This is a niche product. It's not simple or appealing. Even if the Apple Watch stomps all others, I doubt it will have great traction.
I won't list the reasons why, just stating a prediction. I won't buy one after owning Apple products for a long time. They should have constrained the choices and colors and prices. And constrained the capabilities. Apple has always been about constraint. Not to be dogmatic, but how on early do you remember what this app and that app does on your watch?
how do we do remember? well, start by getting one and using it..... until youve done that, youre just spewing bullshit.
No you're not suppose to be impressed by my profession or super computers. It just puts into perspective what is really ground breaking technology and what isn't.
wait -- so because you were a lab assistant at age 19, youre now qualified to tell us that super computing is groundbreaking while computer miniaturization is not? that they are -- somehow -- mutually exclusive, and only one can break ground at a given time? holy shit....have you told anyone else this!??
I've been a little disappointed in Apple since Steve Job's died. Steve had a eye for what works and what doesn't. Same for the Walt Disney company, I loved disney but when Walt died the company suffered lack of innovation which took more than 10 years to recover. I own a Mac consultation business and believe me I know what I'm talking about more than 70% of you guys on here. My corporate customers are starting to worry about the direction Apple is going.
if you were so tuned into apple culture, youd realize what a tired trope "since steve jobs died" is. pure trollbait.
It's weird that the minute someone has a valid argument you call him a troll. You probably just a average user that knows very little about technology. I am also sure your the type of guy who waits in line for days to get the newest iphone. Get a life and have a valid argument when you reply to someone's post instead of saying his a troll. For the record I've probably been using Apple products longer than you.
I did get one, and it is well worth the money! Start saving! I got the Sport 38, and it is so light, cute, and does everything the other models do. SO good!
Wow. His CNBC bio says he attended George Washington University and majored in business. If it's true that he misunderstood that only 11 people were interviewed, while it was 850 survey questions (and it is not clear if all were asked), not "850 surveyed" that is a damning indictment of the the George Washington University How could a business hire these graduates if they can't even get basic facts straight in order to reason to a justified conclusion. You would be risking your business entrusting anything to somebody like this. GW is supposed to be a decent school. I am very disappointed.
What do you expect from a far left liberal channel like CNBC? Liberals aren't good with facts.
Why do people keep comparing CNBC and FOX? If the comparison is because they're both full of shit then I think a more apt comparison would be to MSNBC or CNN as CNBC is left of center on just about everything.
CNN and MSNBC are full of it too with their left wing biased. It's painful to watch morons on CNN like Carol Costello or Don Lemon. The reality is, good journalism is dead in this country unfortunately.
Completely agree! I imagine this year or next Apple will keep the same form but expand with more colours. And maybe bands, as the third party offerings are still ugly and cheap. I really hope Swatch etc release watchfaces too!
Completely agree! I imagine this year or next Apple will keep the same form but expand with more colours. And maybe bands, as the third party offerings are still ugly and cheap. I really hope Swatch etc release watchfaces too!
I'm sure new bands are coming. My guess is we won't see the next gen Apple Watch until the 3 or 4 quarters in 2016. WatchOS 2 looks really promising with native apps. I hope in the future, third party developers will be able to make custom watch faces. Native apps (which are coming) and third party custom watch faces are my biggest wants for the Apple Watch.
I'm sure new bands are coming. My guess is we won't see the next gen Apple Watch until the 3 or 4 quarters in 2016. WatchOS 2 looks really promising with native apps. I hope in the future, third party developers will be able to make custom watch faces. Native apps (which are coming) and third party custom watch faces are my biggest wants for the Apple Watch.
So we go from watchOS 1.0 being released to watchOS 2.0 being announced and demoed within 45 days, but will have to wait 700 to 800 days between seeing the 1st and 2nd gen Apple Watches? I guess anything can happen since getting watchOS 2.0 demoed 45 days after Apple Watch launched was unusual, but I'd have to think Apple will not let this profit center stagnate for 2 to 2.25 years between HW announcements.
while still a cuff, i have the Qardio, which can BT connect to the AW.
