I am wondering what would Jack Bauer and Chloe do under this kind of situation. The whole 24 series would fall apart. Would JB point his gun at someone and yell "there is no enough time" and "now tell me..." etc.
Funny I was just thinking about this scenario. And yes, Jack Bauer would be pointing a gun at Tim Cook's head after abducting from his home and driving him to his office at 3AM at Apple. If Cook didn't comply, Bauer would brutally assault him while the engineering team looked on. Threatening each one of them one-by-one. And they would have less than 24 hours to comply in order for Bauer to unlock the phone and thwart the next terrorist attack.
Which brings me to the next thing ... if the government is filing against Apple, and corporations are people in the eyes of the law, what happens if "Apple" doesn't comply? Does the company go to jail? Or do its officers go to jail? Or all of its employees? Or do they just take the company away from everyone and not let anyone in to go to work?
"The FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system, circumventing several important security features, and install it on an iPhone recovered during the investigation," Cook wrote. "In the wrong hands, this software -- which does not exist today -- would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone's physical possession."
The FBI couldn't protect the country against 911 despite the fact that the attackers were "under survellance". The result after that historic failure are new laws that for the first time in American history circumvent 'habeus corpus'. And we now all live in a country where all citizens' have their personal information and communications surveilled 24/7. With cameras watching us on every street corner. Where we have to take our shoes and belts off and be subject to bodily search just to fly home for the holidays. And yet where they cannot protect us from identity theft, phone fraud or having our personal data stolen from hackers in other countries.
If we give everything gov't law enforcement agencies want, America will be by definition a surveillance police state. Where companies like Apple are legally forced to work for them. Rather than protect the privacy of their customers. This "overreach" by the FBI and their political cronies in Washington is going to permanently alter this country - beyond recognizability as we lose more and more of our rights - if leaders like Tim Cook don't stand up to them.
Fk'n morons - they twist the facts to support their position and make a statement that couldn't be further from the truth -
The DOJ went on to say that Apple's refusal to cooperate is "based on its concern for its business model and public brand marketing strategy."
This has FK all to do with their business model or brand strategy - it is Apple's intense belief that individuals should have the absolute right to protect their personal data. Period. Unfortunately, the DOJ is playing to the continued dumbing down of America that as a whole has little insight into the underlying issues of why it is so important for us to be able to secure our personal data.
The way it looks to me, this is headed to the US Supreme Court. Maybe just the thing for the new court to dig into once POTUS makes his nomination, and the Senate confirms.
"Rather than assist the effort to fully investigate a deadly terrorist attack by obeying this court's order of February 16, 2016, Apple has responded by publicly repudiating that order," the DOJ filing states.
F**k you DOJ. The nerve of these a$$hats. They think the constitution is more guidelines than a rules. Try taking guns away from law-abiding citizens too while you're at it and see how well that goes too.
The DOJ is going down a super-slippery slope. I suppose that eventually, technology (and encryption) would reach a point where the government feels it's handcuffed by their own citizens. Cry me a river.
Unbelievable that they think this is okay. No matter how they try to sugarcoat it.
The DOJ is one of the most corrupt departments in the government today, and that's saying a lot.
Pound sand, Lynch.
I see this going to the Supreme Court. But if it's a 4-4 ruling then we're nowhere. Perhaps congress needs to get involved.
Depends on how fast it makes it there. Just needs to hold out until Feb 2017, really, as the vacancy will likely be filled by then (and hopefully by a constitutionalist).
Frak you, DOJ. If you force Apple to make a backdoor, don't blame Apple when your iPhones get compromised. Clueless politicians at work. You can't force a company to weaken security. Then again, these frakkers have no issue loosening our immigration laws.
"The FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system, circumventing several important security features, and install it on an iPhone recovered during the investigation," Cook wrote. "In the wrong hands, this software -- which does not exist today -- would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone's physical possession."
The FBI couldn't protect the country against 911 despite the fact that the attackers were "under survellance". The result after that historic failure are new laws that for the first time in American history circumvent 'habeus corpus'. And we now all live in a country where all citizens' have their personal information and communications surveilled 24/7. With cameras watching us on every street corner. Where we have to take our shoes and belts off and be subject to bodily search just to fly home for the holidays. And yet where they cannot protect us from identity theft, phone fraud or having our personal data stolen from hackers in other countries.
If we give everything gov't law enforcement agencies want, America will be by definition a surveillance police state. Where companies like Apple are legally forced to work for them. Rather than protect the privacy of their customers. This "overreach" by the FBI and their political cronies in Washington is going to permanently alter this country - beyond recognizability as we lose more and more of our rights - if leaders like Tim Cook don't stand up to them.
