After crushing rival smartwatch sales, Apple Watch portrayed as doomed by CNBC

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  • Reply 21 of 217
    multimediamultimedia Posts: 1,061member
    inkling wrote: »
    Hilarious! Look at that line of people waiting for their first chance to get an Apple Watch. Wow, there must be at least thirty people in line. I've seen many times that waiting in line when all Apple was doing was opening a new store and giving away free t-shirts. That leaves me wondering if CNBC is more in touch than AppleInsider.

    Smartwatches are a technology whose time hasn't come. Can you really cram enough user input and output into a small watch face to make the gadget worthwhile for most users? So far, that's not been demonstrated. The Apple Watch is what it is being marketed as, a pricey style accessory not a useful tool for most people.

    That said, Apple will probably benefit from its investment. Some of the techniques it was forced to develop for its smartwatch may prove more valuable on its other devices. And by dominating this still immature market, Apple makes it harder for a competitor to take over the smart watch market like the iPhone took over the smartphone market. It's guarding its rear and flanks.

    You have no inkling about what you are writing about. ?WATCH is an extremely useful tool right now. Consider time telling, haptic alarm alerts, haptic timer alerts, incoming iMessage haptic alerts, incoming phone call haptic alerts, outside temperature and future weather info, etc etc. These features alone make wearing an ?WATCH an awesome blast. Yet all you naysayers can come up with are stupid rationalizations for not owning one.??????????????????????????
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  • Reply 22 of 217
    solipsismysolipsismy Posts: 5,099member
    inkling wrote: »
    Smartwatches are a technology whose time hasn't come.

    What are your criteria for a time that has come? If you go by unit sales or percentage of the market then the personal computer, personal computer with a GUI and mouse, the iPod and the iPhone all hadn't arrived when Apple entered the market.
    Can you really cram enough user input and output into a small watch face to make the gadget worthwhile for most users?

    Your considering just the watch face as being the only way inout and output can be obtained. Your thinking about it like a regular watch. That shows an inherent problem with your perception of the device and its utility.

    Motion is input, and the vibrations and sounds are output. As stated, ad nauseam, the biggest benefit of Apple Watch is that it allows you to use your iPhone less. I'm guessing you read that last line and wondered why you'd want to do that? Consider this common scenario. You're sitting down and your iPhone is in your front pocket. It vibrates. You have a message. But whom is that message from? You don't know, but because there is a chance it's something important or time sensitive you will likely stand up and reach into your pocket to check your iPhone. With Watch you can simply turn your wrist slightly instead. This not only allows me to "check" the data that comes on my phone more quickly, but also not waste time in making sure it's not important or time-sensitive data, as well as better tracking my health and many other time saving features.

    My one line review when asked about Apple Watch is: "It's unnecessary, but it's indispensable." When you understand what I mean by that you will either be ready to by an Apple Watch or, likely, already own one.
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  • Reply 23 of 217
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    You should change your "name". It's misleading because I don't even think you've got one.


     

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    You have no inkling about what you are writing about.

     

    Nice generalizations, folks!

     

     

    Unless you disagree with his comment that Watch technologies will benefit other Apple products, he does appear to have an 'inkling' of the future. :rolleyes:

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  • Reply 24 of 217
    pscooter63pscooter63 Posts: 1,084member
    inkling wrote: »
    Hilarious...

    It's a real shame that you waste your otherwise admirable wordsmithing skills on such faulty premises. Have you even made a trip to The Summit to try one?
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  • Reply 25 of 217
    jd mbajd mba Posts: 38member
    Saying that Apple is crushing rival smartwatch sales, is like saying you are the best at the special olympics. Either way, I'm going to wait and see how smartwatches develop over the next few generations to even remotely consider buying one.
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  • Reply 26 of 217
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    jd mba wrote: »
    Saying that Apple is crushing rival smartwatch sales, is like saying you are the best at the special olympics. Either way, I'm going to wait and see how smartwatches develop over the next few generations to even remotely consider buying one.

