You really want to have THAT argument, don’t you? It’s like you’re just screaming for it. Everyone laughs when you say this. Of course you have.
I don't really want to have any argument with you at all. It'll be tedious and a waste of time. If you'd stop post absurdly wrong-headed things and/or interjecting yourself into my conversations with other people I'd be a lot happier.
Do do whatever you want, and fee free to quote where I've posted any of my ideology.
The few people who are best placed to predict the UK's future economic prospects are economists. And the vast majority of them were/are saying if Britain exits the EU it will be economically harmful.
Yes, that's known as lying. We've seen it before, both on the continent and off. Funny how people forget history.
You talk of lying, and yet you seem to conveniently ignore the lying that took place by the pro-leave camp before the referendum, and which has subsequently been revealed as such. It is obvious that this has heavily affected the result and swung the pendulum to leave votes. That is the main reason this referendum is undemocratic. It is built upon deceit.
Sigh. Well done on cherry-picking one word out of my sentence on the British gutter press and discarding the rest.
Your entire sentence was predicated on that word and the thought that it would terrify your opponents into silence. Too bad you've been repeating the same bullshit for half a century now, so it just has no effect at all. No one is frightened of being right anymore. Maybe you should be frightened that your scare tactics no longer work.
What in god's name are you going on about? You seem to have a hard time grasping simple facts. I have no scare tactics. I raised the point about the xenophobic UK press because they are the ones who have whipped up anti-EU anti-immigrant sentiment. Through fear, they have brainwashed millions to vote to leave the EU. An unfounded fear of being over-run by immigrants causing our resources to crack under the strain. This scaremongering has been going on for decades by the likes the Daily Mail and the Sun but it became far more fervent as we approached the referendum. They are trashy newspapers whose sole purpose seems to be to spread fear, distrust and hatred built upon a bed of lies and half-truths. The scare tactics are not mine; they are emanating from the certain sections of the UK press controlled by a very small number of billionaires who are playing a game of political chess. The public are the pawns. Here in the UK, our press has enormous persuasive powers that can and have swung elections. Swinging a referendum is mere child's play for these corrupt publications.
That is why I raised it. I really don't get how you have misconstrued my argument so wildly.
Of course, the likes of Farage have also been piling on the scaremongering but their political aims would be very much weaker if it wasn't for the heavily partisan newspapers.
This is an interesting article published yesterday in the Independent:
"Brexit: Leave campaign was ‘criminally irresponsible’, says leading legal academic"
Michael Dougan, professor of European law at at the University of Liverpool said:
"Leave conducted one of the most dishonest campaigns this country has ever seen.
"On virtually every major issue that was raised in this referendum debate Leave’s arguments consisted of at best misrepresentations and at worst outright deception.
"And by doing so – by normalising and legitimising this type of dishonesty as a primary tool to win votes, I’m afraid that Leave have inflicted quite untold damage on the quality of our national democracy.”
You talk of lying, and yet you seem to conveniently ignore
No, I just don’t care about it because I’ve not been discussing it thus far. Are you claiming that both sides of every single debate issue ever put forth have not lied? Irrelevant.
It is obvious that this has heavily affected the result and swung the pendulum to leave votes. That is the main reason this referendum is undemocratic. It is built upon deceit.
No, Obama swung the vote. The European Union is built upon deceit and is undemocratic. For anyone who cares about ‘democracy’, leaving is the only possible option.
Through fear, they have brainwashed millions to vote to leave the EU.
But no one has been brainwashed to stay, of course.
An unfounded fear of being over-run by immigrants
lol, Rotherham.
The scare tactics are not mine; they are emanating from the certain sections of the UK press controlled by a very small number of billionaires who are playing a game of political chess.
No shit. Guess whose side they’re on.
My sigh was not exasperation, but weariness at your level of incomprehension and ignorance.
And yet you’ve shown neither, pretending that the mere invocation of the words is enough to prove your claim.
Can you hear that sound? It sounds like the pit of a large barrel being scraped for a decent insult to hurl.
Yes, I hear it. Please stop making it. It’s rather grating.
