We will see how Apple Music pans out. Apple now launches new products and services with loads of features, letting consumers chose what they like most. Apple Watch and Apple Music are two good examples. As long as the profit margin can manage such broad set of features, I don't mind at all.
Family Plan alone is fantastic.
If the downloading of Albums is seamless, ie they are integrated with my own music, it will be great.
I wonder what the Radio station is about, I was actually quite happy with the Radio Stations (plural!) on the current App; does anyone know if we will lose those now?
For mobile users, Apple Music will be nice and snappy but for those that rely heavily on the desktop player, Spotify and others will probably run better.
Me thinks mobile is what really Apple is targeting anyways.
I think the majority of people (especially the millenials), listen to most of their music on the go.
And even when it's at home, it's likely controlled via a mobile device.
Desktop's not dead, but it probably is used more as a media server for content.
We will see how Apple Music pans out. Apple now launches new products and services with loads of features, letting consumers chose what they like most. Apple Watch and Apple Music are two good examples. As long as the profit margin can manage such broad set of features, I don't mind at all.
Family Plan alone is fantastic.
If the downloading of Albums is seamless, ie they are integrated with my own music, it will be great.
I wonder what the Radio station is about, I was actually quite happy with the Radio Stations (plural!) on the current App; does anyone know if we will lose those now?
There is Beats 1, as well as eighteen other predefined stations, and you can still name a song and have it make a station for you.
Good thing iOS doesn't have a majority marketshare.
Absolutely true, but they also did not have a majority Bookshop. The regulators are picky these days.... Anyway, I think I will like Apple Music, if it makes it easier to integrate own Music and "rented" music in one App, in one list.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Apple could've done the exact same thing to Rdio back when Apple revolutionized the music industry with iTunes. Oh wait a minute...Rdio wasn't even a twinkle in any of those executive's eyes at the time. Rdio is here because Apple made digital music a broad reality.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Apple could've done the exact same thing to Rdio back when Apple revolutionized the music industry with iTunes. Oh wait a minute...Rdio wasn't even a twinkle in any of those executive's eyes at the time. Rdio is here because Apple made digital music a broad reality.
Sort of like a squatter claiming he built the house.
I seriously doubt it. Weren't people saying this about the Apple radio service that launched a year ago? Pandora seems to be doing OK. I have been using Spotify for over a year now and legitimately love the service. It's not like the market is clamoring for something better like they were in 2010 for a tablet.
Apple has a better chance now they have an android client in the works, which not unlike when Apple had to swallow their pride when they launched iTunes for Windows.
When iTunes Radio launched a year ago I don't remember hearing much from the execs of competing services. Sure the press made noise, but this time its different. This time the noise is coming from the competition.
This time everybody knows its a different game. Apple Music is happening in two weeks and its happening in 100+ countries with >30M songs and videos. Its going to be a button on a billion iOS devices and desktops within months. Its a big big deal and its Apple's opportunity to win or lose in streaming.
Can't argue with this. And the muddled tone deaf presentation on Monday didn't help. Ben Thompson got it right when he said the music portion of the keynote showed a lack of focus. Even Jim Dalrymple said Jimmy Iovine and Drake were terrible and Iovine shouldn't be on stage at an Apple event again. The only positive argument I'm seeing for Apple Music is the power of defaults; that it will come installed on every device running iOS 8.4 or higher.
Nothing Apple announced was innovative but it didn't need to be. Music doesn't need to be a big deal. This is what Apple should have done: have Eddy Cue on stage for 10-15 minutes max, and in bullet point fashion describe all the features of Apple Music. Just a simple streaming service that has access to the vast iTunes catalog, that allows for offline playlists, an easy way to import playlists from other streaming services and a great deal on family pricing. Fold iTunes Radio into the services as the free with ads option. Skip the stupid global radio station and social media feature. Skip all this human curation nonsense (if people really cared about that Beats Music would have been more successful than it was). Just keep it simple and keep the app uncluttered. That's all Apple needed to do. It doesn't need to "revolutionize" music.
It still boggles my mind that Apple spent nearly 40 minutes on this when Phil Schiller said there was lots of stuff they cut from the keynote. So basically the iOS and OS X sections were cut short so Eddy Cue could spend 20 minutes giving us a demo of the music app. It boggles the mind. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Let's not forget Cue (and Iovine) thought it was a great idea to stick a U2 album in everyone's library as though they had purchased it and then later had to provide a tool for people to remove it if they wanted to. Bring Phil Schiller back on stage he's a much better stage presenter.
I completely agree with your sentiments. My thought when they spent so much time on Apple Music was, this is a developers meeting presentation. How are developers going to monetize Apple Music? I know the answer...They're not, so this was really just a product launch presentation and a poor one at that. Iovine may be a smart guy with chops in the music industry, but he didn't present himself or Apple or Apple Music well. My opinion was that this was the worst WWDC keynote in years, mostly because they cut some things short and the "one more thing" spoiled what I used to love about one more thing, that it was something exciting and unexpected.