    No, it isn't and that old joke is inappropriate.
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  • Reply 27 of 217
    pogo007 wrote: »
    Well it's very successful. I think it will be a matter of time before it starts losing popularity. When people start realizing it doesn't do much they will stop using it.

    Seer alert! Seer alert! Wow, we have a trendspotting seer in our midst!

    Hallelujah!!
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  • Reply 28 of 217
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    Lies. Damn lies. And statistics.
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  • Reply 29 of 217
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    inkling wrote: »
    . The Apple Watch is what it is being marketed as, a pricey style accessory not a useful tool for most people.

    You have any scientific studies or surveys to back that up? Apple watch is advertised for what it is. If users expect it to replace their iPhone, then that's on the users.
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  • Reply 30 of 217
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 20,419member
    mac_dog wrote: »
    of those trashing the watch, i wonder how many have actually seen & used one.

    i happened to see one the other day—ss milanese 38mm. what a magnificent piece of art. amazing interface—just the timing of the transitions alone.
    it really is a quality piece of jewelry and well worth the money. if i had the money, would buy one just to keep time.


    Not one, I'll bet. Likely couldn't afford one, I'll bet.

    It is truly a marvel. A fabulously delicate, unobtrusive, classy, technologically advanced marvel.
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  • Reply 31 of 217
    blazarblazar Posts: 270member
    The real news is that "reporting" has become meaningless nonsense. The watch will be fine...
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  • Reply 32 of 217

    I sure wish some people could prove that CNBC has a bunch of lying bastards on their shows.  It's too bad Apple can't sue them for libel and defamation or something.  They really enjoy going after Apple while totally ignoring Apple's rival companies.  I suppose any sort of poor reporting is allowed on the internet without having to suffer any consequences.  That's why I think Apple needs to acquire some sort of bad press control to disprove some of these ridiculous stories.  At this point I doubt that any smartwatch comes close to perfection but then CNBC needs to go after all smartwatches as being failures.  I don't ever recall Apple saying they could sell tens of millions of AppleWatches this year, but I'm sure some analysts were saying those things based on their own projections without knowing much about the new smartwatch market.  If Apple doesn't match those high analyst figures soon enough then the AppleWatch is claimed to be some failure and that isn't quite fair.

     

    I'm sure the AppleWatch must do what Apple claims it to do in terms of function and I don't see how that makes it a failure.  Consumers should know what to expect when they buy one and if it doesn't meet their expectations, they're certainly welcome to return it.  Has there been an excess of returns of AppleWatch?  As far as AppleWatch sales are concerned, they could be very likely be seasonal and AppleWatch hasn't been out for even two full quarters, so I would say any claims that AppleWatch sales are poor would be premature.  CNBC is going to get away clean for criticizing AppleWatch and calling it a failure.  They haven't even done this type of criticism for Google Glass.  So many pundits are pessimistic over Apple's future but that's simply a belief and there's no actual proof Apple doesn't have a future.  I've read about many companies who were claimed to have extremely bright futures and they failed.  The future is always in flux and can never be assured to turn out as predicted.

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  • Reply 33 of 217
    [QUOTE]It's so unflattering to compare Apple's Watch sales to the existing market for wearables from every other vendor that CNBC decided to instead compare Apple's initial Watch demand to iPhone 6.[/QUOTE]

    I should point out this was flawgic perpetrated by a certain BANNED forum member who use that completely irrational and unrealistic goalpost to declare the watch a failure before it even went on sale.
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  • Reply 34 of 217
    syrran wrote: »
    Wow. His CNBC bio says he attended George Washington University and majored in business. If it's true that he misunderstood that only 11 people were interviewed, while it was 850 survey questions (and it is not clear if all were asked), not "850 surveyed" that is a damning indictment of the the George Washington University How could a business hire these graduates if they can't even get basic facts straight in order to reason to a justified conclusion. You would be risking your business entrusting anything to somebody like this. GW is supposed to be a decent school. I am very disappointed.