Hey - thanks for that !
Looks great
Edit: About 18 months ago I searched for a long time for alternatives to the rinky dink battery pumps after discarding them completely as being an utter waste of time.
This looks excellent. Ordered one a few minutes ago.
So we go from watchOS 1.0 being released to watchOS 2.0 being announced and demoed within 45 days, but will have to wait 700 to 800 days between seeing the 1st and 2nd gen Apple Watches? I guess anything can happen since getting watchOS 2.0 demoed 45 days after Apple Watch launched was unusual, but I'd have to think Apple will not let this profit center stagnate for 2 to 2.25 years between HW announcements.
It's obviously just a wild guess, but we won't be seeing watchOS 2 until the fall. My guess is Apple will announce the specific release date during the fall keynote for the new iPhone release. I just wonder if Apple will actually announce a new watch this fall? They could, but I think Apple announces a new watch in the spring of 2016 for a summer release. The current watch is still being introduced to new markets. With the second generation watch more likely to be less dependent on the iPhone, I think Apple waits longer between release to refine it more.
I could not agree more with these two opinions. The wearable category as a whole is not ready for primetime in a mass use. Generally speaking and without any official numbers at this point, the only demographic who uses these devices are the techno-files of the world. Even Apple with its genius marketing department has not found a use (not a technology) to make it worth the price.
The Apple Watch is no Ping service and is more successful out of the cage but I do wonder at the longevity of the product itself. Nobody has yet to make a wearable device that is actually useful.
What nonsense.
The activity tracker use case is mainstream -- even my senior citizen parents want fitbits, aka wearables.
Yes I agree Steve had his failures but very early on in his career. As for the watch I think the greatest disappointment is that the watch cannot be used on its own it needs to be tethered to a iphone to be useful. There's a argument out there that says your watch just tells the time, we'll that's true if I'm at a meeting I can discreetly look at the time without being sucked in to other notifications I guess that's still the main advantage of a traditional watch.
1) Ping wasn't early in his career, nor hi fi, nor mobile me. Do you even know who steve jobs was? His early career was the late 70s.
2) there isn't battery tech to allow cellular on the watch right now. We all understand this. It's not a cause of failure.
3) it's still hella useful, especially as activity tracker, wireless iPod, and contactless payment device.
4) you don't get sucked into notifications on the watch.
5) try using one sometime before spouting more nonsense.
The activity tracker use case is mainstream -- even my senior citizen parents want fitbits, aka wearables.
Btw, it's spelled technophile.
I think we can all agree that buying an Apple Watch for the sole purpose of exercise tracking is overkill, which you would have known already if you actually read the substance of my post and subsequent replies. Fitbit has a very good app for the iPhone. When was the last time you were at the gym and a 72 year old on the treadmill next to you had no place to put his/her iPhone while waiting for an all important email or Facebook notification to come in?
The wearable category as a whole is not ready for primetime in a mass use.
The market isn't ready because you'e not ready. Got it!
Generally speaking and without any official numbers at this point,
There are no official numbers but are you saying it's selling worse than the original iPhone or iPod? I guess those devices were "not ready for primetime" and I have a strong feeling you thought Apple was foolish then, too.
...the only demographic who uses these devices are the techno-files of the world.
Techno-files[sic] are the only one that use fitness trackers or wear watches? You may need to rethink that.
Even Apple with its genius marketing department has not found a use (not a technology) to make it worth the price.
Ah, so we're back to implying that Apple is only good at marketing. Don't forget that they have simply gotten lucky in the past.
The Apple Watch is no Ping service and is more successful out of the cage but I do wonder at the longevity of the product itself.
Did you say that about the original iPod? How about the Mac any other new Apple HW category
Nobody has yet to make a wearable device that is actually useful.