Where to go if this country finally falls to joint Democratic and Republican fascism?
Damn you do, Damn you don't. This is Apple's situation. Think hard. Let's look at from different angle.With infinite resources, FBI failed to find these two terrorists and stop them before attacking and killing many innocent American. Now, FBI wants face-saving to use Apple as scape-goat to lay down trap not only for this iphone but for all future iphones backdoor. Smart move on FBI side.
Why Google,Facebook,Twtter,etc siding with Apple ? Because they are next once Apple falls.
Ist was just the one phone, if the DOJ was trustworthy and not subject to espionage from other US governmental institutions like the NSA, this would be easy. But since it would immediately open all phones for everyone everywhere in all countries, this has to be resisted.
"The FBI wants us to make a new version of the iPhone operating system, circumventing several important security features, and install it on an iPhone recovered during the investigation," Cook wrote. "In the wrong hands, this software -- which does not exist today -- would have the potential to unlock any iPhone in someone's physical possession."
On NPR yesterday there was an interesting comment from Nico Sell who is the CEO of Wickr an encrypted messaging app.
"SELL: ...What the FBI is asking Apple to do is to create an amazingly strong weapon that would actually - could be used to devastate the United States and the world.Beyond national security, it's also the legal precedent they sent, what we do to innovation to drive it away from the country and all the economy."
What works? Place a call to your state representatives TODAY. It's OK if you've never done it before. Call. Be polite, you'll be talking to a secretary or other person who works for your representative. Be firm about voicing your displeasure over what is happening with the FBI and remind the person on the other end of the line that their boss (your representative) is there to represent YOUR concerns.
The alternative? This is the Apple Campus in the near future:
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Which brings me to the next thing ... if the government is filing against Apple, and corporations are people in the eyes of the law, what happens if "Apple" doesn't comply? Does the company go to jail? Or do its officers go to jail? Or all of its employees? Or do they just take the company away from everyone and not let anyone in to go to work?
The FBI couldn't protect the country against 911 despite the fact that the attackers were "under survellance". The result after that historic failure are new laws that for the first time in American history circumvent 'habeus corpus'. And we now all live in a country where all citizens' have their personal information and communications surveilled 24/7. With cameras watching us on every street corner. Where we have to take our shoes and belts off and be subject to bodily search just to fly home for the holidays. And yet where they cannot protect us from identity theft, phone fraud or having our personal data stolen from hackers in other countries.
If we give everything gov't law enforcement agencies want, America will be by definition a surveillance police state. Where companies like Apple are legally forced to work for them. Rather than protect the privacy of their customers. This "overreach" by the FBI and their political cronies in Washington is going to permanently alter this country - beyond recognizability as we lose more and more of our rights - if leaders like Tim Cook don't stand up to them.
The DOJ went on to say that Apple's refusal to cooperate is "based on its concern for its business model and public brand marketing strategy."
This has FK all to do with their business model or brand strategy - it is Apple's intense belief that individuals should have the absolute right to protect their personal data. Period. Unfortunately, the DOJ is playing to the continued dumbing down of America that as a whole has little insight into the underlying issues of why it is so important for us to be able to secure our personal data.
and the Senate confirms.
F**k you DOJ. The nerve of these a$$hats. They think the constitution is more guidelines than a rules. Try taking guns away from law-abiding citizens too while you're at it and see how well that goes too.
Unbelievable that they think this is okay. No matter how they try to sugarcoat it.
"SELL: ...What the FBI is asking Apple to do is to create an amazingly strong weapon that would actually - could be used to devastate the United States and the world. Beyond national security, it's also the legal precedent they sent, what we do to innovation to drive it away from the country and all the economy."
http://www.npr.org/2016/02/18/467253429/encrypted-messaging-app-ceo-tim-cook-is-a-national-security-hero
http://lifehacker.com/5871810/how-to-contact-and-properly-communicate-with-your-government-representatives
https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
This is everyone's fight, not just Apple's.
What works? Place a call to your state representatives TODAY. It's OK if you've never done it before. Call. Be polite, you'll be talking to a secretary or other person who works for your representative. Be firm about voicing your displeasure over what is happening with the FBI and remind the person on the other end of the line that their boss (your representative) is there to represent YOUR concerns.
The alternative? This is the Apple Campus in the near future:
Tim Cook should announce he's running for president today. Imagine all the press!!