Comey: 'Of course' FBI would leverage precedent in San Bernardino case

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Under questioning from members of the House Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, FBI Director James Comey admitted that his agency would "of course" seek to use the precedent gained from a win in the San Bernardino to unlock other phones.

Image Credit: Jim Lo Scalzo/EPA
Image Credit: Jim Lo Scalzo/EPA


"If the All Writs Act is available to us, and relief under the All Writs Act fits the powers of the statute, of course" the bureau would seek to apply the same tactic in other cases, Comey said in response to a question from Rep. John Conyers. Comey repeatedly acknowledged the potential of the San Bernardino matter to set a legal precedent.

Much of the committee's time was spent questioning Comey on the precedential nature of the bureau's request, but members were also keen to determine whether the FBI had done everything in its own power before turning to the courts.

Reps. Darrell Issa and Zoe Lofgren -- members of the California congressional delegation -- were especially tough on Comey. Issa, who made a fortune in automotive security, pressed the FBI chief on detailed technical matters that Comey was continually unable to answer.

"How can you come before this committee..if you can't answer the questions?" Issa asked pointedly.

Apple general counsel Bruce Sewell is slated to testify before the committee later today.
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  • Reply 1 of 56
    radster360radster360 Posts: 547member
    Mr. Comey is a fox in sheep's skin. He is showing his true color. It was never just "This one phone"!
    latifbpsergiozicoco3AMCjbdragonmagman1979baconstangcornchipirelandbrian green
  • Reply 2 of 56
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,311member
    Hooray for Issa! It's about time someone with technical experience challenged the FBI. This should be enough to throw his request out of court and for the congressional committee to tell the FBI to take a hike. 
    latifbpsergiozicoco3mwhitenolamacguyjbdragonmagman1979baconstangcornchipireland
  • Reply 3 of 56
    fastasleepfastasleep Posts: 6,453member
    There it is. 
    icoco3nolamacguycornchipanantksundarambrian greenlostkiwitdknoxIanMC2
  • Reply 4 of 56
    volcanvolcan Posts: 1,799member
    "If the All Writs Act is available to us, and relief under the All Writs Act fits the powers of the statute, of course" the bureau would seek to apply the same tactic in other cases, Comey said in response to a question from Rep. John Conyers. Comey repeatedly acknowledged the potential of the San Bernardino matter to set a legal precedent.
    This "of course" is what Apple was referring to when they said it was not about just one phone. Apple doesn't want to be in the criminal forensics business, which is one reason, besides consumer privacy, that they made it virtually impossible to break into. Up until iOS 8 they could easily break in and with each revision they have made it increasingly more difficult. The rumor is that next they will attempt to make it technically impossible to break in with the next iOS, even for Apple.

    One thing is for sure, Apple should never give the FBI a copy of the hacked software. The FBI would get their pocket picked in 5 minutes. Then millions of users would be at risk.


    edited March 2016 magman1979baconstanganantksundarambrian greenlostkiwitdknoxIanMC2justadcomics
  • Reply 5 of 56
    jensonbjensonb Posts: 533member
    Issa, who made a fortune in automotive security, pressed the FBI chief on detailed technical matters that Comey was continually unable to answer.

    "How can you come before this committee..if you can't answer the questions?" Issa asked pointedly.
    That is brutal. Issa showing no mercy.

    jfc1138jbdragonradster360brian greenlostkiwitdknoxIanMC2justadcomics
  • Reply 6 of 56
    icoco3icoco3 Posts: 1,474member
    ...
    Image Credit Jim Lo ScalzoEPA
    "Just This One Phone"
    "It Might Set Precedent"
    "Yes it Will and We Will Use It"
    ....
    Take your pick sir....which one is it????

    edited March 2016 nolamacguyjbdragonUrei1620magman1979radster360baconstangbanchocornchipirelandanantksundaram
  • Reply 7 of 56
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    So what happened to "just this one phone"?