And that advances your argument...how?
Moreso than yours, at least, as it shows my argument is founded on objectivity rather than emotion.
...aaaaaaaaaaaaand Farage leaves the sinking ship, as well.
Wow. The leading propagandists won't take responsibility for their campaign, refusing to get left holding the bag as voters realise they've been utterly had.
You talk of lying, and yet you seem to conveniently ignore
No, I just don’t care about it because I’ve not been discussing it thus far. Are you claiming that both sides of every single debate issue ever put forth have not lied? Irrelevant. No, Obama swung the vote. The European Union is built upon deceit and is undemocratic. For anyone who cares about ‘democracy’, leaving is the only possible option.But no one has been brainwashed to stay, of course. lol, Rotherham. No shit. Guess whose side they’re on. And yet you’ve shown neither, pretending that the mere invocation of the words is enough to prove your claim. Yes, I hear it. Please stop making it. It’s rather grating.Moreso than yours, at least, as it shows my argument is founded on objectivity rather than emotion.
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I do, since you post them.
I don't post ideology. Never have. Try again.
Everyone laughs when you say this. Of course you have.
Do do whatever you want, and fee free to quote where I've posted any of my ideology.
You know nothing.
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Shame, I was rooting for you.
What in god's name are you going on about? You seem to have a hard time grasping simple facts. I have no scare tactics. I raised the point about the xenophobic UK press because they are the ones who have whipped up anti-EU anti-immigrant sentiment. Through fear, they have brainwashed millions to vote to leave the EU. An unfounded fear of being over-run by immigrants causing our resources to crack under the strain. This scaremongering has been going on for decades by the likes the Daily Mail and the Sun but it became far more fervent as we approached the referendum. They are trashy newspapers whose sole purpose seems to be to spread fear, distrust and hatred built upon a bed of lies and half-truths. The scare tactics are not mine; they are emanating from the certain sections of the UK press controlled by a very small number of billionaires who are playing a game of political chess. The public are the pawns. Here in the UK, our press has enormous persuasive powers that can and have swung elections. Swinging a referendum is mere child's play for these corrupt publications.
That is why I raised it. I really don't get how you have misconstrued my argument so wildly.
Of course, the likes of Farage have also been piling on the scaremongering but their political aims would be very much weaker if it wasn't for the heavily partisan newspapers.
My sigh was not exasperation, but weariness at your level of incomprehension and ignorance.
Can you hear that sound? It sounds like the pit of a large barrel being scraped for a decent insult to hurl.
And that advances your argument...how?
"Brexit: Leave campaign was ‘criminally irresponsible’, says leading legal academic"
Michael Dougan, professor of European law at at the University of Liverpool said:
"Leave conducted one of the most dishonest campaigns this country has ever seen.
"On virtually every major issue that was raised in this referendum debate Leave’s arguments consisted of at best misrepresentations and at worst outright deception.
"And by doing so – by normalising and legitimising this type of dishonesty as a primary tool to win votes, I’m afraid that Leave have inflicted quite untold damage on the quality of our national democracy.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-eu-referendum-michael-dougan-leave-campaign-latest-a7115316.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-anger-bregret-leave-voters-protest-vote-thought-uk-stay-in-eu-remain-win-a7102516.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-news-second-eu-referendum-leave-voters-regret-bregret-choice-in-millions-a7113336.html
1.2 million people regret voting to leave. I wouldn't be surprised if that figure rises as the cost of living rises.
No, Obama swung the vote. The European Union is built upon deceit and is undemocratic. For anyone who cares about ‘democracy’, leaving is the only possible option.But no one has been brainwashed to stay, of course.
lol, Rotherham.
No shit. Guess whose side they’re on.
And yet you’ve shown neither, pretending that the mere invocation of the words is enough to prove your claim.
Yes, I hear it. Please stop making it. It’s rather grating.Moreso than yours, at least, as it shows my argument is founded on objectivity rather than emotion.
Wow. The leading propagandists won't take responsibility for their campaign, refusing to get left holding the bag as voters realise they've been utterly had.
Awesome.
It's ok to say you don't know or are unsure!