Apart from my above interest in the MINIX, and the fact that I'm once again starting to investigate other alternatives to only using and recommending Apple mobile and iOS devices... I did run across something rather "worrying and disconcerting" yesterday when taking some time with my 1st gen Nexus 7 (after many months of being on the shelf).
I use Pinterest, Tumblr, Facebook, Flickr, DeviantArt, 500px, Chrome (sometimes), etc... and a number of other apps for model scouting. I also save a number of pictures that I run across for later filing and personal SED cards/catalog sheets for look books. My saved photos are of course auto-synced as private (sharing turned off) to my Google account from the Nexus.
Lo and behold yesterday, when I went to my synced Google+ photos within Chrome on my Mac to do some sorting and organizing, I ran across a number of pictures that had been "tagged and flagged" by Google with a yellow warning triangle.... that these wouldn't be allowed to share. Well 1) I wasn't planning on it since I have all settings turned on to private, but 2) I don't believe it's Google's business to see what I have saved.
Of course I realize everything that I do on Google or with Google's apps or platforms is being watched, analyzed and profiled. I get that. However, at what point does Google start to make business decisions and start to flag other content, like music and movies that I have saved to say a NAS or SD card.... and then start throwing either ads on top of those, or not allow them to be played due to a DMCA complaint.
Even though I don't make a big deal about it personally, and if it ever came to pass that Google decided to block my content, I'd find something else without bitching and moaning about it. However I can imagine others getting really upset about it, and just this little experience above caused me to step back and be careful what I do with my Google enabled devices/apps... and I will never trust my original content to be only saved to their services.
Independent, personal cloud servers is the only way IMHO.
Yeah I agree, I only use Google Drive to save my movies on as it's still best service that I have used that can handle my ripped/encoded movies without issue, let it be watching them directly from the web or streaming to VLC. When it comes across a format that it can't stream it converts the file on the fly as well, pretty cool. Most everything else, except for my programming files (DropBox), I use OneDrive. I started to really use OneDrive after I got the Nokia 1020 as it had the best online interface for dealing with photos and was also the fastest. Microsoft also gives out a lot of free space, even though I have a 1 TB plan with them they have given me 150GB of free space over the years, that's pretty nice considering that the others barely give out 5GB of free space.
Oh, FYI, Mega is now giving away 50GB of free space and it's also an extremely fast service. I use them solely as a depository for ROM backups from my Nexus 9 and Shield Tablet. Once a day I create a complete system backup into a flashable ROM image that can easily be flashed back to either device in case of emergency.
All of my devices except my iPads for obvious reasons, still use the Home directory sceam, than under Home I have all of the normal sub directories like Documents, Movies, Photos, Videos, eBooks, etc. The reason why I still use this is because all of the platforms that I currently use, Linux, Solaris, WIndows 8.1/10, Android, Amiga (still use it for video), can have the same exact data. I also only use a single 128GB Mini SD card for all my devices, when I use my Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 12.5 I take out the Mini SD card containing my files from say my Nvidia Shield Tablet. Large files like 3D, Videos, etc. are saved on the NAS. That way I never touch the system except for applications, always have my files and know where they are and where to find them, that is except for my iPads and Nexus 9, but their data is backup-ed to OneDrive and iCloud once a day or more if I'm doing a lot of work on them. Unfortunatly the iPad uses that weird way of storing it's files under each individual app, making it the only device I own that sits alone in my data skeam, I guess it wouldn't matter if it was the other way though as I can't FTP into my iPad to do automated backups.
