AAPL bleeds record $97B in valuation over weekend [u]

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  • Reply 41 of 84
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    MisterKit said:
    If the Apple stock price gets low enough Apple can just buy themself out and the game will be over.
    No.  Apple cannot do this.
    lolliver
  • Reply 42 of 84
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member
    MisterKit said:
    If the Apple stock price gets low enough Apple can just buy themself out and the game will be over.
    Even with the current slaughter AAPL is still worth $1.18T, not exactly a candidate for going private.
    SpamSandwichlolliver
  • Reply 43 of 84
    SoliSoli Posts: 10,038member
    crowley said:
    MisterKit said:
    If the Apple stock price gets low enough Apple can just buy themself out and the game will be over.
    No.  Apple cannot do this.
    It's more complicated than a simple yes or no. Apple can and does buy back shares of itself all the time. If a group of investors obtains the majority of a public company’s outstanding stock shares they absolutely can make it a private company, and I don't know of any other time this has occurred except when a public company is extremely under valued.
    edited March 2020 dysamoria
  • Reply 44 of 84
    SoliSoli Posts: 10,038member
    lkrupp said:
    MisterKit said:
    If the Apple stock price gets low enough Apple can just buy themself out and the game will be over.
    Even with the current slaughter AAPL is still worth $1.18T, not exactly a candidate for going private.
    Nothing about Apple's current valuation or their structure makes ever going private a feasible option.
    lolliverpscooter63
  • Reply 45 of 84
    coolfactorcoolfactor Posts: 2,318member
    lkrupp said:
    Fear and panic have won the day. Ebay has banned the sale of masks and hand sanitizer to prevent price gouging. Shelves are empty, people are running around with their hair on fire screaming, I wonder what would happen if some real apocalypse occurred. We're like frogs sitting in a pot of water, blissfully unaware of the rising temperatures caused by climate change as the temperature rises until we are boiled alive. But nobody cares about that. In the end we are just mindless beasts no different than our prehistoric ancestors.

    You know that's not true. A ton is happening on the climate change front. But the question is — what are YOU doing to change your lifestyle to support it? Have you planted more trees in your yard? Have you switched to a hybrid or electric vehicle? Have you stopped burning wood in your fireplace? At the end of the day, spewing accusations on the greater population is meaningless if you can't "own" your own words.

    This coronavirus situation is a real situation to worry about, maybe not the virus itself, but the panic it has caused. Your comment is not helping to calm that panic. What can do to actually help make this world a better place? That's the question.
    edited March 2020 spice-boydysamoria
  • Reply 46 of 84
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    asdasd said:
    Wgkrueger said:
    lkrupp said:
    spice-boy said:

    lkrupp said:
    Who gets to do "after hours trading"? Certainly not the individual investor, right? If certain investors get to buy and sell securities over the weekend why is the stock market "closed" on Saturday and Sunday. I don't get this.
    I guess all your "hard earned" money made from owning stock in Apple will be gone soon. Maybe another huge tax break for the 1% would make it right? 
    It's times like these when the communists crawl out of the woodwork promising a chicken in every pot even though they know they can't deliver on that promise. "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work" is an old Russian saying. Time to send the rich to reeducation camps and confiscate their wealth. Oh wait, that's Bernie's plan. My bad.
    He’s a socialist not a communist. Get your FUD right. 
    He’s really more of a Marxist.
    He is nothing like a Marxist, or anywhere close to a Marxist.  For instance he isnt trying to seize all the means of production, or instigate a worker's revolution. A few tweaks to medicare, some new taxes does not a marxist make. 
    Guess you’re not familiar with his platform or his tweets?

    Just today he insisted that a Coronavirus treatment should be “free”. How does that work?

    https://twitter.com/berniesanders/status/1236748536475275266?s=21
    edited March 2020
  • Reply 47 of 84
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member

    asdasd said:
    People have lost their minds. There's companies that are getting close to being undervalued, imo. Traders are going nuts. Investors should remain calm and look for deals. 
    Eventually.... hard to take a kicking now. Of course Apple is just here it was late last year. 

