It's somewhat amusing to see the Apple fans defend Apple's pricing - note I am huge fan and have all their gear. But if we can't even get ourselves to admit this stuff then well, nothing will ever change. It took a lot to get Apple to admit its mistakes with the MacBook Pro rectified with the new ones re Keyboard, Escape key, good GPU now etc.
This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
Workstations have always been expensive. The Mac Pro is no exception to that rule, and Windows workstations are priced similarly to the Mac Pro.
First of all, those machines come with 3 years of on-site warranty (and for a hundred or so more, that can be bumped to 5 years of on-site next business day).
Second, no company ever pays the website price. It's typically lower (15% to 30%), even for a single unit purchase.
It's somewhat amusing to see the Apple fans defend Apple's pricing - note I am huge fan and have all their gear. But if we can't even get ourselves to admit this stuff then well, nothing will ever change. It took a lot to get Apple to admit its mistakes with the MacBook Pro rectified with the new ones re Keyboard, Escape key, good GPU now etc.
This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
Yeah, guilt trip. The whole world is running by...
They don't take the platform as a whole into account and assume whatever they saw it's true.
Sure you can find faster and cheaper lower-end products and call yourself a winner. Even a teenager could do that math. So? Every socket they've added on the board, or the possibility of the processor was free all of the sudden?
They just don't think anything further than what they could afford. More power to them (I like cheap stuff too), but it's foolish to ask a premium tool (and not primarily for personal use) to be cheaper.
Workstations have always been expensive. The Mac Pro is no exception to that rule, and Windows workstations are priced similarly to the Mac Pro.
First of all, those machines come with 3 years of on-site warranty (and for a hundred or so more, that can be bumped to 5 years of on-site next business day).
Second, no company ever pays the website price. It's typically lower (15% to 30%), even for a single unit purchase.
It's somewhat amusing to see the Apple fans defend Apple's pricing - note I am huge fan and have all their gear. But if we can't even get ourselves to admit this stuff then well, nothing will ever change. It took a lot to get Apple to admit its mistakes with the MacBook Pro rectified with the new ones re Keyboard, Escape key, good GPU now etc.
This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
Yeah, guilt trip. The whole world is running by...
They don't take the platform as a whole into account and assume whatever they saw it's true.
Sure you can find faster and cheaper lower-end products and call yourself a winner. Even a teenager could do that math. So? Every socket they've added on the board, or the possibility of the processor was free all of the sudden?
They just don't think anything further than what they could afford. More power to them (I like cheap stuff too), but it's foolish to ask a premium tool (and not primarily for personal use) to be cheaper.
In response to your last paragraph: This is where your argument fails - the quality of the Apple gear is no better or worse. I've had to take my AirPods, Apple Watch and two MacBook Pro (both with butterfly keyboards) back. Not to mention the countless software issues (bugs) over the last couple of years. Similar priced and specced machines sold by Dell or Microsoft have comparable quality. Fortunately my new MacBook Pro 16 hasn't had any issues these past three weeks.
Workstations have always been expensive. The Mac Pro is no exception to that rule, and Windows workstations are priced similarly to the Mac Pro.
First of all, those machines come with 3 years of on-site warranty (and for a hundred or so more, that can be bumped to 5 years of on-site next business day).
Second, no company ever pays the website price. It's typically lower (15% to 30%), even for a single unit purchase.
It's somewhat amusing to see the Apple fans defend Apple's pricing - note I am huge fan and have all their gear. But if we can't even get ourselves to admit this stuff then well, nothing will ever change. It took a lot to get Apple to admit its mistakes with the MacBook Pro rectified with the new ones re Keyboard, Escape key, good GPU now etc.
This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
Yeah, guilt trip. The whole world is running by...
They don't take the platform as a whole into account and assume whatever they saw it's true.
Sure you can find faster and cheaper lower-end products and call yourself a winner. Even a teenager could do that math. So? Every socket they've added on the board, or the possibility of the processor was free all of the sudden?
They just don't think anything further than what they could afford. More power to them (I like cheap stuff too), but it's foolish to ask a premium tool (and not primarily for personal use) to be cheaper.
In response to your last paragraph: This is where your argument fails - the quality of the Apple gear is no better or worse. I've had to take my AirPods, Apple Watch and two MacBook Pro (both with butterfly keyboards) back. Not to mention the countless software issues (bugs) over the last couple of years. Similar priced and specced machines sold by Dell or Microsoft have comparable quality. Fortunately my new MacBook Pro 16 hasn't had any issues these past three weeks.
