It's time to uninstall Adobe's Flash from your Mac - here's how

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  • Reply 21 of 117
    freerangefreerange Posts: 1,597member
    Isn't enabling automatic updates in and of itself a vulnerability that could be potentially exploited by a hack that finds a vulnerability in Adobe' update system?
  • Reply 22 of 117
    [quote]Then perhaps you should take a long, hard look at your life choices.[/quote]

    This seems like an unnecessary slam...
  • Reply 23 of 117
    vavatchvavatch Posts: 26member
    I'll never forget the day Adobe announcing they were buying Macromedia, arguably the trashiest of the major software companies of its day. I said to myself, Adobe may gain something in the short term by killing off their key competitor to Photoshop and Illustrator, but by taking on Flash, and even more foolishly promoting that piss poor pile of crap, that are also hanging an albatross round their necks that will haunt them for a years to come.

    I could not agree more. It is time to sunset Flash. Formally kill it, and the stragglers reliant on it will have no choice but to get with the programme, or drift into obscurity, if not become fodder for angry mobs of villagers (afflicted users) with pitchforks and torches in the night, come to show them what for!
    anton zuykov
  • Reply 24 of 117
    BBC News still insists on Flash if you're using a desktop. It's why I dumped BBC News from my shortcuts.
  • Reply 25 of 117
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member

    So Steve was right back in 2010. I remember his manifesto was excoriated and ridiculed by the tech press. They predicted Apple’s doom without Flash on iOS. The fAndroids went on and on about the ‘real’ Internet and such. These bozos always wind up with egg smeared all over their faces eventually. So much for Flash, so much for ‘open’ vs the walled garden, so much for just about everything the techies say about Apple. Techies are losers.

  • Reply 26 of 117
    palominepalomine Posts: 363member
    Linda.com is a video training site, I believe they use Flash exclusively. What happens to their content I wonder? Is there a way they can port existing content to some other format? What a headache for them!

    Supposedly because there is so much granular detail, screen-in- screen demonstrations of video software, they claim that other platforms are unsuitable.
  • Reply 27 of 117
    lkrupp wrote: »
    So Steve was right back in 2010. I remember his manifesto was excoriated and ridiculed by the tech press. They predicted Apple’s doom without Flash on iOS. The fAndroids went on and on about the ‘real’ Internet and such. These bozos always wind up with egg smeared all over their faces eventually. So much for Flash, so much for ‘open’ vs the walled garden, so much for just about everything the techies say about Apple. Techies are losers.

    http://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/
  • Reply 28 of 117
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,416member
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    Originally Posted by cornchip View Post





    The sad thing is, you're probably right. It's the same reason I had to learn Rhino instead of SolidWorks in school. It's because that's what the professor knew, and so that's what got taught. I could have taken the SolidWorks elective, but it never came around at the right time. Oh well, my company just bought a few seats of SolidWorks so it's all good I guess

    Rhino is more for Industrial Design and Art in my opinion, whereas SolidWorks is targeted at mechanical design for manufacture. With T-splines, you can import NURB surfaces into SolidWorks without issue; best of both worlds. The same might be said for Modo, but you have to use their export to SolidWorks workflow.

     

    Autodesk owns T-Splines, and Siemens owns Parasolids, the kernel for SolidWorks.

  • Reply 29 of 117
    phone-ui-guyphone-ui-guy Posts: 1,019member
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    Originally Posted by DaveN View Post



    Timely editorial. I actually removed Flash last night. Then is went to a critical web site I use and one key part used Flash. Big sigh. I reluctantly reinstalled Flash. Now I'm going to install Click to Flash.

     

    If you use safari and trust the site you are using flash on, you can set the site to always use flash and have it disabled for all other sites.

     

    Safari -> Preferences -> Security -> Allow Internet Plug-ins [x] -> Website settings

     

    Some sites won't load their HTML equivalent if flash is disabled for some reason, but you can enable the Developer menu in Safari and tell Safari to advertise it is an iPad, iPhone, etc when that happens. I have one site at work that they just won't get updated. I actually leave all plug-ins disabled and only turn it on for the very rare occasion that I need to use one. So once I enable them, then my whitelist is used. Plus by doing that sites usually load the plug-in free experience.

