Apple Retail stores will look very different in the US when they reopen

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  • Reply 81 of 91
    svanstromsvanstrom Posts: 702member
    svanstrom said:
    Could u explain Locking down Cities for months and sending all data to WHO right away as cover up? 
    Let's start with this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382

    (That'd be the part about the security bureau forcing him to confessing to "lying" to cause panic.)
    Let me quote you a line from the report. "It was 10 days later - on 20 January - that China declared the outbreak an emergency.”
    Now compare 20 Jan to what the rest of the world had been doing and what US had been doing. 
    Whether or not China did a cover up is a separate issue, though; it doesn't change based on whatever anyone else did. Either they did it, or they didn't do it; there's no version of that where what China did changes based on what other countries did at a later date. No time machines where another country goes back in time and make China do something in the past.

    Also, this was just one example of voices being silenced in China regarding the Wuhan virus.
  • Reply 82 of 91
    razorpitrazorpit Posts: 1,796member
    apple ][ said:

    In other countries like China and S. Korea they did the right things, brought the virus under control quickly and are getting their economy and their lives back to normal.   Here we have no signs of relief -- just more economic destruction and more dying everyday.

    Yeah, China lol. They've certainly been doing the right things. They've been lying and covering up since the very beginning. They're also complicit in helping to spread the virus, because of their misinformation and cover ups. They've also been hoarding medical supplies while they were pretending that the virus was not a big deal. They've also massively been lying about their death counts.

    Keep praising China, lol.
    He can’t help himself. The TDS pandemic has taken him.
  • Reply 83 of 91
    AppleZuluAppleZulu Posts: 2,181member
    razorpit said:
    apple ][ said:
    You will think very differently about these rules when someone(s) around had died due to Covid. I am in Asia and I heard more in US had died because of Covid19 than Sep 11
    That's just media fear mongering and a pretty useless comparison in my opinion.

    More than sept 11?  Another comparison that I've seen the garbage media make is D-Day, lol.

    In 2017 in the USA:

    Heart Disease  647,457  - - - OMG that's 215 Sept 11s every single year, and just from heart disease!  :#

    Cancer  599,108 - - - OMG that's 199 Sept 11s every single year! :#

    Accidents 169,936 - - - OMG, that's 56 Sept 11s every single year! People should be more careful so that they don't get into accidents. Maybe we should shut down society completely and save at least 170,000 lives this year :#

    The plain old regular Flu and pneumonia  55,672 - - - OMG, that's like 18 Sept 11s every single year!   If everybody were confined to their homes 24-7-365 and never went outside, nobody would catch the Flu anymore and we wouldn't have tens of thousands dying from the Flu each year.  :#

    I don't see anybody getting all hysterical about those deaths. 

    It's important to keep things in perspective. So far, all of the death totals for the virus are far, far lower than many of the insane, delusional and clueless predictions that have come from a variety of sources.

    I'd say we're doing pretty good. 



    Oh!  So you actually believe the nonsense coming from Trump.   Don't you realize he cares only about his re-election -- and could care less about your life?
    Utter nonsense. You are letting the internet and tv rot your brain. All politicians want to be re-elected. And those who can’t be will do anything to help the next chosen one. Never got a chance to respond to one of your earlier comments but Flynn says hello.
    'All politicians are bad' is a cheap, weak rhetorical dodge. The current president is plagued by debilitating narcissistic personality disorder. Most politicians are self-interested. The current President is mentally incapable of empathy. There's a difference. He can't conceive of anything that is not filtered through his immediate perceptions of his own self-interest. It's not a partisan issue. It's a leadership vacuum. Health experts in this administration must dance around the President's disorder, trying to retain some level of influence while not getting fired for pointing out that disinfectants and UV light can't be used internally to combat a virus. So without solid, consistent guidance from the top, governors, mayors and companies like Apple are forced to simultaneously compete for resources and collaborate as best they can, while setting their own rules of operation. The resulting inconsistencies from place to place serve as grist for the know-nothings who see inconsistency not as the lack of leadership from the top that it is, but as "evidence" that the whole thing is some kind of anti-Trumpian ploy.
  • Reply 84 of 91
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    apple ][ said:

    In other countries like China and S. Korea they did the right things, brought the virus under control quickly and are getting their economy and their lives back to normal.   Here we have no signs of relief -- just more economic destruction and more dying everyday.

    Yeah, China lol. They've certainly been doing the right things. They've been lying and covering up since the very beginning. They're also complicit in helping to spread the virus, because of their misinformation and cover ups. They've also been hoarding medical supplies while they were pretending that the virus was not a big deal. They've also massively been lying about their death counts.

    Keep praising China, lol.

    Only if you believe Trump.   But how many lies has he told?   I lost count at 15,000.

    Meanwhile he needs a scapegoat to deflect blame from his negligence, incompetence and corruption that, so far, has killed over 75,000 Americans.
    ...  Meanwhile China had minimal casualties (at least in comparison to the U.S.) and is back up and running.   They may be already working on my iPhone 12.
  • Reply 85 of 91
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    svanstrom said:
    Could u explain Locking down Cities for months and sending all data to WHO right away as cover up? 
    Let's start with this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51364382

    (That'd be the part about the security bureau forcing him to confessing to "lying" to cause panic.)
    Let me quote you a line from the report. "It was 10 days later - on 20 January - that China declared the outbreak an emergency.”
    Now compare 20 Jan to what the rest of the world had been doing and what US had been doing. 

