How the UK's Brexit vote to leave Europe affects Apple

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  • Reply 221 of 314
    why-why- Posts: 305member
    crowley said:
    why- said:
    I'm confused?? that wasn't part of an argument it was just a stated fact???
    Don't worry it's just one of his stock replies.  They rarely have any thought behind them or relevance to the quoted message.

    oh I'm not worried. I'm quite used to them by now. the trick is to not take them too seriously
    dsd
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  • Reply 222 of 314
    xbitxbit Posts: 408member
    I'm so embarrassed to be British right now.

    A fresh wave of anti-intellectualism has eroded our country.
    edited June 2016
    baconstang
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  • Reply 223 of 314
    kpomkpom Posts: 660member
    crowley said:
    kpom said:
    No, the Scottish Parliament can't veto a Brexit. They can symbolically withhold consent, but foreign policy is a matter reserved for Westminster.
    Sure, but Westminster doesn't want Brexit either.  They aren't that many Tory backbenchers.  The Scottish withholding consent may be used as a spanner in the works, even if only for delay.
    Leaving is the only viable option for the UK. If they come back with "we didn't really mean it," then they lose all credibility with the other 27 members and won't be taken seriously in negotiations on any other subject. The Commission doesn't seem to be willing to make any concessions to convince the UK to stay, even though Britain is a net importer to the rest of the EU. So effectively Britain is like Norway and Switzerland for the moment in that they have no real influence over policy, except that they are still in the EU. So they might as well go ahead with leaving, even if it means taking the Norwegian/Swiss deal at first.
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  • Reply 224 of 314
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    flaneur said:

    When you say there are enough Muslim countries, what you mean is that there are enough Semitic countries. 
    Nope, when I say there are enough Islamic countries, I mean that there are enough Islamic countries.

    I don't care about people's ethnic backgrounds. A blue eyed, blonde haired Jihadist from Sweden is just as filthy as one from Saudi Arabia for example. The Swede would actually be a bit worse, since they would be a traitor in addition to being a terrorist.

    It is their religion that I do not like. Islam is bad for the entire civilized world. :)
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  • Reply 225 of 314
    baconstangbaconstang Posts: 1,197member
    xbit said:
    I'm so embarrassed to be British right now.

    A fresh wave of anti-intellectualism has eroded our country.
    Welcome to the 'party'.   It's been ramping up here for 20 years.
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  • Reply 226 of 314
    baconstangbaconstang Posts: 1,197member

    apple ][ said:
    flaneur said:

    When you say there are enough Muslim countries, what you mean is that there are enough Semitic countries. 
    Nope, when I say there are enough Islamic countries, I mean that there are enough Islamic countries.

    I don't care about people's ethnic backgrounds. A blue eyed, blonde haired Jihadist from Sweden is just as filthy as one from Saudi Arabia for example. The Swede would actually be a bit worse, since they would be a traitor in addition to being a terrorist.

    It is their religion that I do not like. Islam is bad for the entire civilized world. :)
    RELIGION is bad for the entire civilized world.  FTFY
    macplusplusdsd
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  • Reply 227 of 314
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    xbit said:
    I'm so embarrassed to be British right now.

    A fresh wave of anti-intellectualism has eroded our country.
    The charade of the arrogant, anti-intellectual, anti-democratic and fascist left, in which they claim to be smarter and more superior than everybody else isn't exactly working out too well for them anymore. B)

    They're about as smart as a pile of rocks.

    These extremist, anti-democratic people will just have to recognize that the jig is up.

    In the future, I would suggest sending some of the most extreme ones to re-education camps. :#


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  • Reply 228 of 314
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

    apple ][ said:
    Nope, when I say there are enough Islamic countries, I mean that there are enough Islamic countries.

    I don't care about people's ethnic backgrounds. A blue eyed, blonde haired Jihadist from Sweden is just as filthy as one from Saudi Arabia for example. The Swede would actually be a bit worse, since they would be a traitor in addition to being a terrorist.

    It is their religion that I do not like. Islam is bad for the entire civilized world. :)
    RELIGION is bad for the entire civilized world.  FTFY
    Nope, only one is far, far worse than all of the others combined.

    I don't give a crap about any of the others at all. None are a danger to me or to civilization. :#




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  • Reply 229 of 314
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    why- said:
    oh I'm not worried. I'm quite used to them by now. the trick is to not take them too seriously
    “HURR DURR OTHERS DID IT SO IT’S FINE” is not an argument. I realize it was asking too much of you to be able to comprehend the logic behind that, since you were the one who actually used it as one. That is entirely my fault, and I apologize.