[quote]He further criticized the originality of Apple's efforts. "When you look at where Apple has done remarkable things, it's when they do something new: the original Mac, the iPod, the iPhone, the iPad - those are all 'wow'.
"This is not that. This is another version of music," Bay remarked.[/quote]
Go where? I'm currently a paid Spotify subscriber and I'm very happy with the service. It's the height of arrogance to suggest they just need to go away because Apple now launched a subscription service of their own.
Maybe they should just come up with a model that doesn't decrease the revenue of those that create the product just so they can loose money, and make something for nothing consumers happy. I wonder how Spotify supporters would feel if an outside force decided to use your industry to destroy profits for everyone else while not even making one themselves and their salary was cut to make up the difference.
Sounds like the comments from competitors whenever Apple reveals what they know with be a hit. It buys them time to revamp before investors figure out how scared they really are.
Maybe they should just come up with a model that doesn't decrease the revenue of those that create the product just so they can loose money, and make something for nothing consumers happy. I wonder how Spotify supporters would feel if an outside force decided to use your industry to destroy profits for everyone else while not even making one themselves and their salary was cut to make up the difference.
I agree. The free membership with ad has a big potential to destroy music industry.
I remember Tim Cook was saying Music is in Apple's dna. In this case, it would be a shame for Apple not having a music streaming service. Apple cannot make the service significantly cheaper than the other music services because of the music market prices. However, Apple can make it different than the others. And they did it actually at the WWDC.
1. Apple music is not free. This is good for artists and the business.
2. Playlists will be created by actual people, not based on computer algorithms.
3. Apple music is offering Connect.
4. Apple music will be integrated to iOS. It perform much better than other music services' apps.
5. Apple's privacy policy applies Apple music as well. Can the others offer same kind of privacy?
These reasons are good enough to show that Apple music is better than the others. If the price is the same I would and many people will prefer Apple Music over others.
Apple should make the Apple Music exclusice for Apple devices. I think making the app for android is not cool and doesn't feel right. Just like iMessage, it works only on Apple devices.
Ballmer ridiculed the iPhone when it first came out. Nokia and HTC satirized and ridiculed the iPhone 5C. Samsung did the same heavily to the iPhone.
I'm not suggesting that anyone to satirizes and ridicules Apple will fail... but when you choose to satirize, and the object of your satire goes on to enjoy huge success, while you either tread water or decline in growth... well... you look bad.
That's why, in my personal opinion, it's better to brag about your stuff simply, rather than also making fun of Apple's.
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We will see how Apple Music pans out. Apple now launches new products and services with loads of features, letting consumers chose what they like most. Apple Watch and Apple Music are two good examples. As long as the profit margin can manage such broad set of features, I don't mind at all.
Family Plan alone is fantastic.
If the downloading of Albums is seamless, ie they are integrated with my own music, it will be great.
I wonder what the Radio station is about, I was actually quite happy with the Radio Stations (plural!) on the current App; does anyone know if we will lose those now?
For mobile users, Apple Music will be nice and snappy but for those that rely heavily on the desktop player, Spotify and others will probably run better.
Me thinks mobile is what really Apple is targeting anyways.
I think the majority of people (especially the millenials), listen to most of their music on the go.
And even when it's at home, it's likely controlled via a mobile device.
Desktop's not dead, but it probably is used more as a media server for content.
We will see how Apple Music pans out. Apple now launches new products and services with loads of features, letting consumers chose what they like most. Apple Watch and Apple Music are two good examples. As long as the profit margin can manage such broad set of features, I don't mind at all.
Family Plan alone is fantastic.
If the downloading of Albums is seamless, ie they are integrated with my own music, it will be great.
I wonder what the Radio station is about, I was actually quite happy with the Radio Stations (plural!) on the current App; does anyone know if we will lose those now?
There is Beats 1, as well as eighteen other predefined stations, and you can still name a song and have it make a station for you.
Good thing iOS doesn't have a majority marketshare.
Absolutely true, but they also did not have a majority Bookshop. The regulators are picky these days.... Anyway, I think I will like Apple Music, if it makes it easier to integrate own Music and "rented" music in one App, in one list.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Apple could've done the exact same thing to Rdio back when Apple revolutionized the music industry with iTunes. Oh wait a minute...Rdio wasn't even a twinkle in any of those executive's eyes at the time. Rdio is here because Apple made digital music a broad reality.
Sort of like a squatter claiming he built the house.