Actually there ar some truths to this article and alot of fanboy stuff too though... example..
Users have balked, and cracked jokes at the $400 Apple chooses to charge for wheels, yet don't think twice -- or even consider -- the $309 Microsoft charges for the operating system on a Windows workstation.
We talking about some freaking wheels vs and operating system in this case. Sounds like a fa boy talk.... I am sure someone is gonna try to reverse my comment on me. And can try but you will only prove my point even further.
I can't help but to think that the writer missed the idea in Apple's pricing. The trick per say. See a windows workstation has myriads of options of accessories to pair with it that can be found at many price points. But to buy a Mac you can't just pair it with any old monitor. The lower price for the desktop is about Apple knowing their reputation for overpricing is becoming a known trait. The trick here is that instead of the desktop they chose to hike the price elsewhere. Because they know the enclosed ecosystem they built.
So yep... 400 for wheels and $100 for a stand. Mind you isnt the material only what... aluminum? Well it used to be expensive...... not anymore. Rather it's the cheapest metal actually. So you spend that much for wheels that costed how much to make? I'll bet that metal guy on YouTube could recreate those wheels for much less.
So yeah the HP costs more but due to having a more open ecosystem where people can opt to buy accessories from somewhere else at a lower price.
Now there are a few aspects where things fall even price wise.
Apple is playing a smart game that many after reading this still won't understand... lol... But I do think it's a smart play.
This though is worth the use of the word Pro. I can't say that about the iPhone though despite Apple's efforts to make the phone look Pro by pushing that word everywhere when iPhone is the subject. Some are just too blinded to see that. There is nothing really pro about an iPhone. It makes a smartphone easy to use for NON-PROS.
This computer though is nice. Too much $ though for me. Performance seems cool but I haven't seen anyone really test the thing out yet. (If anyone on YouTube has test it out in a real test let me know. I wanna see that video. Last one I saw was a recording studio test which didn't even put a dent.
Actually there ar some truths to this article and alot of fanboy stuff too though... example..
Users have balked, and cracked jokes at the $400 Apple chooses to charge for wheels, yet don't think twice -- or even consider -- the $309 Microsoft charges for the operating system on a Windows workstation.
We talking about some freaking wheels vs and operating system in this case. Sounds like a fa boy talk.... I am sure someone is gonna try to reverse my comment on me. And can try but you will only prove my point even further.
I can't help but to think that the writer missed the idea in Apple's pricing. The trick per say. See a windows workstation has myriads of options of accessories to pair with it that can be found at many price points. But to buy a Mac you can't just pair it with any old monitor. The lower price for the desktop is about Apple knowing their reputation for overpricing is becoming a known trait. The trick here is that instead of the desktop they chose to hike the price elsewhere. Because they know the enclosed ecosystem they built.
So yep... 400 for wheels and $100 for a stand. Mind you isnt the material only what... aluminum? Well it used to be expensive...... not anymore. Rather it's the cheapest metal actually. So you spend that much for wheels that costed how much to make? I'll bet that metal guy on YouTube could recreate those wheels for much less.
So yeah the HP costs more but due to having a more open ecosystem where people can opt to buy accessories from somewhere else at a lower price.
Now there are a few aspects where things fall even price wise.
Apple is playing a smart game that many after reading this still won't understand... lol... But I do think it's a smart play.
This though is worth the use of the word Pro. I can't say that about the iPhone though despite Apple's efforts to make the phone look Pro by pushing that word everywhere when iPhone is the subject. Some are just too blinded to see that. There is nothing really pro about an iPhone. It makes a smartphone easy to use for NON-PROS.
This computer though is nice. Too much $ though for me. Performance seems cool but I haven't seen anyone really test the thing out yet. (If anyone on YouTube has test it out in a real test let me know. I wanna see that video. Last one I saw was a recording studio test which didn't even put a dent.
Or focus on facts and stop throwing names. Hardly ever does. Which is why I'm grumpy about the whole thing.
It's somewhat amusing to see the Apple fans defend Apple's pricing - note I am huge fan and have all their gear. But if we can't even get ourselves to admit this stuff then well, nothing will ever change. It took a lot to get Apple to admit its mistakes with the MacBook Pro rectified with the new ones re Keyboard, Escape key, good GPU now etc.
This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
Yeah, guilt trip. The whole world is running by...
They don't take the platform as a whole into account and assume whatever they saw it's true.