As far as trusting Google or not, well, I feel the same way about every cloud service, Apple included, as long as their not selling my data to another firm I'm comfortable using their services. Mostly because I never save any personal info on them. Things like finances, taxes, personal data in general are all located on a local Sun Server with striped Raid for redundancy, that has no access to the internet and is completely encrypted using a Sun Crypto Accelerator 6000 PCIe card (150 bucks on eBay, the 1000 version can be had for about 25 bucks), I also have one in my Sun workstation. Backups are done using an old SCSI iomega Jaz drive as they last forever. I bought a case of 24 2GB discs after they went under and have over 100 still in their wrapper, 750MB ZipDrive discs that I also still use for the same reason. The discs are stored in a fireproof safe in my bomb shelter, with backups stored at a bank, so my data is as safe as you could possibly make it. I used to use DAT for my backups and still have tons of tapes and a Sony drive that works but I got tired of the wait time needed to recover my data. I even had an old IBM real to real just for funnzies but finding anything to communicate with it turned out to be to much for me to invest time in. I did get it to work under DOS but who uses that anymore. Well, I shouldn't say that, I do have a DOS emulator on my Nexus 9 that I like to use to play DOS games like Civilization I/II, Wing Commander, X-Wing/Tie Fighter and Syndicate.
You can fight back, just stop buying things and replacing them every year. Instead of spending $70 on an Apple TV, buy a used ultra mini PC like a Intel NUC or a MSI Brick for $150 off of eBay, install an opensorce media center app on it like XBMC and than just keep it updated. You can easily get 3 years out of it and will never feel like your missing anything as you'll still have access to all of the latest content from the likes of HBO Go, Netflix, Hulu, etc. it just won't have an Apple logo on it. Companies will always break their things after awhile to force people to purchase the newest and greatest, just don't fall into that trap from the get go. Always buy something that you can upgrade later, that includes desktop computers and laptops.
Or run it straight off your computer with DLNA, or the like, your TV just needs to be networked.. Why even buy a new computer? There are probably 50 DLNA servers available for the computer, many of them free.
Not at all happy with this regardless of the rationale. This is one of the downsides of subscription based software, you don't even get to use the obsoleted version when the vendor decides to quit supporting it based on their self interests rather than yours. ;-)
I wouldn't be surprised if the stink from this power play by Google raises the ire of regulators who are currently scrutizing the Google monopoly.
Boo to Apple for creating more landfill fodder.
I'll wait to see what Apple offers next month as a next gen Apple TV before shelling out cash for a third generation Apple TV that's now next in line for planned obsolescence.
At least Apple was nice enough to remove the stinking carcass of the dead YouTube app from AppleTV. Now will they do the same for older iOS devices like iPod Touch 4 and iPad 1? I doubt it.
Landfill fodder?
That's a bit extreme. Most TV's have YouTube built in already.
The REAL reason for the Apple TV is access to the iTunes store. That is the exclusive feature of the Apple TV.
Does anyone know if you can still AirPlay YouTube content from on an iPhone or iPad to a Gen 2 Apple TV?
Cause that'S what we need , an API that finds its way in almost every page that's overhead intensive.... Good grief.
No wonder why, I've got all sort of javascript filters in my browser.
So, End of life also means removing features?! Youtube was working just fine and now it's not there anymore. That's not only End of life-ing a product, it's remotely breaking the old product. Out of all the apps on there, you decided to break the youtube. Why not just leave it there and not support it? I want youtube! My next device will not be Apple TV. Couldn't play Amazon either. Sucks!
Just curious and a couple of questions after doing an Amazon search here in Germany for the MINIX.
1) a number of the customer reviews were not so enthusiastic, however I think it's due to the media software that's pre-installed. So I'm clear: I need to install/replace with Kodi (xbmc) before experiencing anything like the review on YT or your own?
2) another device was listed as being "superior' to the MINIX: HiMedia Q5quad 3D FullHD & 4K Mediaplayer Android 4.4 Smart TV Box. Have you tried that one as well? And again, does it come down to the pre-installed software and replacing it?
"Thanks again" as always for wasting my morning after having my curiosity stoked by one of your product reviews! :rolleyes: Bad Girl! :smokey:
Sorry PixelDoc, I can't believe I missed this. Yes, the negative reviews were software related, install the newest version of Kodi and you should be back in business. Also those reviews you saw were probably for the X8-H version and not the X8-H Plus, there is actually a big difference. Not only do you get a much more powerful and advanced CPU that contains a 4K encoder but you also get a fast ethernet connection, 1,000 Gbit vs. 10/100Mbit, also the updated XBMC software which contains drivers for 4K. I've never heard of the HiMedia before you mentioned it, looks pretty good. There's actually a few of them out their that are more than capable on deliverying a first rate experince. I was introduced to the Minix by a friend so I gravitated towards it more than the others, I also found a local shop that sells and repairs them if needed.`
I not only have lost YouTube on my Apple TV, but also on my first generation IPad. Its operating system can't be updated. It's very frustrating to spend a significant amount of money on products that are made intentionally obsolete by the manufacturer. I feel as though these products have been sold in bad faith. if they're only good for a couple of years because the manufacturer has no intention of supporting them, that should be known up front.