I seriously doubt it. Weren't people saying this about the Apple radio service that launched a year ago? Pandora seems to be doing OK. I have been using Spotify for over a year now and legitimately love the service. It's not like the market is clamoring for something better like they were in 2010 for a tablet.
Apple has a better chance now they have an android client in the works, which not unlike when Apple had to swallow their pride when they launched iTunes for Windows.
When iTunes Radio launched a year ago I don't remember hearing much from the execs of competing services. Sure the press made noise, but this time its different. This time the noise is coming from the competition.
This time everybody knows its a different game. Apple Music is happening in two weeks and its happening in 100+ countries with >30M songs and videos. Its going to be a button on a billion iOS devices and desktops within months. Its a big big deal and its Apple's opportunity to win or lose in streaming.
Can't argue with this. And the muddled tone deaf presentation on Monday didn't help. Ben Thompson got it right when he said the music portion of the keynote showed a lack of focus. Even Jim Dalrymple said Jimmy Iovine and Drake were terrible and Iovine shouldn't be on stage at an Apple event again. The only positive argument I'm seeing for Apple Music is the power of defaults; that it will come installed on every device running iOS 8.4 or higher.
Nothing Apple announced was innovative but it didn't need to be. Music doesn't need to be a big deal. This is what Apple should have done: have Eddy Cue on stage for 10-15 minutes max, and in bullet point fashion describe all the features of Apple Music. Just a simple streaming service that has access to the vast iTunes catalog, that allows for offline playlists, an easy way to import playlists from other streaming services and a great deal on family pricing. Fold iTunes Radio into the services as the free with ads option. Skip the stupid global radio station and social media feature. Skip all this human curation nonsense (if people really cared about that Beats Music would have been more successful than it was). Just keep it simple and keep the app uncluttered. That's all Apple needed to do. It doesn't need to "revolutionize" music.
It still boggles my mind that Apple spent nearly 40 minutes on this when Phil Schiller said there was lots of stuff they cut from the keynote. So basically the iOS and OS X sections were cut short so Eddy Cue could spend 20 minutes giving us a demo of the music app. It boggles the mind. But maybe I shouldn't be surprised. Let's not forget Cue (and Iovine) thought it was a great idea to stick a U2 album in everyone's library as though they had purchased it and then later had to provide a tool for people to remove it if they wanted to. Bring Phil Schiller back on stage he's a much better stage presenter.
I completely agree with your sentiments. My thought when they spent so much time on Apple Music was, this is a developers meeting presentation. How are developers going to monetize Apple Music? I know the answer...They're not, so this was really just a product launch presentation and a poor one at that. Iovine may be a smart guy with chops in the music industry, but he didn't present himself or Apple or Apple Music well. My opinion was that this was the worst WWDC keynote in years, mostly because they cut some things short and the "one more thing" spoiled what I used to love about one more thing, that it was something exciting and unexpected.
"This is not that. This is another version of music," Bay remarked.[/quote]
Sounds like someone is scared.
Apple has no where near a monopoly-level type of market share.
Go where? I'm currently a paid Spotify subscriber and I'm very happy with the service. It's the height of arrogance to suggest they just need to go away because Apple now launched a subscription service of their own.
Maybe they should just come up with a model that doesn't decrease the revenue of those that create the product just so they can loose money, and make something for nothing consumers happy. I wonder how Spotify supporters would feel if an outside force decided to use your industry to destroy profits for everyone else while not even making one themselves and their salary was cut to make up the difference.
Sounds like someone is scared.
Sounds like the comments from competitors whenever Apple reveals what they know with be a hit. It buys them time to revamp before investors figure out how scared they really are.
I agree. The free membership with ad has a big potential to destroy music industry.
1. Apple music is not free. This is good for artists and the business.
2. Playlists will be created by actual people, not based on computer algorithms.
3. Apple music is offering Connect.
4. Apple music will be integrated to iOS. It perform much better than other music services' apps.
5. Apple's privacy policy applies Apple music as well. Can the others offer same kind of privacy?
These reasons are good enough to show that Apple music is better than the others. If the price is the same I would and many people will prefer Apple Music over others.
Apple should make the Apple Music exclusice for Apple devices. I think making the app for android is not cool and doesn't feel right. Just like iMessage, it works only on Apple devices.
Satire and ridicule, huh?
Ballmer ridiculed the iPhone when it first came out. Nokia and HTC satirized and ridiculed the iPhone 5C. Samsung did the same heavily to the iPhone.
I'm not suggesting that anyone to satirizes and ridicules Apple will fail... but when you choose to satirize, and the object of your satire goes on to enjoy huge success, while you either tread water or decline in growth... well... you look bad.
That's why, in my personal opinion, it's better to brag about your stuff simply, rather than also making fun of Apple's.
And when they do, then what?
As much as I want that to happen, I doubt Android/Windows whatever is going away anytime soon.