I think this whole thing is going too far. What if the young man who brutally kill those 9 people in SC was barring flag of United States and said he is doing this for US of A. Would we be banning flag of United States? And like people mentioned earlier - What about the SS Nazi flag or even KKK flags? I mean if someone wants to buy Confederate flag then can just go down to Brazil and buy one? Are we now going to put Confederate flag on contraband list like Cuban cigars were for many years?
Removal of the flag is not the solution to the whole problem of racism - Let's focus on the real problem!
I think this whole thing is going too far. What if the young man who brutally kill those 9 people in SC was barring flag of United States and said he is doing this for US of A. Would we be banning flag of United States?
Is the US flag widely recognized as symbolizing racism and slavery?
You guys are forgetting that many areas already forbid displaying prominently the United States flag. It might make some illegal immigrants, err, I mean, undocumented Obama supporters uncomfortable.
I thought Apple was a liberal company that supported free speech and First Amendment rights. Should Apple next remove any apps that reference the Bible since some people find the bible offensive?
stop w/ the act, already -- you already know Apple doesnt allow porn in their store, which youre probably OK with.
as much as i disagree with them, it's their freaking store. private property. and unlike w/ people, there are no issues of protected classes at play, here.
Nobody flies it. It is used symbolically and dramatically, but it is not flow. Actually, it probably is being used and even flown by some neo nazis around the globe, but it is viewed by the general public as insulting and highly distastefu.
I don't see anything racist about that query. I also think it's a valid question. It's a slippery slope when you start banning items. Getting the capital to stop waving the flag I can get behind. eBay and Amazon stopping the sale of Confederate memorabilia I can get behind. Apple stopping the sale of app that show that flag starts to become a problem because apps are memorabilia. I think companies have the right to sell the products they want to sell, but where does that end. Do they also stop selling apps that are about history that in no way support the Confederacy or are nurtural, as history lessons should try to be? Amazon and eBay didn't stop the sale of books about the US Civil War, did they? Did Apple clear out all such mention in their iBookstore? It's a weird position since Tim Cook made his tweet and Amazon and eBay made their policy change because it forced Apple's hand here on the "art" of apps regardless off the context of its usage. If Apple didn't follow their lead it would look hypocritical.
As for "the n-word" is more racist to write this string of 6 letters or utter the sequence of phonemes in a contextually neutral or passive stamtent, or to instead make an obliquely racist comment with terms like "those people"? I'd rather we get rid of the silly, cultural acceptance of certain words can be only used by certain people if they have previously been maligned by history. That isn't reverse racism but racism, because you're saying that certain people have rights that others don't have based on no other criteria than this foolish notion of "race". As long as make certain terms taboo and unbalanced we will never be able to neutralize it and therefore never be able to get past it.
"The company denied issuing a blanket ban however, stating that the flag can be shown for "educational or historical uses."
According to Louis Farrakhan it is. And indeed, it did fly over a slave nation a lot longer than those of the Confederacy.
No one is stopping you from flying the Confederate flag on your own front lawn. Get a grip. I thought you believed in a free market. Let the market figure it out....right?
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Don't try to change history.
I think this whole thing is going too far. What if the young man who brutally kill those 9 people in SC was barring flag of United States and said he is doing this for US of A. Would we be banning flag of United States? And like people mentioned earlier - What about the SS Nazi flag or even KKK flags? I mean if someone wants to buy Confederate flag then can just go down to Brazil and buy one? Are we now going to put Confederate flag on contraband list like Cuban cigars were for many years?
Removal of the flag is not the solution to the whole problem of racism - Let's focus on the real problem!
We go after the flag because we cannot go after guns. It is what humans do to alleviate their guilt when stuck in fear.
I think this whole thing is going too far. What if the young man who brutally kill those 9 people in SC was barring flag of United States and said he is doing this for US of A. Would we be banning flag of United States?
Is the US flag widely recognized as symbolizing racism and slavery?
A gun is in inanimate object and can't do a damn thing without a human being involved.
stop w/ the act, already -- you already know Apple doesnt allow porn in their store, which youre probably OK with.
as much as i disagree with them, it's their freaking store. private property. and unlike w/ people, there are no issues of protected classes at play, here.
Nobody flies it. It is used symbolically and dramatically, but it is not flow. Actually, it probably is being used and even flown by some neo nazis around the globe, but it is viewed by the general public as insulting and highly distastefu.
I don't see anything racist about that query. I also think it's a valid question. It's a slippery slope when you start banning items. Getting the capital to stop waving the flag I can get behind. eBay and Amazon stopping the sale of Confederate memorabilia I can get behind. Apple stopping the sale of app that show that flag starts to become a problem because apps are memorabilia. I think companies have the right to sell the products they want to sell, but where does that end. Do they also stop selling apps that are about history that in no way support the Confederacy or are nurtural, as history lessons should try to be? Amazon and eBay didn't stop the sale of books about the US Civil War, did they? Did Apple clear out all such mention in their iBookstore? It's a weird position since Tim Cook made his tweet and Amazon and eBay made their policy change because it forced Apple's hand here on the "art" of apps regardless off the context of its usage. If Apple didn't follow their lead it would look hypocritical.
As for "the n-word" is more racist to write this string of 6 letters or utter the sequence of phonemes in a contextually neutral or passive stamtent, or to instead make an obliquely racist comment with terms like "those people"? I'd rather we get rid of the silly, cultural acceptance of certain words can be only used by certain people if they have previously been maligned by history. That isn't reverse racism but racism, because you're saying that certain people have rights that others don't have based on no other criteria than this foolish notion of "race". As long as make certain terms taboo and unbalanced we will never be able to neutralize it and therefore never be able to get past it.
"The company denied issuing a blanket ban however, stating that the flag can be shown for "educational or historical uses."
According to Louis Farrakhan it is. And indeed, it did fly over a slave nation a lot longer than those of the Confederacy.
Civil War games dont portray good guys & bad guys -- they portray a nation at war, in which there were two armies, with two different flags.
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A gun is in inanimate object and can't do a damn thing without a human being involved.
Unlike a flag.
According to Louis Farrakhan it is. And indeed, it did fly over a slave nation a lot longer than those of the Confederacy.
I said "widely".
disagree on this -- its not racist to point out that the iTunes stores for movies & music have very different rules than for software. why is this?
disagree on this -- its not racist to point out that the iTunes stores for movies & music has very different rules than for software. why is this?
Those aren't the comments to which I was referring.
not a 1st amend issue, since this isnt government restriction, and is rather inventory in a private marketplace.
According to Louis Farrakhan it is. And indeed, it did fly over a slave nation a lot longer than those of the Confederacy.
No one is stopping you from flying the Confederate flag on your own front lawn. Get a grip. I thought you believed in a free market. Let the market figure it out....right?
Civil War games dont portray good guys & bad guys -- they portal a nation at war, in which there were two armies, with two different flags.
For games that fit that description I'd agree it would be a mistake for Apple to remove them.
This is ridiculous. Who decides what's offensive? Are they gonna ban football (NFL) apps because they mention Redskins?
Not about being offensive. It is about the loss of revenue.