    One diff I can say is, the rest of the world is treating it as  an global problem( an Alien invasion if u would), while Trump see this as a political one. 


    Yeh, the right wing media is doing what they usually do:  take a fact out of context, distort it and exaggerate in order to support their agenda.
    In this case, the doctor basically yelled "FIRE!" in a crowded theater -- which will get you arrested in any country in the world -- until they find out that there really was a fire.   In this case, right wing media is ignoring the fact that this was a never before seen pathogen and nobody understood if or saw it as dangerous -- they just saw a nut trying to cause a panic.   the analogy here is:   even after China and the WHO warned that this could be a pandemic the U.S. president called it a "Democratic Hoax"!  But, that reality doesn't help the right wing media defend Trump from charges of negligence, incompetence and corruption.
  • Reply 86 of 91
    kimberlykimberly Posts: 434member
    I'm not sure Americans can stand 2 meters apart.  All the confusing metric stuff and all.  Hopefully they'll translate that into English for us.

    "Please stand 6.6 feet apart."  But then people will complain about those extra 6.75"  /s
    Don't you mean...

    Hopefully they'll translate that into American for us.
    Over here in the UK, we went metric for most measurements including small distances around 1970. The odd exception is made for things like miles and mph rather than kilometres and kph.


    1974 (getting up towards 50 years ago) in Australia for metric and that includes km and kph.  5280 feet in a mile, 12 inches in a foot ... how does anyone convert that except walking into an Apple store and buying a MacBook Pro (without touching hard surfaces) :D
    lolliverGeorgeBMac
  • Reply 87 of 91
    lolliverlolliver Posts: 497member
    Precautions include temperature checking both employees and customers, holding socially distanced daily briefings for staffers, and providing and encouraging the use of hand sanitizer by customers. Apple Stores will also be instructed to limit the number of people allowed inside of them, forming lines with shoppers at least two meters apart.

    I'm not sure Americans can stand 2 meters apart.  All the confusing metric stuff and all.  Hopefully they'll translate that into English for us.

    "Please stand 6.6 feet apart."  But then people will complain about those extra 6.75"  /s
    English is a language, not a system for measurement. The terms used for the metric system are all English words. 

    However I do find it surprising that in the US they are not using the older Imperial/US Customary Measurement System for the Covid advise on social distancing.  Telling Americans to stand 2 meters apart when that is not a common measure of distance there doesn't make any sense. 
  • Reply 88 of 91
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    lolliver said:
    Precautions include temperature checking both employees and customers, holding socially distanced daily briefings for staffers, and providing and encouraging the use of hand sanitizer by customers. Apple Stores will also be instructed to limit the number of people allowed inside of them, forming lines with shoppers at least two meters apart.

    I'm not sure Americans can stand 2 meters apart.  All the confusing metric stuff and all.  Hopefully they'll translate that into English for us.

    "Please stand 6.6 feet apart."  But then people will complain about those extra 6.75"  /s
    English is a language, not a system for measurement. The terms used for the metric system are all English words. 

    However I do find it surprising that in the US they are not using the older Imperial/US Customary Measurement System for the Covid advise on social distancing.  Telling Americans to stand 2 meters apart when that is not a common measure of distance there doesn't make any sense. 

    The U.S. medical system has fully converted to the metric system*.   Typically they are dealing in milligrams and milliliters, but meters is a natural extension for them.

    * when dispensing potentially deadly medications, converting from tablespoons to fractions of teaspoons or ounces can be, well, deadly.  It's complicated enough already dispensing medications based on grams per kilogram per hour -- especially for pediatrics where a small error can mean the death of a child.  It's why, as a nurse, I was trained to double check the physician before I dispensed any medication.
  • Reply 89 of 91
    davgregdavgreg Posts: 1,046member
    The hand sanitizer thing is mostly theater, like taking your shoes off at the airport. The temperature screening is also not of great value and most people do not have a 98.6 degree temperature baseline. The social distancing thing is more of a meh thing- the airborne behavior of this virus is still just being understood. In a healthcare environment we are using a minimum of 6 complete air exchanges after sanitizing before returning an exam room to service and that is with hospital grade HVAC. Something tells me a retail store is not very likely to have hospital grade air scrubbing or that level of air exchange.

    It will be interesting. The norm at the Apple Stores I have been in are very crowded, not very well organized and the entry door constantly flapping.
  • Reply 90 of 91
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    davgreg said:
    The hand sanitizer thing is mostly theater, like taking your shoes off at the airport. The temperature screening is also not of great value and most people do not have a 98.6 degree temperature baseline. The social distancing thing is more of a meh thing- the airborne behavior of this virus is still just being understood. In a healthcare environment we are using a minimum of 6 complete air exchanges after sanitizing before returning an exam room to service and that is with hospital grade HVAC. Something tells me a retail store is not very likely to have hospital grade air scrubbing or that level of air exchange.

    It will be interesting. The norm at the Apple Stores I have been in are very crowded, not very well organized and the entry door constantly flapping.

    Oh, I get it:   if its not 100% effective then it is worthless and you are to do nothing.   Got it.
  • Reply 91 of 91
    aaarrrggghaaarrrgggh Posts: 1,609member
    Any word on when more stores are going to open, specifically Hawaii?  They have been modifying the employee area and dropped the product displays down already.  I need a repair on my ipad, and all other service options with Apple are miserable...
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