der Kopf I probably hate metal even more than you and I just watched Terminator 1 and 2 for the first time. Seriously. I can't wait for T3. But if you hate Metal and it's not a fake app like iTunes, Metallifizer from Unsanity gets rid of it. And we know you won't ever actually leave Apple.
There is a quirk in Metal that I hate...how the x/--/+ look recessed into the metal. The close/minimize/max buttons should either be improved, or made metal. I think that a very nice feature would be having a metal/aqua pref in sysprefs, kind of like the Blue/Graphite option we currently have. Just curious...who here uses Graphite?
For those worrying about Panther, the next major release of Mac OS X (notice we didn't call it 10.3? maybe it will be lableled 10.3, maybe it won't. The grapevine is abuzz with questions on this point right now.) being converted to an entirely Brushed Metal interface, ala Safari/iTunes/QuickTime Player/iPhoto et cetera....
You can stop worrying now. Apple isn't planning such dramatic changes to the OS X interface for quite a while to come. Aqua is the system look-and-feel; Brushed Metal is intended to be the signature of the company's non-system applications. One thing that may have sparked this rumor, however, is a version of Terminal.app included with developmental builds of Panther was reportedly seen skinned with a Brushed Metal interface and translucent terminal window contents.
Does that mean that the much rumored iWorks office applications will also sport the metal interface? I hope not.
I suddenly remembered that Keynote does not have the metal interface but a nice aqua one. Maybe they are limiting to the metal interface to the free/semi free applications included with osX?
They're limiting the metal to whatever they deem to be a digital hub app. Not very helpful guidelines on this though. People have been saying for a while that Apple needs to get more clear and consistent with its metal guideline.
There is a quirk in Metal that I hate...how the x/--/+ look recessed into the metal. The close/minimize/max buttons should either be improved, or made metal.
Why? Apple is slowly moving all their metal GUI elements to this recessed glass look. I don't think it'll change at this point since Safari has the recessed glass buttons, iMovie 3, iDVD 3...I wouldn't be surprised if the next iCal, Address Book, iTunes, iPhoto updated the looks to more closely match this new direction Apple is going in. If this doesn't happen, it would indicate Apple doesn't know what the hell they want 'cuz they've been changing the frickin' look way too often now.
As it stands now Apple's put out all sorts of brushed-metal versions and not a whole lot of these apps look consistent with each other. I'm hoping this will change soon as the Carbon apps move to 10.2+ Cocoa.
I prefer Aqua, especially for the system, but having apps as metal is fine with me. I still think they should make them compatible and make it an option.
I prefer Aqua, especially for the system, but having apps as metal is fine with me. I still think they should make them compatible and make it an option.
Nasty...I now realize there are people in this world that love uglyness.
I think the system-wide metal would be ok, if it was one of several choices you could choose for your system-wide appearance.
For example, if you could choose between "default", "metal", "pinstripe", and "black" or whatever.
The mail app shown above looked good, IMO. The non-active icons were quite obviously non-selectable which I thought was nice, it appeared to support the standard OS X toolbar instead of the hack they are using on Safari, and there was no transparency which probably improves speed a bit. The resize corner was also larger than normal.
However, I am skeptical of it, since there no real way to tell if it's 10.3, or just a cheap mock up.
More From MOSR: "Panther will not be moving to an entirely Brushed Metal interface, but it will indeed introduce some significant appearance updates....and, in what may prove to be the basis for this rumor, use of the Brushed Metal interface in Apple's applications and utilities is set to significantly increase with the advent of Panther. In early builds, apps including Terminal, Console, Process Viewer, Network Utility, and even Mail have been seen with Brushed Metal window schemes. There is no firm reason to believe that all or even any of these modifications will make it to the final release, but we do see a clear trend."
I really don't care for Brushed Metal; it's clearly inferior to Aqua. If Apple decides to metalize its system applications, it will definitely detract from the usability of the OS. Moreover, it will set a dangerous trend of capricious interface changes, and it will surely confuse developers. I hope Apple's UI team still has some sense left.
More From MOSR: "Panther will not be moving to an entirely Brushed Metal interface, but it will indeed introduce some significant appearance updates....and, in what may prove to be the basis for this rumor, use of the Brushed Metal interface in Apple's applications and utilities is set to significantly increase with the advent of Panther. In early builds, apps including Terminal, Console, Process Viewer, Network Utility, and even Mail have been seen with Brushed Metal window schemes. There is no firm reason to believe that all or even any of these modifications will make it to the final release, but we do see a clear trend."
I really don't care for Brushed Metal; it's clearly inferior to Aqua. If Apple decides to metalize its system applications, it will definitely detract from the usability of the OS. Moreover, it will set a dangerous trend of capricious interface changes, and it will surely confuse developers. I hope Apple's UI team still has some sense left.
How about if it's just an option? I'm really getting tired of just aqua and would like an option.