    You don’t have a fucking leg to stand on, is what I’m saying. That goes for all the claims made against nationalism and national sovereignty.
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  • Reply 230 of 314
    why-why- Posts: 305member
    why- said:
    oh I'm not worried. I'm quite used to them by now. the trick is to not take them too seriously
    “HURR DURR OTHERS DID IT SO IT’S FINE” is not an argument. I realize it was asking too much of you to be able to comprehend the logic behind that, since you were the one who actually used it as one. That is entirely my fault, and I apologize.

    You don’t have a fucking leg to stand on, is what I’m saying. That goes for all the claims made against nationalism and national sovereignty.
    you should really try to calm down if you want anyone to take you seriously. blowing your top like this doesn't help your case
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  • Reply 231 of 314
    evilutionevilution Posts: 1,399member

    The British Pound plummeted against the U.S. dollar, collapsing from $1.50 to close at $1.37, a massive move for a major currency and resulting in the Pound's lowest point in more than 30 years.
    And on day 2 it recovered back to a point higher than it was earlier in the year.
    The FTSE plummeted and then recovered to a high.

    Because we have our own currency, the widest spoken language in the world and the British way of dealing with things, it can work and it will work.
    What will slow it down is all the butt-hurt stay campaigners whinging about losing, purposely digging their heels in to try and make it not work so they can say "I told you so".
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  • Reply 232 of 314
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    why- said:
    you should really try to calm down
    Nah, fuck you. Have a goddamn argument. I refuse to tolerate bullshit any longer. I’m not going to put up with it. Tolerance leads to genocide; ideological, political, or physical.
     if you want anyone to take you seriously.
    I don’t give a shit if I’m not taken seriously by someone who has no comprehension of logic or reason. That’s a compliment.
    To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.
    – Thomas Paine

    Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred.
    – Jacques Barzun

    Moral cowardice that keeps us from speaking our minds is as dangerous to this country as irresponsible talk. The right ways is not always the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
    – Margaret Chase Smith
    I wasn’t upset before, but I am now. Substantiate your claims or don’t hold them at all.

    You too. You know who you are, reading this.
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  • Reply 233 of 314
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    crowley said:
    apple ][ said:
    That's just the grumblings of immature sorelosers. They lost and they lost legitimately.

    It doesn't matter how many signatures their "do over" petition gets. The vote is over and the issue has been decided. It's game over.

    The left and the multiculturalist traitors will continue to whine about it no doubt, but it wont matter, they lost, and their game is up. 
    Actually pal, you don't get to decide that.  The referendum was non-binding, and parliament is supreme, and can override or re-run the referendum if they so choose.  Even if they don't, the Scottish may be able to veto the triggering of Article 50.

    I think all of these would be bad ideas, but they are certainly possible.  The game may not be over.
    Cameron already announced he's stepping down, and many members of the so-called "shadow" government have announced their departures as well. Nothing is going back now, dude.
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  • Reply 234 of 314
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    xbit said:
    I'm so embarrassed to be British right now.

    A fresh wave of anti-intellectualism has eroded our country.
    It's not anti-intellectual to want to have more control over your own destiny.

    The entire EU will erode and the better off members will continue to exit, leaving a hollow husk incapable of funding itself.
    tallest skilkpommacplusplus
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  • Reply 235 of 314
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    It's not anti-intellectual to want to have more control over your own destiny.
    If intellectual is taken to mean its modern definition, then yes, it’s anti-intellectual, and it should be PROUD to be. Here’s Thomas Sowell on the subject:

    It is hard to imagine a more stupid or dangerous way of making decisions than by putting those decisions in the hand of people who pay no price for being wrong. Know-it-alls in the school system do not lose one dime or one hour's sleep if their bright ideas turn out to be all wrong, or even disastrous, for the child.


    The intelligentsia pay no price for being wrong. I think that's the secret of their influence. If you come up with a lot of wrong ideas and pay a price for it, you're forced to think about it and to change your ways or else get eliminated. But there's no such test. The only test for most intellectuals is whether other intellectuals go along with it, and if they all have a wrong idea it becomes invincible.