    The Dow has dropped two years of gains though. 
    Drops of 20-30% would be a buy signal for many. It’s possible the market will continue to wildly bounce up and down for weeks more.
  • Reply 48 of 84
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,435moderator
    lkrupp said:
    dysamoria said:
    Hooray for the invisible hand of the irrational gambling system of “public ownership”. Congratulations on always compounding problems. You just keep spreading that chaos, you delightfully magical economic system. Society will continue to worship Wall Street no matter what mess you make.
    And what's your alternative economic system? Government ownership instead of public ownership?
    It just needs regulation rather than an alternative. These kind of irrational trades happen because people can buy/sell whenever they want. If you could only buy/sell in a given timeframe (e.g once per month) in restricted volumes and leveraged trading was banned, the whole market would be much more stable. Trading currency should be banned too. This kind of regulation would value investors and not speculators. But, like with any corrupt system, where there's dirty money, there's dirty money greasing the wheels to keep it just the way it is.
    FileMakerFellermuthuk_vanalingamdysamoria
  • Reply 49 of 84
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member
    MacPro said:

    spice-boy said:

    lkrupp said:
    Who gets to do "after hours trading"? Certainly not the individual investor, right? If certain investors get to buy and sell securities over the weekend why is the stock market "closed" on Saturday and Sunday. I don't get this.
    I guess all your "hard earned" money made from owning stock in Apple will be gone soon. Maybe another huge tax break for the 1% would make it right? 
    I suspect many here, like I did, bought AAPL so long ago it isn't that terrible so far.
    sorry you missed my point, buying stock is the laziest way to "earn" a living doing something that contributes to society is how to earn something. 
    dysamoria
  • Reply 50 of 84
    SoliSoli Posts: 10,038member
    spice-boy said:
    MacPro said:
    spice-boy said:
    lkrupp said:
    Who gets to do "after hours trading"? Certainly not the individual investor, right? If certain investors get to buy and sell securities over the weekend why is the stock market "closed" on Saturday and Sunday. I don't get this.
    I guess all your "hard earned" money made from owning stock in Apple will be gone soon. Maybe another huge tax break for the 1% would make it right? 
    I suspect many here, like I did, bought AAPL so long ago it isn't that terrible so far.
    sorry you missed my point, buying stock is the laziest way to "earn" a living doing something that contributes to society is how to earn something. 
    1) "Work smarter, not harder." — Scrooge McDuck

    2) Are you honestly not aware of what companies would be like if investors weren't allowed?
    edited March 2020
  • Reply 51 of 84
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,564member
    Soli said:
    spice-boy said:
    MacPro said:
    spice-boy said:
    lkrupp said:
    Who gets to do "after hours trading"? Certainly not the individual investor, right? If certain investors get to buy and sell securities over the weekend why is the stock market "closed" on Saturday and Sunday. I don't get this.
    I guess all your "hard earned" money made from owning stock in Apple will be gone soon. Maybe another huge tax break for the 1% would make it right? 
    I suspect many here, like I did, bought AAPL so long ago it isn't that terrible so far.
    sorry you missed my point, buying stock is the laziest way to "earn" a living doing something that contributes to society is how to earn something. 
    1) "Work smarter, not harder." — Scrooge McDuck

    2) Are you honestly not aware of what companies would be like if investors weren't allowed?
    There's no longer any "investment" in Apple stock. When someone buys a share of stock someone else had to have sold. Apple gets not one penny of it either way. There's no investment just a change in ownership of a share. 
    edited March 2020 dysamoria
  • Reply 52 of 84
    SoliSoli Posts: 10,038member
    gatorguy said:
    Soli said:
    spice-boy said:
    MacPro said:
    spice-boy said:
    lkrupp said:
    Who gets to do "after hours trading"? Certainly not the individual investor, right? If certain investors get to buy and sell securities over the weekend why is the stock market "closed" on Saturday and Sunday. I don't get this.
    I guess all your "hard earned" money made from owning stock in Apple will be gone soon. Maybe another huge tax break for the 1% would make it right? 
    I suspect many here, like I did, bought AAPL so long ago it isn't that terrible so far.
    sorry you missed my point, buying stock is the laziest way to "earn" a living doing something that contributes to society is how to earn something. 
    1) "Work smarter, not harder." — Scrooge McDuck

