Alleged source within Foxconn takes to Reddit to blab about Apple smart glasses, 'iPhone 8...

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in Future Apple Hardware edited June 2017
An extensive thread from "Foxconninsider" on Reddit has answered user questions about forthcoming Apple products, including limited information on a 2018 MacBook Pro refresh, the death of the MacBook Air, an "Apple Smart Glasses" project, the "Siri Speaker" and the "iPhone 8" -- but a previous rumor that was refuted has been reiterated and casts significant doubt on the user and the data provided.




The post on Reddit started on Friday evening, and has continued into Saturday.

iPhone 8

The "iPhone 8" is claimed to be water resistant, have wireless charging, and use Lightning and not USB-C. Additionally, the test unit that the user allegedly has details about did have Touch ID bonded to a glass substrate on the front of the device.

While the source believes that there was a rear-mounted Touch ID model issued as an engineering test, a version in which Touch ID tech is embedded under the glass is "more likely given our intelligence."
Given the October back-and-forth about the Sonder keyboard being an Apple prototype with the same source, AppleInsider suggests examining the reports by the user with a great deal of skepticism.

Augmented reality smart glasses

Apple's Smart Glasses, purportedly called "Project Mirrorshades," allegedly incorporates Kopin technology, with an acetate frame mounting polarized or prescription lens with Zeiss smart optics. Audio is allegedly provided by bone conduction and noise cancellation modules.

Sensors inctegrated into the device reportedly include a light sensor, an accelerometer for step tracking and head movement, and a magnetometer for navigation.

The bill of materials is allegedly to be about $150, with an expected sale price of 4 times the cost of construction.

According to the source, the Apple smart glasses project is said to be "very likely to be cancelled" with a 65 percent probability given to be axed.

MacBook, MacBook Air, and MacBook Pro

The "foxconninsider" source for this current batch of reports from the supply chain is the same one that spread tips about a Sonder-derived e-ink keyboard that has yet to surface. The source claims that the technology has just not yet been implemented yet, and will come with the 2018 MacBook Pro.

When asked if 32 GB of RAM is coming to the MacBook Pro, the source claims that it will, in the 15-inch model. However, when asked if it was coming in "the coming weeks or later this year," no answer was given. No information at all has been provided in the thread about a 2017 MacBook Pro refresh with Kaby Lake, which is expected soon.

To implement 32 GB of RAM in the MacBook Pro's current design, a new motherboard design would be required, which seems unlikely given the relatively short period of time since the launch of the product well less than a year ago.




Apple will also allegedly return the glowing Apple logo on the back of the case to the 2018 model.

In October, the Sonder CEO informed AppleInsider that there was no meeting with Apple CEO Tim Cook. The "leaks" at the time from the same source claiming that it was an Apple product appeared to be based on a pre-production keyboard by the source company, and not of an Apple product.

The source claims to have little knowledge about the MacBook's update timetable or other technology inclusions, other than a new processor. However, the report claims that the MacBook Air has reached the end of its life -- a point refuted by other very recent rumors about the device from other sources.

Apple "Siri Speaker"

While little information has yet to be provided about the device, the user claims that the product has been delayed into "late 2017." Notably, the post reports that Foxconn lost the contract to another product manufacturer "before [the] Chinese New Year."

Multiple prototypes combinations were allegedly tested, with units with and without display, and units with and without a camera.

It is unclear where the data about a production delay is coming from, given that the product has yet to even be announced, and Foxconn allegedly lost the contract -- by the source's own admission.

KGI's source of data?

The post could shed some light on KGI Securities' source of report material. In a response to a question, the user claims that the assortment of sources using the identity sell data from the factory to KGI, who in turn uses it for analysis.

The rest of the Apple product line

Other products briefly discussed include information on an Apple TV update will come in October. The user claims to have no information on Project Titan, the MacBook, the Mac Pro, or the Apple Watch.