Sure you can find faster and cheaper lower-end products and call yourself a winner. Even a teenager could do that math. So? Every socket they've added on the board, or the possibility of the processor was free all of the sudden?
They just don't think anything further than what they could afford. More power to them (I like cheap stuff too), but it's foolish to ask a premium tool (and not primarily for personal use) to be cheaper.
In response to your last paragraph: This is where your argument fails - the quality of the Apple gear is no better or worse. I've had to take my AirPods, Apple Watch and two MacBook Pro (both with butterfly keyboards) back. Not to mention the countless software issues (bugs) over the last couple of years. Similar priced and specced machines sold by Dell or Microsoft have comparable quality. Fortunately my new MacBook Pro 16 hasn't had any issues these past three weeks.
It's somewhat amusing to see the Apple fans defend Apple's pricing - note I am huge fan and have all their gear. But if we can't even get ourselves to admit this stuff then well, nothing will ever change. It took a lot to get Apple to admit its mistakes with the MacBook Pro rectified with the new ones re Keyboard, Escape key, good GPU now etc.
This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
Yeah, guilt trip. The whole world is running by...
They don't take the platform as a whole into account and assume whatever they saw it's true.
Sure you can find faster and cheaper lower-end products and call yourself a winner. Even a teenager could do that math. So? Every socket they've added on the board, or the possibility of the processor was free all of the sudden?
They just don't think anything further than what they could afford. More power to them (I like cheap stuff too), but it's foolish to ask a premium tool (and not primarily for personal use) to be cheaper.
In response to your last paragraph: This is where your argument fails - the quality of the Apple gear is no better or worse. I've had to take my AirPods, Apple Watch and two MacBook Pro (both with butterfly keyboards) back. Not to mention the countless software issues (bugs) over the last couple of years. Similar priced and specced machines sold by Dell or Microsoft have comparable quality. Fortunately my new MacBook Pro 16 hasn't had any issues these past three weeks.
The same machine via EPP is around 25% less (~$3000), which is similar to what a company might pay when purchasing.
That’s just an iMac Pro system, except it comes with a $1000 monitor in a small footprint, and this Lenovo ends up about the same price with a comparable monitor.
Workstations have always been expensive. The Mac Pro is no exception to that rule, and Windows workstations are priced similarly to the Mac Pro.
First of all, those machines come with 3 years of on-site warranty (and for a hundred or so more, that can be bumped to 5 years of on-site next business day).
Second, no company ever pays the website price. It's typically lower (15% to 30%), even for a single unit purchase.
The following $2905 workstation is equivalent to the $5999 Mac Pro both in terms of performance and in terms of using all workstation-class components:
$460 - Supermicro MBD-X11SPI-TF-O motherboard $749 - Xeon W-3223 $100 - Noctua NH-U12S DX-3647 CPU cooler $200 - 32 GB DDR4 2666 ECC RAM $525 - AMD Radeon Pro WX 7100 8GB $280 - Dune Pro case with a cheese grater $160 - Samsung 970 Pro NVMe SSD 512GB $231 - Seasonic Prime Ultra 850W 80+ Titanium PSU $200 - Windows 10 Pro -------------------- $2,905
That is not "just a $400 i9 processor jammed in a machine with a plain-as-day Northbridge, a few PCI-E slots, and a couple of I/O options". It is a bona fide workstation, with the same CPU, server-grade ECC RAM, workstation GPU that slightly outdoes the one in the Mac, etc.
Granted, the article said that build-your-own rigs could come in less expensive, but the authors seemed to imply that such builds would not really be comparable to a Mac Pro because they are made from consumer-grade parts. In any case, there's the equivalent+ custom workstation.
The component hardware quality may be the same -- no such implication was made that it wouldn't be. But, from a support standpoint, it isn't equivalent. From a labor of assembly standpoint, it isn't. Way fewer PCI-E and one whole X16 slot on yours. Four fewer RAM slots on yours. Zero Thunderbolt 3 on yours as far as I can tell. Louder. Weaker power supply. You do get more SATA slots, and more USB-A. And, like we said in the article, add more money for Windows for Workstations.
You want to do this? Go nuts. It's probably perfect for what you want to do. But, it isn't equivalent to the Mac Pro in every measure, and falls very short on several key metrics, like most comparisons with part pickers.
Dear AI
Please add a single button to the editor toolbar which will paste in this response to any half-wit who posts a spec comparison that doesn’t even match.
If the button can support an animated gif, then I’ve found one of RuPaul summarising Mike’s excellent and measured response more succinctly.