    Such bull, guy should resign.
    icoco3nolamacguyjbdragonbanchocornchipanantksundarambrian greenlostkiwitdknoxIanMC2
  • Reply 8 of 56
    stskstsk Posts: 22member
    Old lawyer joke, which is certainly applicable to this lying sack of shit:
    Q: "How can you tell if James Comey is lying?"
    A: "His lips are moving."
    mwhitejbdragonteejay2012fotoformatmagman1979brian greenoneof52tdknoxIanMC2
  • Reply 9 of 56
    Rayz2016Rayz2016 Posts: 6,957member
    If a man would lie about something this important then Americans (no, the world) should be concerned with what else he would lie about, and what he may encourage the agents under him to lie about as well.

    jbdragonboopthesnootmagman1979rob53baconstangbrian greenpropodlostkiwitdknoxmetrix
  • Reply 10 of 56
    AMCAMC Posts: 5member
    radster360 said:
    Mr. Comey is a fox in sheep's skin. He is showing his true color. It was never just "This one phone"!
    exactly, it was never going to be one and done. it was all about getting into anybodies phone at any time they wanted.  
    jbdragonmagman1979brian greenlostkiwitdknox
  • Reply 11 of 56
    Urei1620Urei1620 Posts: 88member
    Comey likes to speak from both sides of his mouth and out of ignorance, so everything he has to say is laughable nonsense. This is one mad man fixated on encryption and the companies that make the technology possible. Even Mike Rogers and Hayden recognize that unbreakable encryption is beneficial for America and for the sake of America's technological health, we should encourage tech companies to push ahead, though this makes the NSA's job harder. On the other hand Comey wants it decrypted and handed down to him on a silver platter. So you do not see much support for Jim Comey when it comes to encryption. Even during debates, everyone is against backdoors except Comey. He is a lone wolf and loose cannon. He should resign and let someone else more competent head the Fumble, Blunder, and Ignorance agency.
    edited March 2016 palominebrian greenlostkiwitdknox
  • Reply 12 of 56
    jbdragonjbdragon Posts: 2,312member
    AMC said:
    radster360 said:
    Mr. Comey is a fox in sheep's skin. He is showing his true color. It was never just "This one phone"!
    exactly, it was never going to be one and done. it was all about getting into anybodies phone at any time they wanted.  
    Anyone with half a brain could see that coming a mile away!
    jfc1138cornchipbrian greenlostkiwitdknox
  • Reply 13 of 56
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Anyone else watching the C-SPAN livestream of this charade?

    It's times like this when I wish there was a live chat feature on this site.
    edited March 2016 timmydaxmagman1979banchocornchipbrian greenlostkiwitdknox
  • Reply 14 of 56
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,927member
    Comey, you're a F'n weasel. "It's just one phone" my arse. 
    timmydaxjfc1138magman1979brian greentdknox
  • Reply 15 of 56
    Urei1620Urei1620 Posts: 88member
    Anyone else watching the C-SPAN livestream of this charade?
    I have to work , but I would get a laugh every time Comey opens his mouth. Everything he has to say is so absurd. I'll try to watch it on YT.
    edited March 2016
  • Reply 16 of 56
    timmydaxtimmydax Posts: 284member
    http://youtu.be/1ThJHxBtZmY

    Darrell Issa does a good job making him look stupid, that's for sure.
    brian greenbrakkenlostkiwitdknoxmatrix077
  • Reply 17 of 56
    Urei1620Urei1620 Posts: 88member
    jungmark said:
    Comey, you're a F'n weasel. "It's just one phone" my arse. 
    ah, we knew this was not about 1 iPhone or terrorism or national security or justice or about the victims or the victim's families. It was about all iPhones and jabbing Apple.
    edited March 2016 jfc1138baconstangbrian greentdknox
  • Reply 18 of 56
    potatoleeksouppotatoleeksoup Posts: 211member
    Reps Nadler and Issa ripped up Comey. Chaffetz did a decent job too. It was a treat!
  • Reply 19 of 56
    mike1mike1 Posts: 3,442member
    jfc1138 said:
    So what happened to "just this one phone"?

    Such bull, guy should resign.
    That was shown over a week ago when it was revealed that there were at least another 9 phones waiting in the wings.
    jfc1138tdknox
  • Reply 20 of 56
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    mike1 said:
    jfc1138 said:
    So what happened to "just this one phone"?

    Such bull, guy should resign.
    That was shown over a week ago when it was revealed that there were at least another 9 phones waiting in the wings.
    Plus about 170 in NYC hands.... which may have been cooked by the Brooklyn ruling.
    edited March 2016
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