I not only have lost YouTube on my Apple TV, but also on my first generation IPad. Its operating system can't be updated. It's very frustrating to spend a significant amount of money on products that are made intentionally obsolete by the manufacturer. I feel as though these products have been sold in bad faith. if they're only good for a couple of years because the manufacturer has no intention of supporting them, that should be known up front.
For Youtube on the iPad, you'd open a browser, go to m.youtube.com, tap the share button just left of the URL box and tap 'add to home screen' and name it Youtube or something. It won't be quite the same as having the app but with the app setup, the browser would always kick you out into the Youtube app to watch a video and you'd have to use the app switcher to get back to the browser. Now it's all in the browser.
The iPad 1 is 5 years old, beyond even the extended warranty period. If manufacturers support hardware after a certain time, it affects their accounting because it counts as costs. Publicly traded companies have to account for costs towards every product. Apple has mentioned supporting products for 4-5 years in their account filings. They changed tactics with the Mac and software support for Yosemite goes back to 2007-2009, that's about 8 years but they adjusted costs for doing that and for making Yosemite free.
You can get about $150-180 for the iPad 1 on eBay. A new iPad Air would be $400 so $220-250 upgrade. That should last another 5 years though and have a Retina display. A new iPad mini Retina (iPad mini 2 minimum) would be $120-150 upgrade. You can also shop around eBay for refurbs:
The truth: Greed removed the YouTube app. Apple and Google are being controlled by it. Personally..... SCREW Ads! If I want to shop I shouldn't have shopping crammed down my throat when I use an app that is not intended for shopping.
It's like a metal lid forcibly sealing your coffee cup, and forcing you to watch a Wendy's commercial.
The truth: Greed removed the YouTube app. Apple and Google are being controlled by it. Personally..... SCREW Ads! If I want to shop I shouldn't have shopping crammed down my throat when I use an app that is not intended for shopping.
It's like a metal lid forcibly sealing your coffee cup, and forcing you to watch a Wendy's commercial.
Just stupid.
First, no one is forcing you to use YouTube, just go to a different video site, oh wait, most of them are also uses ads to pay for the high costs of data centers and bandwidth or did you think those things were free. How would you suggest Google pay for it all, maybe an all subscription service, even for the none premium services, YouTube usage would shrink to 3/4ths it's size in a manner of seconds after that model was put into place. You have no problem calling foul on ads but aren't offering a reasonable alternative on how Google could give away terabytes of storage, data center maintence costs, personal costs to run the data centers, bandwidth usage, etc. without using ads to help pay for it all. The ads on YouTube are nothing more than a tiny nusance and I don't understand why it's such a huge deal, ads are everywhere and are a permanent part of our lives, let it be on bulletin boards, TV spots, newspapers, product placement in films, junk mail, etc. So why are ads on YouTube worse than any of those or do you also complain in some NBC forum about the ads yours seeing watching NCIS Rancho Cucamonga. I don't mean to come off as a jerk but you need to look at things realistically, it's not all about greed, there are actual costs associated with running a site like YouTube and their enormous, like it or not, ads help alleviate those costs.