Serious legitimacy issues with "Foxconninsider"

The "Foxconninsider" user has been verified by Reddit moderation as a Foxconn employee. Given the October back-and-forth about the Sonder keyboard being an Apple prototype with the same source, AppleInsider suggests examining the reports by the user with a great deal of skepticism, and a critical eye.

The previous posts and claims about the Sonder technology by the user are available in the user's Reddit history.

The user also claims that they are not the ultimate source for all things Apple, and have no access to Apple's software plans or other vendors.
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  • Reply 1 of 38
    NotsofastNotsofast Posts: 322member
    This is largely just regurgitated mass of rumors that has so many caveats that there is little that they really know.  Also, what sense does it make that  Foxconn employee would be privy to all of this?  Foxconn is pretty much just a final assembler, not a builder of prototypes, research and development, etc.
    cornchip
  • Reply 2 of 38
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 30,748member
    Maybe it's Mike Daisey.
    wlympatchythepiratecornchiplevipscooter63
  • Reply 3 of 38
    People give way to much import to rumors about "new" products.
  • Reply 4 of 38
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 20,055member
    Notsofast said:
    This is largely just regurgitated mass of rumors that has so many caveats that there is little that they really know.  Also, what sense does it make that  Foxconn employee would be privy to all of this?  Foxconn is pretty much just a final assembler, not a builder of prototypes, research and development, etc.
    Foxconn does do research and development, very likely including prototypes,  in addition to assembly. 
  • Reply 5 of 38
    rogifan_newrogifan_new Posts: 3,777member
    So now we're supposed to believe some guy on reddit?
    cornchip
  • Reply 6 of 38
    bb-15bb-15 Posts: 247member
    Fake. Someone on reddit says they work for Foxconn and this has to be true? No, it doesn't.
    This is just a person looking for attention. 
  • Reply 7 of 38
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 20,055member
    bb-15 said:
    Fake. Someone on reddit says they work for Foxconn and this has to be true? No, it doesn't.
    This is just a person looking for attention. 
    They've been verified as a FoxConn employee according to the stories. 
  • Reply 8 of 38
    Why bring back the glowing logo? The solid logo on Macbooks/iPhones looks better, uses no power, is cheaper to manufacture and is one less part to break.
  • Reply 9 of 38
    anantksundaramanantksundaram Posts: 18,975member
    Why bring back the glowing logo? The solid logo on Macbooks/iPhones looks better, uses no power, is cheaper to manufacture and is one less part to break.
    When did you last break a glowing logo? Doing what?
  • Reply 10 of 38
    joekewejoekewe Posts: 24member
    Why bring back the glowing logo? The solid logo on Macbooks/iPhones looks better, uses no power, is cheaper to manufacture and is one less part to break.
    MacBook glowing logos never used extra power. Just a hole in the metal case where the LCD backlight shined through. I miss them.
    cornchipHyperealitypscooter63StrangeDays
  • Reply 11 of 38
    SoliSoli Posts: 8,571member
    1) Even if Apple's own R&D facilities create a finished prototype, Foxconn would still need to create their own prototypes to verify many aspects of production quality and efficiency before production can ramp up.

    2) I'm indifferent toward the glowing logo. Leave it off or bring it back, I couldn't care less what Apple chooses, but I've never understood the desire for consumers to want to advertise for a company. I certainly don't cover mine, but I also didn't cry foul when it was removed from the MB and MBP. Who needs validation that they're using an Apple laptop by requiring that the logo glow? I don't get it.