    2) Are you honestly not aware of what companies would be like if investors weren't allowed?
    There's no longer any "investment" in Apple stock. When someone buys a share of stock someone else had to have sold. Apple gets not one penny of it either way. There's no investment just a change in ownership of a share. 
    1) It's an investment to the person who is buying the stock.

    2) You wrote, "there is no longer" so I assume you do understand how this "laziest way" that doesn't contribute anything to society would play out if companies like Apple could never have had investors.
    lolliver
  • Reply 53 of 84
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,564member
    Soli said:
    gatorguy said:
    Soli said:
    spice-boy said:
    MacPro said:
    spice-boy said:
    lkrupp said:
    Who gets to do "after hours trading"? Certainly not the individual investor, right? If certain investors get to buy and sell securities over the weekend why is the stock market "closed" on Saturday and Sunday. I don't get this.
    I guess all your "hard earned" money made from owning stock in Apple will be gone soon. Maybe another huge tax break for the 1% would make it right? 
    I suspect many here, like I did, bought AAPL so long ago it isn't that terrible so far.
    sorry you missed my point, buying stock is the laziest way to "earn" a living doing something that contributes to society is how to earn something. 
    1) "Work smarter, not harder." — Scrooge McDuck

    2) Are you honestly not aware of what companies would be like if investors weren't allowed?
    There's no longer any "investment" in Apple stock. When someone buys a share of stock someone else had to have sold. Apple gets not one penny of it either way. There's no investment just a change in ownership of a share. 

    2) You wrote, "there is no longer" so I assume you do understand how this "laziest way" that doesn't contribute anything to society would play out if companies like Apple could never have had investors.
    Yes I do. Early in my business career I did have a handful of investors. Eventually I bought them all out. It's sooo much easier this way. 

    Sidenote: Of the FANGS Apple saw the highest percentage loss today, and all were off at least 5%
    edited March 2020
  • Reply 54 of 84
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Marvin said:
    lkrupp said:
    dysamoria said:
    Hooray for the invisible hand of the irrational gambling system of “public ownership”. Congratulations on always compounding problems. You just keep spreading that chaos, you delightfully magical economic system. Society will continue to worship Wall Street no matter what mess you make.
    And what's your alternative economic system? Government ownership instead of public ownership?
    It just needs regulation rather than an alternative. These kind of irrational trades happen because people can buy/sell whenever they want. If you could only buy/sell in a given timeframe (e.g once per month) in restricted volumes and leveraged trading was banned, the whole market would be much more stable. Trading currency should be banned too. This kind of regulation would value investors and not speculators. But, like with any corrupt system, where there's dirty money, there's dirty money greasing the wheels to keep it just the way it is.
    Im not interested in a stable stock market. That’s not why markets exist. If a person wants stability, buy gold.
  • Reply 55 of 84
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member

    gatorguy said:
    Soli said:
    gatorguy said:
    Soli said:
    spice-boy said:
    MacPro said:
    spice-boy said:
    lkrupp said:
    Who gets to do "after hours trading"? Certainly not the individual investor, right? If certain investors get to buy and sell securities over the weekend why is the stock market "closed" on Saturday and Sunday. I don't get this.
    I guess all your "hard earned" money made from owning stock in Apple will be gone soon. Maybe another huge tax break for the 1% would make it right? 
    I suspect many here, like I did, bought AAPL so long ago it isn't that terrible so far.
    sorry you missed my point, buying stock is the laziest way to "earn" a living doing something that contributes to society is how to earn something. 
    1) "Work smarter, not harder." — Scrooge McDuck

    2) Are you honestly not aware of what companies would be like if investors weren't allowed?
    There's no longer any "investment" in Apple stock. When someone buys a share of stock someone else had to have sold. Apple gets not one penny of it either way. There's no investment just a change in ownership of a share. 