First, no one is forcing you to use YouTube, just go to a different video site, oh wait, most of them are also uses ads to pay for the high costs of data centers and bandwidth or did you think those things were free. How would you suggest Google pay for it all, maybe an all subscription service, even for the none premium services, YouTube usage would shrink to 3/4ths it's size in a manner of seconds after that model was put into place. You have no problem calling foul on ads but aren't offering a reasonable alternative on how Google could give away terabytes of storage, data center maintence costs, personal costs to run the data centers, bandwidth usage, etc. without using ads to help pay for it all. The ads on YouTube are nothing more than a tiny nusance and I don't understand why it's such a huge deal, ads are everywhere and are a permanent part of our lives, let it be on bulletin boards, TV spots, newspapers, product placement in films, junk mail, etc. So why are ads on YouTube worse than any of those or do you also complain in some NBC forum about the ads yours seeing watching NCIS Rancho Cucamonga. I don't mean to come off as a jerk but you need to look at things realistically, it's not all about greed, there are actual costs associated with running a site like YouTube and their enormous, like it or not, ads help alleviate those costs.
Oooohhhhh I must have hit a nerve Mr. 1%-er. BTW maintence is actually spelled maintenance. If what you said were fully true YouTube would never made it as the ads were forced on us about two years ago YouTube is much older than that.
Face the FACTS bub... "THEY" already make money, and just want more of it. I liked it better when the ads were on banners, etc. and not in the vids.
Oooohhhhh I must have hit a nerve Mr. 1%-er. BTW maintence is actually spelled maintenance. If what you said were fully true YouTube would never made it as the ads were forced on us about two years ago YouTube is much older than that.
Face the FACTS bub... "THEY" already make money, and just want more of it. I liked it better when the ads were on banners, etc. and not in the vids.
Sorry PixelDoc, I can't believe I missed this. Yes, the negative reviews were software related, install the newest version of Kodi and you should be back in business. Also those reviews you saw were probably for the X8-H version and not the X8-H Plus, there is actually a big difference. Not only do you get a much more powerful and advanced CPU that contains a 4K encoder but you also get a fast ethernet connection, 1,000 Gbit vs. 10/100Mbit, also the updated XBMC software which contains drivers for 4K. I've never heard of the HiMedia before you mentioned it, looks pretty good. There's actually a few of them out their that are more than capable on deliverying a first rate experince. I was introduced to the Minix by a friend so I gravitated towards it more than the others, I also found a local shop that sells and repairs them if needed.`
Sorry for the late reply and thanks for getting back with more info.
Since you also read and speak German, here's the link to the German Amazon with the bad reviews for the X8-H Plus... if you're interested.
Too much work on my plate at the moment to look into this further myself and experiment. But hey! That's why we put up with you here, so we don't have to do the hard stuff...
Sorry for the late reply and thanks for getting back with more info.
Since you also read and speak German, here's the link to the German Amazon with the bad reviews for the X8-H Plus... if you're interested.
Too much work on my plate at the moment to look into this further myself and experiment. But hey! That's why we put up with you here, so we don't have to do the hard stuff...
Have a great one, whatever that "one" might be!
Thanks for the link, a lot of these problems seem to be associated with an out of date firmware. I did a lot of research before I bought mine, even got it from a local shop in case I needed to return it. So far I haven't ran into any problems that couldn't be fixed via a software update or by just reading the f'en manual, something I tend to be really horrible at doing. All in all I am very pleased with the MINIX or I wouldn't have recommemded it. Minix is one of the top producers of such devices with a very loyal following. I've noticed a lot of peoples problems is not due to the hardware but their ineptitude towards technology in general. They expect things to work a certain way and when they don't they freak, when all they had to do was spend a little time to customize the experience to their liking, that's what these devices are all about. Their not 100% cookie cutter solutions like the Apple TV or Amazon Fire TV is. The MINIX is a powerful media solution with many different possibilities for a single task, making it the perfect device for those who arent satisfied with only using what a company dictates as best for them. This also doesn't mean the MINIX isn't easy to setup because is, took me all of 30 min to add the apps I wanted and setup up the repositories in Kodi.
I also just bought another ARM box, similar to the MINIX. The UGOOS UT3S, contains a RK3288 chip which is a screamer, 4GB of memory which is the most memory I have seen as of yet in such a device, 32GB of storage, gigabit Ethernet, USB 3 ports, etc. It runs Ubuntu 14.10 and Android in a dual boot, which is why I bought it. I'm trying to go all in with ARM even with my desktop computers, so I plan on using this in conjunction with my Nvidia Jetson dev boards. It also makes a really good media player as you can install XBMC as a standalone OS. Which is really all you need to have a first rate multimedia experience. Though if you want to also run games than you can just boot into Android and go to town. The RK3288 is more than enough to play any game that's in the Google Play Store. Just another gadget for your TV to think about. It also costs about the same as the MINIX. I bought mine through GeekBuying, a site that's hard to visit do to all of the geeky goodies for sale.