    3) The "source" was verified by Reddit, but what does that actually mean? Are we talking about an IP address inside of their facility? I bet if you're a hacker that was able to get access to some employee's personal device you wouldn't be above trolling Reddit readers, Apple fans, and tech enthusiasts with a bunch of fake reports. Not that's what I think is happening—I personally think the "source" sounds legit.
    edited June 2017 pscooter63StrangeDaysmazda 3s
  • Reply 12 of 38
    I just think it was ugly and glad to see it go.
  • Reply 13 of 38
    This is what is called an "official" rumor. These people and their rumors make me sick. Are they really all that desperate for their five "seconds" of fame? There's only a few more months to go for Apple to announce a finished product, so what's the need for this pre-announcement nonsense. It doesn't really mean anything at all. I just don't see who this early information actually helps. Oh, yeah, article writers.
  • Reply 14 of 38
    analogjackanalogjack Posts: 1,063member
    Now we finally know who the 'well connected' Ming-Chi Kuo is 'well connected' to!
  • Reply 15 of 38
    Why bring back the glowing logo? The solid logo on Macbooks/iPhones looks better, uses no power, is cheaper to manufacture and is one less part to break.
    You know the one thing I really enjoyed about seeing the glowing Apple logo is when there were events or product announcements by other companies and when the cameras panned the audience from the stage you could see how many Apple Mac notebooks were being used. That would really be crushing to the company holding the event showing over half the audience's notebooks were sporting that glowing Apple logo. Especially something like a Microsoft Surface Pro event. MacBook force in da house. I've nothing against Microsoft, but I'm just saying. Yeah, bring back that glowing logo with a flashing multicolor LED for full effect.
    entropys
  • Reply 16 of 38
    entropysentropys Posts: 1,566member
    Why bring back the glowing logo? The solid logo on Macbooks/iPhones looks better, uses no power, is cheaper to manufacture and is one less part to break.
    You know the one thing I really enjoyed about seeing the glowing Apple logo is when there were events or product announcements by other companies and when the cameras panned the audience from the stage you could see how many Apple Mac notebooks were being used. That would really be crushing to the company holding the event showing over half the audience's notebooks were sporting that glowing Apple logo. Especially something like a Microsoft Surface Pro event. MacBook force in da house. I've nothing against Microsoft, but I'm just saying. Yeah, bring back that glowing logo with a flashing multicolor LED for full effect.
    Yeah, in the immortal words of Arthur Hogget: "That'll do Pig, that'll do."
  • Reply 17 of 38
    Mike WuertheleMike Wuerthele Posts: 4,200administrator
    Soli said:

    3) The "source" was verified by Reddit, but what does that actually mean? Are we talking about an IP address inside of their facility? I bet if you're a hacker that was able to get access to some employee's personal device you wouldn't be above trolling Reddit readers, Apple fans, and tech enthusiasts with a bunch of fake reports. Not that's what I think is happening—I personally think the "source" sounds legit.
    Besides the crap with Sonder and the alleged e-ink Apple prototype keyboard that was NOTHING of the sort that they pulled last year that they're trying to hand wave away, the source said that they sell data to analysts.

    So, why give it away for free on Reddit, if that's the case?
  • Reply 18 of 38
    cornchipcornchip Posts: 1,198member
    If it's the same clunky-ass optics as in the google version:



    Thats a big nope for me.
  • Reply 19 of 38
    timuscatimusca Posts: 120member
    bb-15 said:
    Fake. Someone on reddit says they work for Foxconn and this has to be true? No, it doesn't.
    This is just a person looking for attention. 
    I'm one of the moderators on /r/apple. If this employee is hoaxing us, then his evidence is realllllly convincing. We're convinced this guy is a legitimate source based on what he provided us.
  • Reply 20 of 38
    SoliSoli Posts: 8,571member
    Soli said:

    3) The "source" was verified by Reddit, but what does that actually mean? Are we talking about an IP address inside of their facility? I bet if you're a hacker that was able to get access to some employee's personal device you wouldn't be above trolling Reddit readers, Apple fans, and tech enthusiasts with a bunch of fake reports. Not that's what I think is happening—I personally think the "source" sounds legit.
    Besides the crap with Sonder and the alleged e-ink Apple prototype keyboard that was NOTHING of the sort that they pulled last year that they're trying to hand wave away, the source said that they sell data to analysts.

    So, why give it away for free on Reddit, if that's the case?
    I'm sure I'll never understand their motives.


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