  • Reply 30 of 117

    Java is the #1 - #3 server-side programming language in use in the world (depending on metrics). That's different than Java on the UI, which I reluctantly agree needs to die. JavaScript is the #1 client-side programming language by a large margin.

     

    https://pypl.github.io/PYPL.html

    http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

    http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all

  • Reply 31 of 117
    am8449am8449 Posts: 392member
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    Originally Posted by sheepguy42 View Post



    I get that these vulnerabilities are newly reported, but the idea that Flash is a stone around its users' necks is not new. I've been Flash free since Gruber gave detailed instructions back in 2010: http://daringfireball.net/2010/11/flash_free_and_cheating_with_google_chrome



    Ditto.

     

    Flash is a cpu-intensive, battery draining memory hog. My Macs have been much happier being Flash-free.

  • Reply 32 of 117
    vavatchvavatch Posts: 26member
    Java is the #1 - #3 server-side programming language in use in the world (depending on metrics). That's different than Java on the UI, which I reluctantly agree needs to die. JavaScript is the #1 client-side programming language by a large margin.

    https://pypl.github.io/PYPL.html
    http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html
    http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/programming_language/all

    Java and JavaScript have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in common whatsoever except part of their names.
  • Reply 33 of 117
    jcm722jcm722 Posts: 40member

    Everything about Flash is awful. The update process can be complicated for some, unless you use Chrome. Flash only works well with Windows. It has always been a problem with OS X and Linux, in my experiences. It is time for Flash to die.

  • Reply 34 of 117
    And all Apple-haters have done for years is criticize them for not putting Flash on iPhone, now maybe people will finally see why, in addition to it being a battery life killer...
  • Reply 35 of 117
    chadbagchadbag Posts: 2,008member
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    Originally Posted by Vavatch View Post





    Java and JavaScript have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in common whatsoever except part of their names.

     

    Don't think anyone said they did.

  • Reply 36 of 117
    adonissmuadonissmu Posts: 1,776member
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    Originally Posted by Vavatch View Post





    Java and JavaScript have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in common whatsoever except part of their names.

    Java used to have Java Applets on the Front End. Yahoo Games used to use them extensively. The user didn't say anything about Java and Javascript having anything in common. 

     

    I am unable to find the plugins tab in Chrome. I'm getting angry because It use Chrome alot. 

  • Reply 37 of 117
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    Originally Posted by Vavatch View Post





    Java and JavaScript have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in common whatsoever except part of their names.

     

    I mentioned JavaScript due to its being predominately a client-side programming language - like Flash.

  • Reply 38 of 117
    konqerrorkonqerror Posts: 685member
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    Originally Posted by cornchip View Post



     Oh well, my company just bought a few seats of SolidWorks so it's all good I guess

     

    SolidWorks is awful and has been abandonware for the last 5 years. People only learn SolidWorks because that's what they've been taught. As you recall, it was purchased by Dassault in 1997 and since then they've been trying to migrate it over to become CATIA lite. As tmay pointed out, it uses their competitor's solid modeling engine. Only problem is that CATIA is a completely incompatible change with a different engine, and second CATIA is a client-server environment, which means SolidWorks will become a subscription cloud environment.

     

    At work, we dumped SolidWorks for Siemens NX (the lite version is SolidEdge) and everybody agreed it was better, especially since we didn't have the annual incompatible update madness.

  • Reply 39 of 117
    mstonemstone Posts: 11,510member
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    Originally Posted by palomine View Post



    Linda.com is a video training site, I believe they use Flash exclusively. What happens to their content I wonder? Is there a way they can port existing content to some other format? What a headache for them!



    Supposedly because there is so much granular detail, screen-in- screen demonstrations of video software, they claim that other platforms are unsuitable.



    I use Lynda all the time. Really excellent content. They do have an iOS app, although I have never used it so I don't know if it has the same transcript integration, which is one the Flash-centric aspects of the platform. I prefer the desktop with a large monitor. I makes learning complex topics like software development easier because you can see the details and also pause the video to test the code on your own.

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