MACOSRUMORS is a bunch of fuxored idiots last time 10.2 was coming out they started that it won't be called 10.2 crap because apple just called it by codename. The next VERSION will be called 10.3 no matter what those idiots at MOSR would have you believe. There is only a limited number of version rollouts they can do with this so they plan to use every version number.
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For those worrying about Panther, the next major release of Mac OS X (notice we didn't call it 10.3? maybe it will be lableled 10.3, maybe it won't. The grapevine is abuzz with questions on this point right now.) being converted to an entirely Brushed Metal interface, ala Safari/iTunes/QuickTime Player/iPhoto et cetera....
You can stop worrying now. Apple isn't planning such dramatic changes to the OS X interface for quite a while to come. Aqua is the system look-and-feel; Brushed Metal is intended to be the signature of the company's non-system applications. One thing that may have sparked this rumor, however, is a version of Terminal.app included with developmental builds of Panther was reportedly seen skinned with a Brushed Metal interface and translucent terminal window contents.
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Brushed Metal is intended to be the signature of the company's non-system applications.
Does that mean that the much rumored iWorks office applications will also sport the metal interface? I hope not.
Originally posted by NETROMac
Does that mean that the much rumored iWorks office applications will also sport the metal interface? I hope not.
I suddenly remembered that Keynote does not have the metal interface but a nice aqua one. Maybe they are limiting to the metal interface to the free/semi free applications included with osX?
Sorry about replying to my own post
Originally posted by Placebo
...Just curious...who here uses Graphite?
I use Graphite.
I really hope apple doesn't switch everything to metal, Aqua looks so much better (graphite or blue)
Originally posted by Placebo
There is a quirk in Metal that I hate...how the x/--/+ look recessed into the metal.
Why? Apple is slowly moving all their metal GUI elements to this recessed glass look. I don't think it'll change at this point since Safari has the recessed glass buttons, iMovie 3, iDVD 3...I wouldn't be surprised if the next iCal, Address Book, iTunes, iPhoto updated the looks to more closely match this new direction Apple is going in. If this doesn't happen, it would indicate Apple doesn't know what the hell they want 'cuz they've been changing the frickin' look way too often now.
As it stands now Apple's put out all sorts of brushed-metal versions and not a whole lot of these apps look consistent with each other. I'm hoping this will change soon as the Carbon apps move to 10.2+ Cocoa.
Originally posted by wwwork
I like the metal interface! It is my preference.
So you would rater have the metal interface instead of aqua in the entire OS? It's ok in the iApps but come on. It's not that good.
http://24.224.168.199/Graphics/Desktops/desktop2.jpg
I prefer Aqua, especially for the system, but having apps as metal is fine with me. I still think they should make them compatible and make it an option.
Originally posted by Code Master
Back before Aqua, I used to have a Kaliedosccope scheme for the QT brushed metal look and I liked it:
http://24.224.168.199/Graphics/Desktops/desktop2.jpg
I prefer Aqua, especially for the system, but having apps as metal is fine with me. I still think they should make them compatible and make it an option.
Nasty...I now realize there are people in this world that love uglyness.
For example, if you could choose between "default", "metal", "pinstripe", and "black" or whatever.
The mail app shown above looked good, IMO. The non-active icons were quite obviously non-selectable which I thought was nice, it appeared to support the standard OS X toolbar instead of the hack they are using on Safari, and there was no transparency which probably improves speed a bit. The resize corner was also larger than normal.
However, I am skeptical of it, since there no real way to tell if it's 10.3, or just a cheap mock up.
I really don't care for Brushed Metal; it's clearly inferior to Aqua. If Apple decides to metalize its system applications, it will definitely detract from the usability of the OS. Moreover, it will set a dangerous trend of capricious interface changes, and it will surely confuse developers. I hope Apple's UI team still has some sense left.
Originally posted by Big Mac
More From MOSR: "Panther will not be moving to an entirely Brushed Metal interface, but it will indeed introduce some significant appearance updates....and, in what may prove to be the basis for this rumor, use of the Brushed Metal interface in Apple's applications and utilities is set to significantly increase with the advent of Panther. In early builds, apps including Terminal, Console, Process Viewer, Network Utility, and even Mail have been seen with Brushed Metal window schemes. There is no firm reason to believe that all or even any of these modifications will make it to the final release, but we do see a clear trend."
I really don't care for Brushed Metal; it's clearly inferior to Aqua. If Apple decides to metalize its system applications, it will definitely detract from the usability of the OS. Moreover, it will set a dangerous trend of capricious interface changes, and it will surely confuse developers. I hope Apple's UI team still has some sense left.
How about if it's just an option? I'm really getting tired of just aqua and would like an option.
Originally posted by NETROMac
So you would rater have the metal interface instead of aqua in the entire OS? It's ok in the iApps but come on. It's not that good.
I did not say I wanted the metal interface in the entire OS.