Well, I plan to buy an Apple Watch; just not yet. I believe there are a lot of other people in the same position. I don't live where there is a store and they were not available for purchase the last time I was in a store. It could be I will wait for the 2nd iteration.
My main interest is in a 2 new MacBooks, a MacMini, a New Router, and a new phone with the New Chip. I don't see going out and buying them when the need is not critical because the new ones are almost here.
As for CNN, we all know they are not forthright with their surveys - neither are they with retractions.
Well it's very successful. I think it will be a matter of time before it starts losing popularity. When people start realizing it doesn't do much they will stop using it. It will be just like the iPad which started great and it took a few years for people to realize it's just a big iphone and that our iphone's can pretty much do the same exact thing. For the past few years I've only been using a MacBook Air and iPhone and I pretty much get everything done.
Can't agree more. Really didn't see how useful it is, especially when it has to be bonded with iPhone.
I'm afraid the Apple Watch is just one more hook to keep people currently in the Apple ecosystem stuck there.
Singapore lines are quite good < 100. But the article said is the longest lines around the world for Apple watch. Actually, South Korea was the longest. It ran in hundreds. One of the Korean sensation popstar Shinee's Key lined up at #97.
What do you expect? It's the conservative wing of NBC Properties. It's the FOX News of NBC.
Troll harder.
I watch CNBC -- well, I have it on in the background, occasionally paying it glancing attention -- a lot when at home. I think the Fox News analogy is quite apt. A lot of agenda-driven, stream-of-consciousness nonsense.
Much of the US news media is pretty sad and shallow, but Fox and CNBC lead that race.
My 67 year old mom, 40 year old wife, and 5 year old daughter all use iPads exclusively. Mom never used computers before. Wife switched from PC and never looked back. True they are not power users, don't create content, but there are many more consumers than creators, and iPad perfectly addresses that market. So your single opinion is not representative.
Not disagreeing here, just adding to your remarks.
You can create content on an iPad. Not quite as deeply as with other tech, but I'm surprised at what one can do with it.
I show up because unlike many I actually own and use or my family owns and uses all of these products. I have never commented on an Apple product or any product for that matter that I have not owned or someone in my family have owned and used.
Native apps are very good, 3rd party apps are weak. My iPhone links to my iPad, iPad Mini and my Mac. There is never a time when I don't have at least one of those in a room with me or in my office. My phone comes with me to lunch. The Apple Watch is by far the most limited because there is only so much you can do on a 2x2 inch device.
Everything you listed that the Apple Watch can do without an iPhone is already everything I can already do, this is the problem, this is why it's simply a device that is not needed and why there isn't the excitement you often see with new Apple products.
The Apple Watch at least to me is only one thing, redundant. The younger generations don't want to use it, Facebook isn't available, twitter an Instagram are both far better on the iPhone, no Snapchat.
On the flip side my wife loves it which is why I got for her.
Having worked on super computers since I was 19 including one that was awarded the 2009 National Metal of Technology and Innovation I guess my bar for a technology marvel might be on the high side. Then again who cares about protein folding and human DNA mapping when you can build an awesome watch strap.
I notice that you avoided a couple of key questions that I asked. Whatever..... (didn't expect anything different).
We're supposed to be impressed that you've working with supercomputing since you're 19? Big f'in deal. There are a lot of equally -- if not more -- accomplished people here.
Incidentally, Apple has arguably mattered more to the world on just about any attribute you'd like to articulate, compared to all the supercomputers put together. Most of them have been taxpayer-funded boondoggles anyway, which is the reason that this overhyped industry stalled in the US, and China/Japan have taken the lead.
Give me an Apple over a Cray any day.
(I had not read the brilliant post -- #80 -- by spock1234 above before I posted this response to AltApple.)
This is a niche product. It's not simple or appealing. Even if the Apple Watch stomps all others, I doubt it will have great traction.