Oooohhhhh I must have hit a nerve Mr. 1%-er. BTW maintence is actually spelled maintenance. If what you said were fully true YouTube would never made it as the ads were forced on us about two years ago YouTube is much older than that.
Face the FACTS bub... "THEY" already make money, and just want more of it. I liked it better when the ads were on banners, etc. and not in the vids.
The site was FAR more functional.
First I'm Swiss, English is not my native tongue, so there are bound to be mistakes in my spellings from time to time, it happens when you speak 4 Languages, especially when AppleInsider doesn't show the spell checker when using a tablet. Also calling out a simple spelling mistake just to make yourself look superior or try to make the other look like an idiot is just lame, please don't do it anymore, it's annoying on the highest calibre as well as being one of the lowest forms of debate tactics you can use in a forum discussion. Your better than that.
If you look at any statistics chart on YouTube usage you will see that it is going up exponential, in 2013, 2 years ago, YouTube had an average 100 hours of video uploaded every minute, by 2015 those numbers tripled to over 300, with future expectations of those numbers doubling by 2016. Which means a whole lot more servers and bandwidth will be needed. The model of old that you talk of is no longer sustainable with these type of usage numbers, nor can you expect Google to just take a loss and they will start to loose money quickly if they just gave away one of the most used web services on the planet without having some sort of income generating scheme. Again though, if you don't like it than don't use it, complaining about it won't change a thing. Really though, the ads take up just 4 seconds of your time, yes it's annoying but no more annoying than the other 100's of ads your bombarded with every day.
pls sue apple tv for removing youtube from older gen ! Apple published the support of youtube in its adv when they sold apple TV box. now Apple is breaking its specification and violating its commitment to their consumers.
^ get a grip. What if YouTube had folded, would you try to sue Apple then too? Your software license for the ?tv will specify that the services will be subject to change.
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Yeah I agree, I only use Google Drive to save my movies on as it's still best service that I have used that can handle my ripped/encoded movies without issue, let it be watching them directly from the web or streaming to VLC. When it comes across a format that it can't stream it converts the file on the fly as well, pretty cool. Most everything else, except for my programming files (DropBox), I use OneDrive. I started to really use OneDrive after I got the Nokia 1020 as it had the best online interface for dealing with photos and was also the fastest. Microsoft also gives out a lot of free space, even though I have a 1 TB plan with them they have given me 150GB of free space over the years, that's pretty nice considering that the others barely give out 5GB of free space.
Oh, FYI, Mega is now giving away 50GB of free space and it's also an extremely fast service. I use them solely as a depository for ROM backups from my Nexus 9 and Shield Tablet. Once a day I create a complete system backup into a flashable ROM image that can easily be flashed back to either device in case of emergency.
All of my devices except my iPads for obvious reasons, still use the Home directory sceam, than under Home I have all of the normal sub directories like Documents, Movies, Photos, Videos, eBooks, etc. The reason why I still use this is because all of the platforms that I currently use, Linux, Solaris, WIndows 8.1/10, Android, Amiga (still use it for video), can have the same exact data. I also only use a single 128GB Mini SD card for all my devices, when I use my Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga 12.5 I take out the Mini SD card containing my files from say my Nvidia Shield Tablet. Large files like 3D, Videos, etc. are saved on the NAS. That way I never touch the system except for applications, always have my files and know where they are and where to find them, that is except for my iPads and Nexus 9, but their data is backup-ed to OneDrive and iCloud once a day or more if I'm doing a lot of work on them. Unfortunatly the iPad uses that weird way of storing it's files under each individual app, making it the only device I own that sits alone in my data skeam, I guess it wouldn't matter if it was the other way though as I can't FTP into my iPad to do automated backups.
