wrote: »
    80% of their profits come from iOS

    80%+ of the code comes from OS X.

    Yeah, but ... I've read where a lot of the original OS X code was reimplemented and "done right" for iOS -- then ported back to the mothership.
  • Reply 113 of 167
    Swift has to be ISO'd and merged into LLVM/Clang with support for FreeBSD, Linux and even Windows.

    Even Microsoft recognizes the power of LLVM/Clang by announcing LLILC

    http://lists.cs.uiuc.edu/pipermail/llvmdev/2015-April/084459.html

    https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr

    Swift needs to be on all those listed platforms.


    Totally agree! And it will benefit Apple in the process!
  • Reply 114 of 167
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
    fallenjt wrote: »
    30s waiting makes you piss? You gotto try to use Windows so you can appreciate Mac 100x more.

    Shutting down a UNIX OS that goes into hibernation mode is foolhardy. The only time I shut down OS X, Linux or FreeBSD is rebooting to load a new kernel.
  • Reply 115 of 167
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member
    Yeah, but ... I've read where a lot of the original OS X code was reimplemented and "done right" for iOS -- then ported back to the mothership.

    What gets ported back is code that cooperates between the platforms. The kernel, filesystems, etc., all come from OS X.
  • Reply 116 of 167
    I wonder if the "future" of IOS and OS X will be a merger of the two operating systems.
  • Reply 117 of 167
    I wonder if the "future" of IOS and OS X will be a merger of the two operating systems.

    I don't that Apple and the technology is quite ready for that yet ...

    But from an app developer / design / programming perspective, things like extensions, handoff, multiple cross-platform targets, shared code -- we're moving in that direction.
  • Reply 118 of 167
    Yeah it's clear that this is going to be about the Apple TV with a focus on iOS/OSX. The TV is pretty much the epicenter of any living room or home when it comes to content.

    The epicenter by definition is also a focal point for which waves or shockwaves derive, such as an earthquake, a bit of a double entendre really when it comes to shaking up cable television.

    I am definitely looking forward to this.
  • Reply 119 of 167
    macapfel wrote: »
    It's interesting that it is 'about the future of iOS and OS X' and not 'the future of OS X and iOS'. Cleary iOS became the prime focus for Apple.

    The Mac market is growing, but it's not dominant. It never was the success that iPhone is.
  • Reply 120 of 167
    I wonder if the "future" of IOS and OS X will be a merger of the two operating systems.

    If you mean the future of car and truck engines is to merge into one, then no. I take the view they serve different uses. It isn't one OS (different editions) to rule them all like Windows 10 wants to be.
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