I won't list the reasons why, just stating a prediction. I won't buy one after owning Apple products for a long time. They should have constrained the choices and colors and prices. And constrained the capabilities. Apple has always been about constraint. Not to be dogmatic, but how on early do you remember what this app and that app does on your watch?
The issue is going to come up with forced touch with the phone. What apps have it and what dont' what how to do it with each app.
Apple: keep ti simple at the risk of looking stupid. Keep it simple. Make hard look easy.
Why bother with actual facts. Such a waste of time.
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I notice that you avoided a couple of key questions that I asked. Whatever..... (didn't expect anything different).
We're supposed to be impressed that you've working with supercomputing since you're 19? Big f'in deal. There are a lot of equally -- if not more -- accomplished people here.
Incidentally, Apple has arguably mattered more to the world on just about any attribute you'd like to articulate, compared to all the supercomputers put together. Most of them have been taxpayer-funded boondoggles anyway, which is the reason that this overhyped industry stalled in the US, and China/Japan have taken the lead.
Give me an Apple over a Cray any day.
(I had not read the brilliant post -- #80 -- by spock1234 above before I posted this response to AltApple.)
No you're not suppose to be impressed by my profession or super computers. It just puts into perspective what is really ground breaking technology and what isn't.
However your comment about boondoggles is really funny. IBM projects like Waston and BlueGene/L, P and Q are bigger then anything Apple will ever designed, they are true innovations that have changed the world and continue to do so.
We are talking about little things like mapping out human DNA, protein folding, cancer research. You think Apple has an ecosystem, you have never seen a real ecosystem.
Humans lived for millions and millions of years without social networking, iPhones and most of the technology we used today. I am sure there are many on this forum that can remember a time when you had to go home to actually call someone, no cable tv, microwaves, cordless phones, VCR, DVD plays. And yet we all somehow survived just fine.
No you're not suppose to be impressed by my profession or super computers. It just puts into perspective what is really ground breaking technology and what isn't.
However your comment about boondoggles is really funny. IBM projects like Waston and BlueGene/L, P and Q are bigger then anything Apple will ever designed, they are true innovations that have changed the world and continue to do so.
We are talking about little things like mapping out human DNA, protein folding, cancer research. You think Apple has an ecosystem, you have never seen a real ecosystem.
Humans lived for millions and millions of years without social networking, iPhones and most of the technology we used today. I am sure there are many on this forum that can remember a time when you had to go home to actually call someone, no cable tv, microwaves, cordless phones, VCR, DVD plays. And yet we all somehow survived just fine.
Yeah, by the same token, we've lived millions and millions of years without mapping out the human DNA, protein folding, and cancer research too.
What a shocking post from you, considering in pretty much every single one of your posts you're shitting on Apple and their products, and pessimistic about their future. Sad how you choose to spend your time. Also, that's quite the twisted logic you're using. As Apple Watch gains more features and more adoption, it will "lose popularity"? Unlike someone like you that basis all statements on ignorance, I'm pretty sure those who buy it have a good idea of what it can and can't do.
As for these reports, par for the course. Remember the 74,028 reports in 2012-2014 that stated that Apple was on a steep decline with iPhone, and Samsung would soon utterly destroy Apple in all the metrics that matter? Since then, iPhone sales have blown up and Samsung's flagship phones have collapsed. Or that Apple had zero iPhone "growth left" - but today is destroying YoY numbers by 40-50%? The list goes on and on. These analysts do not understand Apple, have never understood them, and couldn't manage to even create a successful business if their lives depended on it.
I've been a little disappointed in Apple since Steve Job's died. Steve had a eye for what works and what doesn't. Same for the Walt Disney company, I loved disney but when Walt died the company suffered lack of innovation which took more than 10 years to recover. I own a Mac consultation business and believe me I know what I'm talking about more than 70% of you guys on here. My corporate customers are starting to worry about the direction Apple is going.
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My main interest is in a 2 new MacBooks, a MacMini, a New Router, and a new phone with the New Chip. I don't see going out and buying them when the need is not critical because the new ones are almost here.
