Video shows pilot sending image from iPhone to second plane at 35,000 feet with AirDrop

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  • Reply 21 of 32
    macseekermacseeker Posts: 550member
    kramasnu said:
    I love the disclaimer on the bottom.
  • Reply 22 of 32
    ccakl said:
    Looks fake. If you look closely the plane icon on the top left indicates 'Aeroplane Mode' is on. If you try it on your iPhone when you try and send a photo via Airdrop when Aeroplane mode is on, next to where the devices would show it says "AirDrop. Tap to turn on Wi-Fi and Bluetooth to share with Airdrop." In the video whilst Aeroplane mode is activated, as soon as he selects the photos to send, a device appears and next to it "Tap to share with Airdrop".
    Actually, you can be in Airplane Mode, still activate AirDrop in the Control Centre in the box to the right of AirPlay. 👍🏻
    cornchip
  • Reply 23 of 32
    ccakl said:
    Looks fake. If you look closely the plane icon on the top left indicates 'Aeroplane Mode' is on.
    Bullshit. I have just checked it myself.
    I can perfectly send a file via AirDrop even with Aeroplane mode ON. You just have to reenable wifi and bluetooth for that. And when you do, you will see aeroplane mode icon still in ON state, even after you turned on WiFi.
  • Reply 24 of 32
    ccaklccakl Posts: 2member
    ccakl said:
    Looks fake. If you look closely the plane icon on the top left indicates 'Aeroplane Mode' is on.
    Bullshit. I have just checked it myself.
    I can perfectly send a file via AirDrop even with Aeroplane mode ON. You just have to reenable wifi and bluetooth for that. And when you do, you will see aeroplane mode icon still in ON state, even after you turned on WiFi.
    Just tried the above tips and I must admit I have been proven wrong. Thanks to Flashfan207 and anton zuykov for pointing that out 👍
  • Reply 25 of 32
    My daughter and I found this to be a good communications workaround recently while we were separated due to seating issues on an international flight. We used the Notes app and shot messages back and forth freely. Yes it is a little more cumbersome than texting but it gets the job done. Someone out there in developer world? Please simplify this for us users.
  • Reply 26 of 32
    chaickachaicka Posts: 257member
    Hmmmm...seems like a fake given the iPhone was in 'Airplane Mode' without WiFi (top left corner) and the bluetooth icon seems grey-out (top right corner). AirDrop requires WiFi is mandatory for AirDrop to work. At least in iOS 11 Beta, it is possible to be in Airplane Mode but the moment WiFi is enable the WiFi icon shows up besides the Airplane icon.
    edited August 2017
  • Reply 27 of 32
    berndog said:
    My daughter and I found this to be a good communications workaround recently while we were separated due to seating issues on an international flight. We used the Notes app and shot messages back and forth freely. Yes it is a little more cumbersome than texting but it gets the job done. Someone out there in developer world? Please simplify this for us users.

    Have a look at the App Firechat by Open Garden Inc. It creates a mesh network using Bluetooth and peer to peer wifi and allows messaging etc without a cellular signal.
  • Reply 28 of 32

    chaicka said:
    Hmmmm...seems like a fake given the iPhone was in 'Airplane Mode' without WiFi (top left corner) and the bluetooth icon seems grey-out (top right corner). AirDrop requires WiFi is mandatory for AirDrop to work. At least in iOS 11 Beta, it is possible to be in Airplane Mode but the moment WiFi is enable the WiFi icon shows up besides the Airplane icon.

    The wifi icon only shows up when you are connected to an access point. If not connected to an access point, it will not show up during airdrop. Same with bluetooth....it will show greyed out as it only negotiates the transfer to wifi, it doesn't connect to the other device.
  • Reply 29 of 32
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,857member
    MacPro said:
    "Hey can you maneuver your 747 a bit closer to mine, your just out of range, I've got some great pictures to share."
    The other plane is a 777. The target device is probably the 777's iPad flight book, given the name.
    Well as we now know it was a fake but what part of what I wrote as a joke inferred I was referring to the planes in the video and not about pilots doing this in general?   I can be a pedant too ;)
  • Reply 30 of 32
    shaminoshamino Posts: 544member
    Unfortunately, the video has been deleted.  Ratz...
    kramasnu said:
    FCC rules are only applicable in the US.  If the planes are over international waters, that isn't going to matter.

    It might be a bit different if there were FAA regulations, but the FAA doesn't prohibit cell phone use.

    Four reactions:
    ...
      4. What about the "cell phones can interrupt flight operations" claim?
    That claim has been demonstrated bogus for a long time.

    Some older GSM phones have been shown to interfere with old unshielded equipment, but modern phones use different frequencies and modern flight equipment is shielded.  There was a Mythbusters episode where they tested this.  They could only get their phone to mess up an instrument when directly transmitting the phone's signal into the instrument's antenna.  When they tried it in a real plane (on the ground, because they couldn't legally try it in the air), the couldn't make it do anything.  The pilot then pointed out that the equipment is shielded specifically to prevent any such interference.

    It's worth noting that the ban on cell phone use while in flight is from the FCC, not from the FAA.  If there was a true danger to flight safety, you can be sure the FAA would have a regulation in play.
    edited August 2017
  • Reply 31 of 32
    MacPro said:
    MacPro said:
    "Hey can you maneuver your 747 a bit closer to mine, your just out of range, I've got some great pictures to share."
    The other plane is a 777. The target device is probably the 777's iPad flight book, given the name.
    Well as we now know it was a fake but what part of what I wrote as a joke inferred I was referring to the planes in the video and not about pilots doing this in general?   I can be a pedant too ;)
    The Singapore plane is a B777 (the receiver), the other plane (sender) is a NCA B747-800 
  • Reply 32 of 32
    Four reactions:
      1. Cool
      2. Isn't 1000 feet separation too close for safety?
      3. Shouldn't he "keep his eyes on the road"?
      4. What about the "cell phones can interrupt flight operations" claim?
    2. no. It is RVSM and min separation that is allowed vertically is 1000 ft, which is what they had, because the author of the video was at FL350, and the other plane was sitting at FL360.
    3. He keeps his eyes on the instrumentation and occasionally - looks outside.
    4. Not when you are at FL3xx. Cell phone signal might interfere with signals from approach nav systems when you land. However, when airplane is flying in cruise, it relies on IRS and GPS. And neither is affected by radiosignals in wifi / gsm part of the spectrum.
    RVSM rule provides 2000ft seperation for traffics flying same heading. Odd flight level (FL 290, 310,330) for Track of 000°-179° and Even flight level (FL 300, 320, 340) for track of 180°- 359°




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