I find it very useful. It's the first thing I put on in the morning and the last thing I take off. It keeps track of my activity level much better than my iPhone ever could (a benefit to being on your wrist, but you'd have to seriously consider it or any fitness tracker before you'd come to that conclusion, and it's saved me a lot of time. But I'm not here to convince you to buy one, just as i wasn't there to convince you or anyone else to buy the original iPad, iPhone or iPod. It will sell itself (which its clearly doing as supply is still outstripping demand) and it will get better, at which point in the future you'll probably think that because you held out or because you complained on a message board that Apple changed their development plans to suit your needs. Good luck with that.
I'm sure new bands are coming. My guess is we won't see the next gen Apple Watch until the 3 or 4 quarters in 2016. WatchOS 2 looks really promising with native apps. I hope in the future, third party developers will be able to make custom watch faces. Native apps (which are coming) and third party custom watch faces are my biggest wants for the Apple Watch.
I'm amazed at how well presented Apple Watch is! The Pebble seemed like a great collection of ideas, but just like Android Waer, just looks unfinished somehow. I'd also love to see some watch makers release specual edition bands for the Apple Watch, too. It's really a coup that competitors could support Apple to earn profits. I'm amazed at how Apple has managed to turn the Watch into a physical version of iTunes and the App Store!
I wear my watch every day and it is a awesome extension of my phone and other pieces of technology.
I have no complaints about it's functions, operations or design. I have no regrets about buying it, and in reality it is one of the nicest pieces of technology I have had the pleasure of using.
May I ask, out of pure curiosity, what exactly you use your watch for? How is the watch adding to the productivity of your day?
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how do we do remember? well, start by getting one and using it..... until youve done that, youre just spewing bullshit.
wait -- so because you were a lab assistant at age 19, youre now qualified to tell us that super computing is groundbreaking while computer miniaturization is not? that they are -- somehow -- mutually exclusive, and only one can break ground at a given time? holy shit....have you told anyone else this!??
if you were so tuned into apple culture, youd realize what a tired trope "since steve jobs died" is. pure trollbait.
this is pure troll-dom. please stop.
I did get one, and it is well worth the money! Start saving! I got the Sport 38, and it is so light, cute, and does everything the other models do. SO good!
Wow. His CNBC bio says he attended George Washington University and majored in business. If it's true that he misunderstood that only 11 people were interviewed, while it was 850 survey questions (and it is not clear if all were asked), not "850 surveyed" that is a damning indictment of the the George Washington University How could a business hire these graduates if they can't even get basic facts straight in order to reason to a justified conclusion. You would be risking your business entrusting anything to somebody like this. GW is supposed to be a decent school. I am very disappointed.
What do you expect from a far left liberal channel like CNBC? Liberals aren't good with facts.
Why do people keep comparing CNBC and FOX? If the comparison is because they're both full of shit then I think a more apt comparison would be to MSNBC or CNN as CNBC is left of center on just about everything.
CNN and MSNBC are full of it too with their left wing biased. It's painful to watch morons on CNN like Carol Costello or Don Lemon. The reality is, good journalism is dead in this country unfortunately.
Completely agree! I imagine this year or next Apple will keep the same form but expand with more colours. And maybe bands, as the third party offerings are still ugly and cheap. I really hope Swatch etc release watchfaces too!
I think Daniel Eran Dilger does a good job
Completely agree! I imagine this year or next Apple will keep the same form but expand with more colours. And maybe bands, as the third party offerings are still ugly and cheap. I really hope Swatch etc release watchfaces too!
I'm sure new bands are coming. My guess is we won't see the next gen Apple Watch until the 3 or 4 quarters in 2016. WatchOS 2 looks really promising with native apps. I hope in the future, third party developers will be able to make custom watch faces. Native apps (which are coming) and third party custom watch faces are my biggest wants for the Apple Watch.
So we go from watchOS 1.0 being released to watchOS 2.0 being announced and demoed within 45 days, but will have to wait 700 to 800 days between seeing the 1st and 2nd gen Apple Watches? I guess anything can happen since getting watchOS 2.0 demoed 45 days after Apple Watch launched was unusual, but I'd have to think Apple will not let this profit center stagnate for 2 to 2.25 years between HW announcements.