As for CNN, we all know they are not forthright with their surveys - neither are they with retractions.
...I actually own...
...that I have not owned...
...when I don't have at least one of those...
...My phone comes with me...
...everything I can already do...
...at least to me...
...I guess my bar...
All right, we're fully up to date on the situation in AtlApple land.
Now, back to the discussion of how the watch is doing in the real world...
Well it's very successful. I think it will be a matter of time before it starts losing popularity. When people start realizing it doesn't do much they will stop using it. It will be just like the iPad which started great and it took a few years for people to realize it's just a big iphone and that our iphone's can pretty much do the same exact thing. For the past few years I've only been using a MacBook Air and iPhone and I pretty much get everything done.
Can't agree more. Really didn't see how useful it is, especially when it has to be bonded with iPhone.
I'm afraid the Apple Watch is just one more hook to keep people currently in the Apple ecosystem stuck there.
http://www.koreaboo.com/sns/shinees-key-shows-off-his-new-apple-watch-gets-spotted-in-line-to-get-it/
Written like a smitten fanboy. AI doesn't have an iota of CNBC's journalistic street cred. Grow up AI!
You're not even going to give us one refute on the article. Shocked!
Who knew there was actually a "CNBC fanboy"?
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What do you expect? It's the conservative wing of NBC Properties. It's the FOX News of NBC.
Troll harder.
I watch CNBC -- well, I have it on in the background, occasionally paying it glancing attention -- a lot when at home. I think the Fox News analogy is quite apt. A lot of agenda-driven, stream-of-consciousness nonsense.
Much of the US news media is pretty sad and shallow, but Fox and CNBC lead that race.
No trolling there, I am afraid.
Not disagreeing here, just adding to your remarks.
You can create content on an iPad. Not quite as deeply as with other tech, but I'm surprised at what one can do with it.
I show up because unlike many I actually own and use or my family owns and uses all of these products. I have never commented on an Apple product or any product for that matter that I have not owned or someone in my family have owned and used.
Native apps are very good, 3rd party apps are weak. My iPhone links to my iPad, iPad Mini and my Mac. There is never a time when I don't have at least one of those in a room with me or in my office. My phone comes with me to lunch. The Apple Watch is by far the most limited because there is only so much you can do on a 2x2 inch device.
Everything you listed that the Apple Watch can do without an iPhone is already everything I can already do, this is the problem, this is why it's simply a device that is not needed and why there isn't the excitement you often see with new Apple products.
The Apple Watch at least to me is only one thing, redundant. The younger generations don't want to use it, Facebook isn't available, twitter an Instagram are both far better on the iPhone, no Snapchat.
On the flip side my wife loves it which is why I got for her.
Having worked on super computers since I was 19 including one that was awarded the 2009 National Metal of Technology and Innovation I guess my bar for a technology marvel might be on the high side. Then again who cares about protein folding and human DNA mapping when you can build an awesome watch strap.
I notice that you avoided a couple of key questions that I asked. Whatever..... (didn't expect anything different).
We're supposed to be impressed that you've working with supercomputing since you're 19? Big f'in deal. There are a lot of equally -- if not more -- accomplished people here.
Incidentally, Apple has arguably mattered more to the world on just about any attribute you'd like to articulate, compared to all the supercomputers put together. Most of them have been taxpayer-funded boondoggles anyway, which is the reason that this overhyped industry stalled in the US, and China/Japan have taken the lead.
Give me an Apple over a Cray any day.
(I had not read the brilliant post -- #80 -- by spock1234 above before I posted this response to AltApple.)
Journalism and reporting is dead.
When you don't have to pay for the news, you can't expect much in return.
Ethics, and integrity are in short supply. Why would a reporter care or worry about the truth.
The only thing they're accountable for, are the number of page views they've generated.
Really didn't see how useful it is, especially when it has to be bonded with iPhone.
Um... it doesn't have to be 'bonded'.
Why bother with actual facts. Such a waste of time.