As far as trusting Google or not, well, I feel the same way about every cloud service, Apple included, as long as their not selling my data to another firm I'm comfortable using their services. Mostly because I never save any personal info on them. Things like finances, taxes, personal data in general are all located on a local Sun Server with striped Raid for redundancy, that has no access to the internet and is completely encrypted using a Sun Crypto Accelerator 6000 PCIe card (150 bucks on eBay, the 1000 version can be had for about 25 bucks), I also have one in my Sun workstation. Backups are done using an old SCSI iomega Jaz drive as they last forever. I bought a case of 24 2GB discs after they went under and have over 100 still in their wrapper, 750MB ZipDrive discs that I also still use for the same reason. The discs are stored in a fireproof safe in my bomb shelter, with backups stored at a bank, so my data is as safe as you could possibly make it. I used to use DAT for my backups and still have tons of tapes and a Sony drive that works but I got tired of the wait time needed to recover my data. I even had an old IBM real to real just for funnzies but finding anything to communicate with it turned out to be to much for me to invest time in. I did get it to work under DOS but who uses that anymore. Well, I shouldn't say that, I do have a DOS emulator on my Nexus 9 that I like to use to play DOS games like Civilization I/II, Wing Commander, X-Wing/Tie Fighter and Syndicate.
You can fight back, just stop buying things and replacing them every year. Instead of spending $70 on an Apple TV, buy a used ultra mini PC like a Intel NUC or a MSI Brick for $150 off of eBay, install an opensorce media center app on it like XBMC and than just keep it updated. You can easily get 3 years out of it and will never feel like your missing anything as you'll still have access to all of the latest content from the likes of HBO Go, Netflix, Hulu, etc. it just won't have an Apple logo on it. Companies will always break their things after awhile to force people to purchase the newest and greatest, just don't fall into that trap from the get go. Always buy something that you can upgrade later, that includes desktop computers and laptops.
Or run it straight off your computer with DLNA, or the like, your TV just needs to be networked.. Why even buy a new computer? There are probably 50 DLNA servers available for the computer, many of them free.
Not at all happy with this regardless of the rationale. This is one of the downsides of subscription based software, you don't even get to use the obsoleted version when the vendor decides to quit supporting it based on their self interests rather than yours. ;-)
I wouldn't be surprised if the stink from this power play by Google raises the ire of regulators who are currently scrutizing the Google monopoly.
Boo to Apple for creating more landfill fodder.
I'll wait to see what Apple offers next month as a next gen Apple TV before shelling out cash for a third generation Apple TV that's now next in line for planned obsolescence.
At least Apple was nice enough to remove the stinking carcass of the dead YouTube app from AppleTV. Now will they do the same for older iOS devices like iPod Touch 4 and iPad 1? I doubt it.
Landfill fodder?
That's a bit extreme. Most TV's have YouTube built in already.
The REAL reason for the Apple TV is access to the iTunes store. That is the exclusive feature of the Apple TV.
Does anyone know if you can still AirPlay YouTube content from on an iPhone or iPad to a Gen 2 Apple TV?
http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/06/apis-fuel-the-software-thats-eating-the-world/
I want youtube! My next device will not be Apple TV. Couldn't play Amazon either. Sucks!
Sorry PixelDoc, I can't believe I missed this. Yes, the negative reviews were software related, install the newest version of Kodi and you should be back in business. Also those reviews you saw were probably for the X8-H version and not the X8-H Plus, there is actually a big difference. Not only do you get a much more powerful and advanced CPU that contains a 4K encoder but you also get a fast ethernet connection, 1,000 Gbit vs. 10/100Mbit, also the updated XBMC software which contains drivers for 4K. I've never heard of the HiMedia before you mentioned it, looks pretty good. There's actually a few of them out their that are more than capable on deliverying a first rate experince. I was introduced to the Minix by a friend so I gravitated towards it more than the others, I also found a local shop that sells and repairs them if needed.`
For Youtube on the iPad, you'd open a browser, go to m.youtube.com, tap the share button just left of the URL box and tap 'add to home screen' and name it Youtube or something. It won't be quite the same as having the app but with the app setup, the browser would always kick you out into the Youtube app to watch a video and you'd have to use the app switcher to get back to the browser. Now it's all in the browser.