Hey - thanks for that !
Looks great
Edit: About 18 months ago I searched for a long time for alternatives to the rinky dink battery pumps after discarding them completely as being an utter waste of time.
This looks excellent. Ordered one a few minutes ago.
So we go from watchOS 1.0 being released to watchOS 2.0 being announced and demoed within 45 days, but will have to wait 700 to 800 days between seeing the 1st and 2nd gen Apple Watches? I guess anything can happen since getting watchOS 2.0 demoed 45 days after Apple Watch launched was unusual, but I'd have to think Apple will not let this profit center stagnate for 2 to 2.25 years between HW announcements.
It's obviously just a wild guess, but we won't be seeing watchOS 2 until the fall. My guess is Apple will announce the specific release date during the fall keynote for the new iPhone release. I just wonder if Apple will actually announce a new watch this fall? They could, but I think Apple announces a new watch in the spring of 2016 for a summer release. The current watch is still being introduced to new markets. With the second generation watch more likely to be less dependent on the iPhone, I think Apple waits longer between release to refine it more.
What nonsense.
The activity tracker use case is mainstream -- even my senior citizen parents want fitbits, aka wearables.
Btw, it's spelled technophile.
Again please let's just keep it to debating opinions and topics.
1) Ping wasn't early in his career, nor hi fi, nor mobile me. Do you even know who steve jobs was? His early career was the late 70s.
2) there isn't battery tech to allow cellular on the watch right now. We all understand this. It's not a cause of failure.
3) it's still hella useful, especially as activity tracker, wireless iPod, and contactless payment device.
4) you don't get sucked into notifications on the watch.
5) try using one sometime before spouting more nonsense.
What nonsense.
The activity tracker use case is mainstream -- even my senior citizen parents want fitbits, aka wearables.
Btw, it's spelled technophile.
I think we can all agree that buying an Apple Watch for the sole purpose of exercise tracking is overkill, which you would have known already if you actually read the substance of my post and subsequent replies. Fitbit has a very good app for the iPhone. When was the last time you were at the gym and a 72 year old on the treadmill next to you had no place to put his/her iPhone while waiting for an all important email or Facebook notification to come in?
The market isn't ready because you'e not ready. Got it!
There are no official numbers but are you saying it's selling worse than the original iPhone or iPod? I guess those devices were "not ready for primetime" and I have a strong feeling you thought Apple was foolish then, too.
Techno-files[sic] are the only one that use fitness trackers or wear watches? You may need to rethink that.
Ah, so we're back to implying that Apple is only good at marketing. Don't forget that they have simply gotten lucky in the past.
Did you say that about the original iPod? How about the Mac any other new Apple HW category
I find it very useful. It's the first thing I put on in the morning and the last thing I take off. It keeps track of my activity level much better than my iPhone ever could (a benefit to being on your wrist, but you'd have to seriously consider it or any fitness tracker before you'd come to that conclusion, and it's saved me a lot of time. But I'm not here to convince you to buy one, just as i wasn't there to convince you or anyone else to buy the original iPad, iPhone or iPod. It will sell itself (which its clearly doing as supply is still outstripping demand) and it will get better, at which point in the future you'll probably think that because you held out or because you complained on a message board that Apple changed their development plans to suit your needs. Good luck with that.
I'm amazed at how well presented Apple Watch is! The Pebble seemed like a great collection of ideas, but just like Android Waer, just looks unfinished somehow. I'd also love to see some watch makers release specual edition bands for the Apple Watch, too. It's really a coup that competitors could support Apple to earn profits. I'm amazed at how Apple has managed to turn the Watch into a physical version of iTunes and the App Store!
I wear my watch every day and it is a awesome extension of my phone and other pieces of technology.
I have no complaints about it's functions, operations or design. I have no regrets about buying it, and in reality it is one of the nicest pieces of technology I have had the pleasure of using.
May I ask, out of pure curiosity, what exactly you use your watch for? How is the watch adding to the productivity of your day?