Written like a smitten fanboy. AI doesn't have an iota of CNBC's journalistic street cred. Grow up AI!
Please enlighten us on this street cred?
Nobody will buy Apple Watches because they're too popular.
Written like a smitten fanboy. AI doesn't have an iota of CNBC's journalistic street cred. Grow up AI!
I assume you mean the street cred where you inflate 11 people to a study of 850 plus...
This is a niche product. It's not simple or appealing. Even if the Apple Watch stomps all others, I doubt it will have great traction.
I won't list the reasons why, just stating a prediction. I won't buy one after owning Apple products for a long time. They should have constrained the choices and colors and prices. And constrained the capabilities. Apple has always been about constraint. Not to be dogmatic, but how on early do you remember what this app and that app does on your watch?
The issue is going to come up with forced touch with the phone. What apps have it and what dont' what how to do it with each app.
Apple: keep ti simple at the risk of looking stupid. Keep it simple. Make hard look easy.
All right, we're fully up to date on the situation in AtlApple land.
Now, back to the discussion of how the watch is doing in the real world...
Follow the tread then maybe you will grasp the understanding of putting something into context.
Um... it doesn't have to be 'bonded'.
Why bother with actual facts. Such a waste of time.
I notice that you avoided a couple of key questions that I asked. Whatever..... (didn't expect anything different).
We're supposed to be impressed that you've working with supercomputing since you're 19? Big f'in deal. There are a lot of equally -- if not more -- accomplished people here.
Incidentally, Apple has arguably mattered more to the world on just about any attribute you'd like to articulate, compared to all the supercomputers put together. Most of them have been taxpayer-funded boondoggles anyway, which is the reason that this overhyped industry stalled in the US, and China/Japan have taken the lead.
Give me an Apple over a Cray any day.
(I had not read the brilliant post -- #80 -- by spock1234 above before I posted this response to AltApple.)
No you're not suppose to be impressed by my profession or super computers. It just puts into perspective what is really ground breaking technology and what isn't.
However your comment about boondoggles is really funny. IBM projects like Waston and BlueGene/L, P and Q are bigger then anything Apple will ever designed, they are true innovations that have changed the world and continue to do so.
We are talking about little things like mapping out human DNA, protein folding, cancer research. You think Apple has an ecosystem, you have never seen a real ecosystem.
Humans lived for millions and millions of years without social networking, iPhones and most of the technology we used today. I am sure there are many on this forum that can remember a time when you had to go home to actually call someone, no cable tv, microwaves, cordless phones, VCR, DVD plays. And yet we all somehow survived just fine.
No you're not suppose to be impressed by my profession or super computers. It just puts into perspective what is really ground breaking technology and what isn't.
However your comment about boondoggles is really funny. IBM projects like Waston and BlueGene/L, P and Q are bigger then anything Apple will ever designed, they are true innovations that have changed the world and continue to do so.
We are talking about little things like mapping out human DNA, protein folding, cancer research. You think Apple has an ecosystem, you have never seen a real ecosystem.
Humans lived for millions and millions of years without social networking, iPhones and most of the technology we used today. I am sure there are many on this forum that can remember a time when you had to go home to actually call someone, no cable tv, microwaves, cordless phones, VCR, DVD plays. And yet we all somehow survived just fine.
Yeah, by the same token, we've lived millions and millions of years without mapping out the human DNA, protein folding, and cancer research too.
Do you have a point, except for cheap bombast?
Follow the tread then maybe you will grasp the understanding of putting something into context.
Your posts in this thread are Exhibit A for lack of understanding of context.
Read post #80. Maybe you will learn something.
I've been a little disappointed in Apple since Steve Job's died. Steve had a eye for what works and what doesn't. Same for the Walt Disney company, I loved disney but when Walt died the company suffered lack of innovation which took more than 10 years to recover. I own a Mac consultation business and believe me I know what I'm talking about more than 70% of you guys on here. My corporate customers are starting to worry about the direction Apple is going.