The iPad 1 is 5 years old, beyond even the extended warranty period. If manufacturers support hardware after a certain time, it affects their accounting because it counts as costs. Publicly traded companies have to account for costs towards every product. Apple has mentioned supporting products for 4-5 years in their account filings. They changed tactics with the Mac and software support for Yosemite goes back to 2007-2009, that's about 8 years but they adjusted costs for doing that and for making Yosemite free.
You can get about $150-180 for the iPad 1 on eBay. A new iPad Air would be $400 so $220-250 upgrade. That should last another 5 years though and have a Retina display. A new iPad mini Retina (iPad mini 2 minimum) would be $120-150 upgrade. You can also shop around eBay for refurbs:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-iPad-Air-1st-Gen-16GB-WiFi-9-7in-Retina-Space-Gray-Black-or-White-Silver-/281672101978
You can get lower prices from Apple too but they won't always be in stock:
http://store.apple.com/us/product/FD785LL/B/refurbished-ipad-air-wi-fi-16gb-space-gray
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipad
Apple's ones will come with a full warranty though and would be in better condition.
It's like a metal lid forcibly sealing your coffee cup, and forcing you to watch a Wendy's commercial.
Just stupid.
First, no one is forcing you to use YouTube, just go to a different video site, oh wait, most of them are also uses ads to pay for the high costs of data centers and bandwidth or did you think those things were free. How would you suggest Google pay for it all, maybe an all subscription service, even for the none premium services, YouTube usage would shrink to 3/4ths it's size in a manner of seconds after that model was put into place. You have no problem calling foul on ads but aren't offering a reasonable alternative on how Google could give away terabytes of storage, data center maintence costs, personal costs to run the data centers, bandwidth usage, etc. without using ads to help pay for it all. The ads on YouTube are nothing more than a tiny nusance and I don't understand why it's such a huge deal, ads are everywhere and are a permanent part of our lives, let it be on bulletin boards, TV spots, newspapers, product placement in films, junk mail, etc. So why are ads on YouTube worse than any of those or do you also complain in some NBC forum about the ads yours seeing watching NCIS Rancho Cucamonga. I don't mean to come off as a jerk but you need to look at things realistically, it's not all about greed, there are actual costs associated with running a site like YouTube and their enormous, like it or not, ads help alleviate those costs.
First, no one is forcing you to use YouTube, just go to a different video site, oh wait, most of them are also uses ads to pay for the high costs of data centers and bandwidth or did you think those things were free. How would you suggest Google pay for it all, maybe an all subscription service, even for the none premium services, YouTube usage would shrink to 3/4ths it's size in a manner of seconds after that model was put into place. You have no problem calling foul on ads but aren't offering a reasonable alternative on how Google could give away terabytes of storage, data center maintence costs, personal costs to run the data centers, bandwidth usage, etc. without using ads to help pay for it all. The ads on YouTube are nothing more than a tiny nusance and I don't understand why it's such a huge deal, ads are everywhere and are a permanent part of our lives, let it be on bulletin boards, TV spots, newspapers, product placement in films, junk mail, etc. So why are ads on YouTube worse than any of those or do you also complain in some NBC forum about the ads yours seeing watching NCIS Rancho Cucamonga. I don't mean to come off as a jerk but you need to look at things realistically, it's not all about greed, there are actual costs associated with running a site like YouTube and their enormous, like it or not, ads help alleviate those costs.
Oooohhhhh I must have hit a nerve Mr. 1%-er. BTW maintence is actually spelled maintenance. If what you said were fully true YouTube would never made it as the ads were forced on us about two years ago YouTube is much older than that.
Face the FACTS bub... "THEY" already make money, and just want more of it. I liked it better when the ads were on banners, etc. and not in the vids.
The site was FAR more functional.
BTW you didn't come off as a jerk. You have your opinion, and I have mine.
Your "bub" is female BTW. You also probably meant to add the word "have" between "never" and "made".
[@]Relic[/@] is a bubette.