The same machine via EPP is around 25% less (~$3000), which is similar to what a company might pay when purchasing.
That’s just an iMac Pro system, except it comes with a $1000 monitor in a small footprint, and this Lenovo ends up about the same price with a comparable monitor.
ISV certification, 5 years on-site next business day warranty, components that can be upgraded, no major thermal constraint, superior NVIDIA graphics options and a ~$3000 cost for businesses (not the $4000 shown online). You also aren't forced to buy a built in monitor.
There is absolutely no need to explain the price of the Mac Pro to anyone. The market it was built for knows full well the value of the machine. As usual the tech media is hell bent on spinning this as another example of Apple’s “overpriced” hardware. There’s already a video on YouTube by some complete dimwit claiming the Hackintosh he built outperforms the Mac Pro for a quarter of the price. Stupid is as stupid does. The complaints here in AI are from sub-Pro hobbyists and so-called Prosumers who thought they would get a tower with slots starting at $1999.00.
The machine is overpriced there is little doubt there.
As for out performing the new Mac Pro, you need to look at the results AMDs Thread Ripper is delivering. We are taking 2X performance deltas over some of Intel’s chips. The fact is nobody concerned about performance will be buying a Mac Pro.
Nice try, but it won’t work. Every article I’ve seen leads off with the price, usually highlighting the wheels, monitor or the monitor stand. The only things that might shut up those laughing will be if it sells well even at its price point and reviews and user testimonies are positive.
And that won’t shut up a dedicated core of people who just seem to like complaining.
Anyone buying the wheels deserves to be laughed at!!!!
There is absolutely no need to explain the price of the Mac Pro to anyone. The market it was built for knows full well the value of the machine. As usual the tech media is hell bent on spinning this as another example of Apple’s “overpriced” hardware. There’s already a video on YouTube by some complete dimwit claiming the Hackintosh he built outperforms the Mac Pro for a quarter of the price. Stupid is as stupid does. The complaints here in AI are from sub-Pro hobbyists and so-called Prosumers who thought they would get a tower with slots starting at $1999.00.
I feel like your third sentence explains why we did this piece.
With all due respect, I disagree. AI has presented the new Mac Pro, however in nuanced terms, as an article for consumers and not a workstation for professionals. Two examples: AI posted an article about where to get and how to install third party RAM on the Mac Pro to avoid paying Apple for outrageous RAM prices. Why would a pro do that? As a consumer I would easily consider that. But not a pro working for an agency. And two. You are quick to rationalize for Apple re: the $500 wheels by listing Windows operating system as a similar $500 add on. You know that’s not the same thing.
My point being is that by diving into the nuts and bolts of the new Mac Pro you are treating it like a consumer product when I would guess 99% of your readers will not purchase it. You reap what you sew.
... what? That is not a rational take based on what we've said and continue to say about the machine.
A solo professional, or small video studio will buy the Mac Pro, and install their own RAM. Pixar, Disney, and the like will not. Neither are consumers, and both are who the Mac Pro is aimed at.
I agree that looked at as objects, the wheels and the cost of Windows aren't the same thing. However, looked at as an argument why the Mac Pro is expensive because this optional thing is $400 and a Windows Workstation is cheap if you don't include the cost of the required Windows install is the point of the exercise.
Everything about the new Pro is grossly over priced. There is really no defense for $400 wheels.
The same machine via EPP is around 25% less (~$3000), which is similar to what a company might pay when purchasing.
That’s just an iMac Pro system, except it comes with a $1000 monitor in a small footprint, and this Lenovo ends up about the same price with a comparable monitor.
ISV certification, 5 years on-site next business day warranty, components that can be upgraded, no major thermal constraint, superior NVIDIA graphics options and a ~$3000 cost for businesses (not the $4000 shown online). You also aren't forced to buy a built in monitor.
I priced out MSRP $5900, and with the holiday coupon, it went down to $4700, for iMac Pro like components.
WiFi Wireless LAN Adapter : Intel Dual Band 8265 AC (2 x 2) + Bluetooth 4.1 with vPro
Thunderbolt I/O : REAR THUNDERBOLT CARD 1 PORT
Audio Card : Integrated Audio
Keyboard : USB Traditional Keyboard Black English
Pointing Device : USB Mouse Black
Power Cord : LineCord - US
Power Supply : Tower 92% Power 690W
Language Pack : Publication-English
Warranty : 3 Year On-site
It also said the warranty cost money, which I didn’t select, but appeared in the details anyways. I couldn’t deselect the 1 TB HDD, but it only has one TB port, so maybe an even trade.