    It may be expecting too much to expect most intellectuals to have common sense, when their whole life is based on their being uncommon. That is, saying things that are different from what everyone else is saying. There is only so much genuine originality in anyone. After that, being uncommon means indulging in pointless eccentricities or clever attempts to mock or shock.


    Intellectuals may like to think of themselves as people who "speak truth to power" but too often they are people who speak lies to gain power.


    Nothing could be more jolting and discordant with the vision of today's intellectuals than the fact that it was businessmen, devout religious leaders and Western imperialists who together destroyed slavery around the world. And if it doesn't fit their vision, it is the same to them as if it never happened.


    The fatal misstep of intellectuals is assuming that superior ability within a particular realm can be generalized to superior wisdom or morality overall. Chess grandmasters, musical prodigies, and others who are remarkable within their respected specialties–as intellectuals within theirs–seldom make that mistake.

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  • Reply 236 of 314
    mattinozmattinoz Posts: 2,688member
    evilution said:

    The British Pound plummeted against the U.S. dollar, collapsing from $1.50 to close at $1.37, a massive move for a major currency and resulting in the Pound's lowest point in more than 30 years.
    And on day 2 it recovered back to a point higher than it was earlier in the year.
    The FTSE plummeted and then recovered to a high.

    Because we have our own currency, the widest spoken language in the world and the British way of dealing with things, it can work and it will work.
    What will slow it down is all the butt-hurt stay campaigners whinging about losing, purposely digging their heels in to try and make it not work so they can say "I told you so".
    In the end a lot of wealth comes from being the middle-man* to a very large empire and acting as a "trade port" between that empire and Europe. With Brexit can we in the colonies really rely on Mother England to for-fill the roll or must we push for less common wealth and more/true Independence.

    How long before the British way is no more and all that remains is "This England"?

    *After all the Internet has this habit of destrying middle-men unless they can evolve a more significant value add. 
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  • Reply 237 of 314
    why-why- Posts: 305member
    why- said:
    you should really try to calm down
    Nah, fuck you. Have a goddamn argument. I refuse to tolerate bullshit any longer. I’m not going to put up with it. Tolerance leads to genocide; ideological, political, or physical.
    I don’t give a shit if I’m not taken seriously by someone who has no comprehension of logic or reason. That’s a compliment.
    I wasn’t upset before, but I am now. Substantiate your claims or don’t hold them at all.

    You too. You know who you are, reading this.

    well that's just preposterous. I don't think you understand the nature of belief. I can hold whatever views I want and I'm under no obligation whatsoever to back them up

    here's another: I believe brexit is bad for england and europe. source? my own personal opinion. you can bring a million the quotes from people I've never heard of if you wish. perhaps I'll write them down in a book
    edited June 2016
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  • Reply 238 of 314
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    why- said:
    I can hold whatever views I want and I’m under no obligation whatsoever to back them up. here's another: I believe brexit is bad for england and europe. source? my own personal opinion.
    And that’s fine. Just don’t pretend they’re true if they’re not.
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  • Reply 239 of 314
    why-why- Posts: 305member
    why- said:
    I can hold whatever views I want and I’m under no obligation whatsoever to back them up. here's another: I believe brexit is bad for england and europe. source? my own personal opinion.
    And that’s fine. Just don’t pretend they’re true if they’re not.
    who's to say. I suppose we'll have to wait and see  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  • Reply 240 of 314
    foggyhillfoggyhill Posts: 4,767member
    evilution said:

    The British Pound plummeted against the U.S. dollar, collapsing from $1.50 to close at $1.37, a massive move for a major currency and resulting in the Pound's lowest point in more than 30 years.
    And on day 2 it recovered back to a point higher than it was earlier in the year.
    The FTSE plummeted and then recovered to a high.

    Because we have our own currency, the widest spoken language in the world and the British way of dealing with things, it can work and it will work.
    What will slow it down is all the butt-hurt stay campaigners whinging about losing, purposely digging their heels in to try and make it not work so they can say "I told you so".
    Long term, you'll be screwed and poorer but you'll have no definite way of knowing and will thus be all proud of your poverty (sic).
    That's especially the case for anyone outside London.

    The "butt hurt" are the fracking people who are going to rip the UK to shred, and yes, take back their own country : AKA Scotland.

    They're also the under 35 crowd who will have to live with this xenophobic fueled crap for a very long time. You don't get to mouth off
    unless you have time travel machine and you're not one of old fearful turds who voted for this.
    edited June 2016
    mobius
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