    2) You wrote, "there is no longer" so I assume you do understand how this "laziest way" that doesn't contribute anything to society would play out if companies like Apple could never have had investors.
    Yes I do. Early in my business career I did have a handful of investors. Eventually I bought them all out. It's sooo much easier this way. 

    Sidenote: Of the FANGS Apple saw the highest percentage loss today, and all were off at least 5%
    Cook would be wise to inform investors how Apple stands on making deliveries right now. Information is better than no information.

    My stock buy orders I placed weeks ago still haven’t gone through, so the market hasn’t completely imploded yet, in my opinion.
    edited March 2020
  • Reply 56 of 84
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    No worries here. I still hold the same amount of AAPL shares that I held last month. 


    pscooter63
  • Reply 57 of 84
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Cook would be wise to inform investors how Apple stands on making deliveries right now. Information is better than no information.

    I ordered a pair of engraved airpods pro about a month ago and I noticed that my card was just charged a few days ago, so they will be arriving soon. I assume that they come from China.
  • Reply 58 of 84
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member
    Soli said:
    spice-boy said:
    MacPro said:
    spice-boy said:
    lkrupp said:
    Who gets to do "after hours trading"? Certainly not the individual investor, right? If certain investors get to buy and sell securities over the weekend why is the stock market "closed" on Saturday and Sunday. I don't get this.
    I guess all your "hard earned" money made from owning stock in Apple will be gone soon. Maybe another huge tax break for the 1% would make it right? 
    I suspect many here, like I did, bought AAPL so long ago it isn't that terrible so far.
    sorry you missed my point, buying stock is the laziest way to "earn" a living doing something that contributes to society is how to earn something. 
    1) "Work smarter, not harder." — Scrooge McDuck

    2) Are you honestly not aware of what companies would be like if investors weren't allowed?
    Lazy......... nothing but excuses. Try creating something, take a real risks, you won't be vulnerable to any corporate missteps and those jerks on Wall Street. 
    dysamoria
  • Reply 59 of 84
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    asdasd said:
    Wgkrueger said:
    lkrupp said:
    spice-boy said:

    lkrupp said:
    Who gets to do "after hours trading"? Certainly not the individual investor, right? If certain investors get to buy and sell securities over the weekend why is the stock market "closed" on Saturday and Sunday. I don't get this.
    I guess all your "hard earned" money made from owning stock in Apple will be gone soon. Maybe another huge tax break for the 1% would make it right? 
    It's times like these when the communists crawl out of the woodwork promising a chicken in every pot even though they know they can't deliver on that promise. "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work" is an old Russian saying. Time to send the rich to reeducation camps and confiscate their wealth. Oh wait, that's Bernie's plan. My bad.
    He’s a socialist not a communist. Get your FUD right. 
    He’s really more of a Marxist.
    He is nothing like a Marxist, or anywhere close to a Marxist.  For instance he isnt trying to seize all the means of production, or instigate a worker's revolution. A few tweaks to medicare, some new taxes does not a marxist make. 
    Guess you’re not familiar with his platform or his tweets?

    Just today he insisted that a Coronavirus treatment should be “free”. How does that work?

    https://twitter.com/berniesanders/status/1236748536475275266?s=21
    Dark ages thinking again, free as in chicken pox vaccination when you were a kid growing up, guess you can't remember that far back. You guys are nuts
    dysamoriaCarnage
  • Reply 60 of 84
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,450member

    Soli said:
    lkrupp said:
    MisterKit said:
    If the Apple stock price gets low enough Apple can just buy themself out and the game will be over.
    Even with the current slaughter AAPL is still worth $1.18T, not exactly a candidate for going private.
    Nothing about Apple's current valuation or their structure makes ever going private a feasible option.
    The Titanic is sinking and these guys can't stop talking about money, pathetic.
    dysamoria
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