Oooohhhhh I must have hit a nerve Mr. 1%-er. BTW maintence is actually spelled maintenance. If what you said were fully true YouTube would never made it as the ads were forced on us about two years ago YouTube is much older than that.
Face the FACTS bub... "THEY" already make money, and just want more of it. I liked it better when the ads were on banners, etc. and not in the vids.
The site was FAR more functional.
There were banner ads in the YouTube app?
I never saw any.
Sorry for the late reply and thanks for getting back with more info.
Since you also read and speak German, here's the link to the German Amazon with the bad reviews for the X8-H Plus... if you're interested.
Too much work on my plate at the moment to look into this further myself and experiment. But hey! That's why we put up with you here, so we don't have to do the hard stuff...
Have a great one, whatever that "one" might be!
Thanks for the link, a lot of these problems seem to be associated with an out of date firmware. I did a lot of research before I bought mine, even got it from a local shop in case I needed to return it. So far I haven't ran into any problems that couldn't be fixed via a software update or by just reading the f'en manual, something I tend to be really horrible at doing. All in all I am very pleased with the MINIX or I wouldn't have recommemded it. Minix is one of the top producers of such devices with a very loyal following. I've noticed a lot of peoples problems is not due to the hardware but their ineptitude towards technology in general. They expect things to work a certain way and when they don't they freak, when all they had to do was spend a little time to customize the experience to their liking, that's what these devices are all about. Their not 100% cookie cutter solutions like the Apple TV or Amazon Fire TV is. The MINIX is a powerful media solution with many different possibilities for a single task, making it the perfect device for those who arent satisfied with only using what a company dictates as best for them. This also doesn't mean the MINIX isn't easy to setup because is, took me all of 30 min to add the apps I wanted and setup up the repositories in Kodi.
I also just bought another ARM box, similar to the MINIX. The UGOOS UT3S, contains a RK3288 chip which is a screamer, 4GB of memory which is the most memory I have seen as of yet in such a device, 32GB of storage, gigabit Ethernet, USB 3 ports, etc. It runs Ubuntu 14.10 and Android in a dual boot, which is why I bought it. I'm trying to go all in with ARM even with my desktop computers, so I plan on using this in conjunction with my Nvidia Jetson dev boards. It also makes a really good media player as you can install XBMC as a standalone OS. Which is really all you need to have a first rate multimedia experience. Though if you want to also run games than you can just boot into Android and go to town. The RK3288 is more than enough to play any game that's in the Google Play Store. Just another gadget for your TV to think about. It also costs about the same as the MINIX. I bought mine through GeekBuying, a site that's hard to visit do to all of the geeky goodies for sale.
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/UGOOS-UT3S-Android-4-4-RK3288-Smart-Media-Player-Quad-Core-HDMI-4G-32G-Gigabit-LAN-2-4GHz-5GHz-WiFi-802-11a-c-BT4-0---Red-344016.html
First I'm Swiss, English is not my native tongue, so there are bound to be mistakes in my spellings from time to time, it happens when you speak 4 Languages, especially when AppleInsider doesn't show the spell checker when using a tablet. Also calling out a simple spelling mistake just to make yourself look superior or try to make the other look like an idiot is just lame, please don't do it anymore, it's annoying on the highest calibre as well as being one of the lowest forms of debate tactics you can use in a forum discussion. Your better than that.
If you look at any statistics chart on YouTube usage you will see that it is going up exponential, in 2013, 2 years ago, YouTube had an average 100 hours of video uploaded every minute, by 2015 those numbers tripled to over 300, with future expectations of those numbers doubling by 2016. Which means a whole lot more servers and bandwidth will be needed. The model of old that you talk of is no longer sustainable with these type of usage numbers, nor can you expect Google to just take a loss and they will start to loose money quickly if they just gave away one of the most used web services on the planet without having some sort of income generating scheme. Again though, if you don't like it than don't use it, complaining about it won't change a thing. Really though, the ads take up just 4 seconds of your time, yes it's annoying but no more annoying than the other 100's of ads your bombarded with every day.
pls sue apple tv for removing youtube from older gen ! Apple published the support of youtube in its adv when they sold apple TV box. now Apple is breaking its specification and violating its commitment to their consumers.