Good luck with the 'clarification'. The ones that could clarify it are dead.
The constitution is clarified all the time as a process of constitutional law, challenge and voting in the supreme court. But it never leads to any changes or clarifications in the wording of the actual constitution, just a backlog of precedent that is nigh on impossible for a layman to interpret. That could use a tidy up and reconciliation.
Good luck with the 'clarification'. The ones that could clarify it are dead.
The constitution is clarified all the time as a process of constitutional law, challenge and voting in the supreme court. But it never leads to any changes or clarifications in the wording of the actual constitution, just a backlog of precedent that is nigh on impossible for a layman to interpret. That could use a tidy up and reconciliation.
Those 'clarifications' are often what the majority believe it means.
Snowden's disclosures, include non-domestic CIA and NSA classified information, about programs that have nothing to do with US citizens other than to protect them.
Unless he gave up the names and aliases of embedded agents, spoke to troop movements, or released anything of that sort, it’s still not treason.
Originally Posted by dasanman69
The Constitution is old. Everyone that wrote it is dead. Has no bearing in today's world.
Honestly, screw you. You always do nothing but toe the line between trolling and having a “differing opinion”, but this is just too blatantly obvious to ignore. Either you’re just trolling, in which case knock it off, or you actually believe this, in which case never vote again.
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”, but this is just too blatantly obvious to ignore. Either you’re just trolling, in which case knock it off, or you actually believe this, in which case never vote again.
First off, how are you? You haven't been on much. Secondly, I was being facetious. Apologies if it went over everyone's head.
The majority of the classified disclosures were related to our military capabilities, operations, tactics, techniques and procedures.
All of the ones detailing rampant spying that was either unconstitutional or undermining the U.S. as a leader and promoter of liberty and freedom. The U.S. has become the Galactic Empire because of fear.
All of the ones detailing rampant spying that was either unconstitutional or undermining the U.S. as a leader and promoter of liberty and freedom. The U.S. has become the Galactic Empire because of fear.
I don't disagree with that one bit.
I don't understand why nobody will agree that giving pages out of our battle playbook to our enemies harms us. Those disclosures have nothing to do with constitutional transgressions.
Snowden would have a lot better of a chance being a hero if he'd only disclosed the constitutional transgressions. Instead, he continues to release documents that could send some of our men and women home in a box.
I don't understand why nobody will agree that giving pages out of our battle playbook to our enemies harms us. Those disclosures have nothing to do with constitutional transgressions.
Snowden would have a lot better of a chance being a hero if he'd only disclosed the constitutional transgressions. Instead, he continues to release documents that could send some of our men and women home in a box.
Are you unaware of his many, many interviews in which he eloquently states just what you've asked for?
Then that would come out in a trial, and I may well be incorrect. It hinges on "aid and comfort." I do think there should be a trial.
I believe the only way Snowden would return to the U.S. would be under a negotiated surrender to a Rand Paul administration. Snowden would certainly still have to face charges, but I believe he'd receive leniency or an eventual pardon.
You haven't been on much. Secondly, I was being facetious. Apologies if it went over everyone's head.
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Are you claiming that he did not disclose classified military capabilities, operations, tactics, techniques and procedures?
Or are you claiming that doing so is not treason?
Are you a lawyer? Because "treason" has a very specific legal definition.
I have to ask why you dodged that question, because this is the crux of the matter for many people who, while they may have misgivings about some of the NSA activities that he shed light on, regard his wholesale release of unrelated classified matter as a serious crime.
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How'd he get that info? He stole it.
That's what SCOTUS is for along with the amendment process.
How'd he get that info? He stole it.
Hardly. He was given access to it, and it's still there.
Good luck with the 'clarification'. The ones that could clarify it are dead.
The constitution is clarified all the time as a process of constitutional law, challenge and voting in the supreme court. But it never leads to any changes or clarifications in the wording of the actual constitution, just a backlog of precedent that is nigh on impossible for a layman to interpret. That could use a tidy up and reconciliation.
Those 'clarifications' are often what the majority believe it means.
So he just emailed the files from his work account?
Then why is anyone worried about data breaches at Target, IRS, etc. The data is still on the servers. Nothing was stolen then.
You are dreadfully uninformed about both the Constitution and the amendment process:
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/constitution/
Snowden's disclosures, include non-domestic CIA and NSA classified information, about programs that have nothing to do with US citizens other than to protect them.
Unless he gave up the names and aliases of embedded agents, spoke to troop movements, or released anything of that sort, it’s still not treason.
Honestly, screw you. You always do nothing but toe the line between trolling and having a “differing opinion”, but this is just too blatantly obvious to ignore. Either you’re just trolling, in which case knock it off, or you actually believe this, in which case never vote again.
First off, how are you? You haven't been on much. Secondly, I was being facetious. Apologies if it went over everyone's head.
The majority of the classified disclosures were related to our military capabilities, operations, tactics, techniques and procedures.
All of the ones detailing rampant spying that was either unconstitutional or undermining the U.S. as a leader and promoter of liberty and freedom. The U.S. has become the Galactic Empire because of fear.
All of the ones detailing rampant spying that was either unconstitutional or undermining the U.S. as a leader and promoter of liberty and freedom. The U.S. has become the Galactic Empire because of fear.
I don't disagree with that one bit.
I don't understand why nobody will agree that giving pages out of our battle playbook to our enemies harms us. Those disclosures have nothing to do with constitutional transgressions.
Snowden would have a lot better of a chance being a hero if he'd only disclosed the constitutional transgressions. Instead, he continues to release documents that could send some of our men and women home in a box.
Are you unaware of his many, many interviews in which he eloquently states just what you've asked for?
I which he admits he disclosed material unrelated to the domestic programs that harms the US, and should be tried for treason?
You're really reaching.
You're really reaching.
Are you claiming that he did not disclose classified military capabilities, operations, tactics, techniques and procedures?
Or are you claiming that doing so is not treason?
Are you a lawyer? Because "treason" has a very specific legal definition.
Are you a lawyer? Because "treason" has a very specific legal definition.
Then that would come out in a trial, and I may well be incorrect. It hinges on "aid and comfort." I do think there should be a trial.
I believe the only way Snowden would return to the U.S. would be under a negotiated surrender to a Rand Paul administration. Snowden would certainly still have to face charges, but I believe he'd receive leniency or an eventual pardon.
Not good; probably comes through.
Geez, man, you can’t do that.
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" /> Ya gotta use a /s or ¡ There are people who believe that, you know.
Are you claiming that he did not disclose classified military capabilities, operations, tactics, techniques and procedures?
Or are you claiming that doing so is not treason?
Are you a lawyer? Because "treason" has a very specific legal definition.
I have to ask why you dodged that question, because this is the crux of the matter for many people who, while they may have misgivings about some of the NSA activities that he shed light on, regard his wholesale release of unrelated classified matter as a serious crime.