    Maybe he should have majored in statistics and probability instead.
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  • Reply 35 of 217
    Not one, I'll bet. Likely couldn't afford one, I'll bet.

    Don't make it like that.
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  • Reply 36 of 217
    slurpyslurpy Posts: 5,398member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Inkling View Post



    Hilarious! Look at that line of people waiting for their first chance to get an Apple Watch. Wow, there must be at least thirty people in line. I've seen many times that waiting in line when all Apple was doing was opening a new store and giving away free t-shirts. That leaves me wondering if CNBC is more in touch than AppleInsider.



    Smartwatches are a technology whose time hasn't come. 

     

    So when the **** does the time magically "come"? You have to start somewhere, don't you? By all accounts the Apple Watch is head and shoulders beyond anything else out there, and it has now at least established itself and is in people's minds. I remember so many on this forum (and others all around the internet) bitching and whining the past 2 years about how Apple wasn't "innovating", point at all the smartwatches and wondering why Apple didn't have an answer, and demanding a new product category.  When Apple finally comes out with its watch, after carefully taking its time and considering every aspect, now "it's time hasn't come". What fucking horse-shit. I know several people that own an Apple Watch, and every single one of them love the product and say it exceeded their expectations. It performs its advertised functions extremely well, and you're judging it on something it does not pretend to be. In a couple more months, its capabilities will also be extended greatly through software. The Apple Watch is coalescing a massive ecosystem, that will make every other wrist gadget look like a toy. 

     

    Stop trolling. Noone cares what you choose not to buy, but stop smearing an excellent product because you have so little imagination and can't see past your own use cases. 

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  • Reply 37 of 217
    slurpy wrote: »
    Stop trolling. Noone cares what you choose not to buy, but stop smearing an excellent product because you have so little imagination and can't see past your own use cases. 

    You need to learn many things, but the definition of trolling is paramount among them. Trolling is not dissent from The Slurpy Path.
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  • Reply 38 of 217
    monstrositymonstrosity Posts: 2,234member

    I'm VERY pleased with mine. Just for notifications alone, it's worth every penny.

     

    Today I discovered it taps me on the wrist just before a junction when using maps. Love it :)

     

    For those of you saying it's a "fad", how very wrong you are. In-fact the reverse is more likely, with the bulk of the processing power eventually on your wrist, and an external screen which replaces the iPhone. Long time away sure, but I see that happening.

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  • Reply 39 of 217
    wizard69wizard69 Posts: 13,377member
    Attended and graduated are two different things. That beings said many American colleges have huge ethical problems graduating people that shouldn't. Further many professors are under a lot of pressure to be politically correct and support the fascist administration in Washington. So don't assume that GW is free to offer diplomas in a ethical way.
    syrran wrote: »
    Wow. His CNBC bio says he attended George Washington University and majored in business. If it's true that he misunderstood that only 11 people were interviewed, while it was 850 survey questions (and it is not clear if all were asked), not "850 surveyed" that is a damning indictment of the the George Washington University How could a business hire these graduates if they can't even get basic facts straight in order to reason to a justified conclusion. You would be risking your business entrusting anything to somebody like this. GW is supposed to be a decent school. I am very disappointed.

    Frankly liberalism has made college diplomas about as valuable as a high school diploma these years. The pressure to graduate individuals that don't deserve the degree is extremely high these days. I think the problem started back in the 1970's when the entire focus of the high school educational system was to get the students to go to college. The ultimate following on to this movement was the idea that everybody has a right to a college education. Now it has become an entitlement where students go to college expecting a degree no matter how much effort they put into it. It is really a pathetic change of course in the American educational system.
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  • Reply 40 of 217
    tommikeletommikele Posts: 599member
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    Nice generalizations, folks!

     

     

    Unless you disagree with his comment that Watch technologies will benefit other Apple products, he does appear to have an 'inkling' of the future. :rolleyes:




    He may have an inkling with respect to the future, but he certainly can't see his nose in front of his face in the present.

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