Yes, it comes in a box with internal expansion. I prefer that, but the Lenovo ID. Apple is aiming for the part of the market who prefer its industrial design, with a more compact form. Price-wise, this doesn’t seem much different, unless I did something wrong with configuration.
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This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
right?
meh, giving the score I've lost my faith.
Lenovo ThinkStation P520: ~$4000
- Intel Xeon W-2145 (8 cores)
- 32 GB ECC DDR4-2666
- NVIDIA RTX Quadro 4000 8 GB
- 512 GB M2 PCIe SSD
- Thunderbolt 3
- 5G Ethernet
- 900W
- 5 years on-site next business day warranty
- ISV certified for a wide range of software
The same machine via EPP is around 25% less (~$3000), which is similar to what a company might pay when purchasing.They don't take the platform as a whole into account and assume whatever they saw it's true.
Sure you can find faster and cheaper lower-end products and call yourself a winner. Even a teenager could do that math. So? Every socket they've added on the board, or the possibility of the processor was free all of the sudden?
They just don't think anything further than what they could afford. More power to them (I like cheap stuff too), but it's foolish to ask a premium tool (and not primarily for personal use) to be cheaper.
This is where your argument fails - the quality of the Apple gear is no better or worse. I've had to take my AirPods, Apple Watch and two MacBook Pro (both with butterfly keyboards) back. Not to mention the countless software issues (bugs) over the last couple of years. Similar priced and specced machines sold by Dell or Microsoft have comparable quality. Fortunately my new MacBook Pro 16 hasn't had any issues these past three weeks.
Are they 3x faster than the MacBook Air?
https://www.cnet.com/reviews/microsoft-surface-laptop-3-13-5-inch-review/
Yeah, no.
Learn to argue.
Users have balked, and cracked jokes at the $400 Apple chooses to charge for wheels, yet don't think twice -- or even consider -- the $309 Microsoft charges for the operating system on a Windows workstation.
We talking about some freaking wheels vs and operating system in this case. Sounds like a fa boy talk.... I am sure someone is gonna try to reverse my comment on me. And can try but you will only prove my point even further.
I can't help but to think that the writer missed the idea in Apple's pricing. The trick per say. See a windows workstation has myriads of options of accessories to pair with it that can be found at many price points. But to buy a Mac you can't just pair it with any old monitor. The lower price for the desktop is about Apple knowing their reputation for overpricing is becoming a known trait. The trick here is that instead of the desktop they chose to hike the price elsewhere. Because they know the enclosed ecosystem they built.
So yep... 400 for wheels and $100 for a stand. Mind you isnt the material only what... aluminum? Well it used to be expensive...... not anymore. Rather it's the cheapest metal actually. So you spend that much for wheels that costed how much to make? I'll bet that metal guy on YouTube could recreate those wheels for much less.
So yeah the HP costs more but due to having a more open ecosystem where people can opt to buy accessories from somewhere else at a lower price.
Now there are a few aspects where things fall even price wise.
Apple is playing a smart game that many after reading this still won't understand... lol... But I do think it's a smart play.
This though is worth the use of the word Pro. I can't say that about the iPhone though despite Apple's efforts to make the phone look Pro by pushing that word everywhere when iPhone is the subject. Some are just too blinded to see that. There is nothing really pro about an iPhone. It makes a smartphone easy to use for NON-PROS.
This computer though is nice. Too much $ though for me. Performance seems cool but I haven't seen anyone really test the thing out yet. (If anyone on YouTube has test it out in a real test let me know. I wanna see that video. Last one I saw was a recording studio test which didn't even put a dent.
Despite all of this, on the market today, the MacBook Air is still around the same price as the Surface Laptop 3.
Surface Laptop 3 - $1799
- i7-1065G7 (4 cores / 8 threads)
- Iris Plus G7
- 16 GB LPDDR4
- 512 GB PCIe SSD
- 2.8 lbs
MacBook Air - $1699- i5-8210Y (2 cores / 4 threads)
- UHD 617
- 16 GB LPDDR3
- 512 GB PCIe SSD
- 2.7 lbs
And then, of course, to throw in a little more competition at Apple and Microsoft...Razer Blade Stealth - $1799
Dear AI
Please add a single button to the editor toolbar which will paste in this response to any half-wit who posts a spec comparison that doesn’t even match.
If the button can support an animated gif, then I’ve found one of RuPaul summarising Mike’s excellent and measured response more succinctly.