Work continues on Wuhan Apple Store for September opening

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Apple will soon start work on a new Apple Store location in China, with the first outlet in Wuhan to be set in the Wuhan International Plaza.




Greater China is a major market for Apple, one that saw revenue growth of nearly 60% in the Q3 2021 results. To aid in future growth in the region, Apple is readying a store for construction.

An Apple Store in Wuhan International Plaza's interior decoration project has been reviewed and approved by the Hubei Provincial Government Service Network, according to Patently Apple. The store, which will occupy 9,500 square feet of space, will be set on the second floor of the Wuhan International Plaza Shopping Center.

It is anticipated that the store will be open in September 2021, potentially in time to coincide with the launch of the "iPhone 13" and other products.

So far, Apple has opened 42 outlets in Mainland China across 21 cities. Shanghai has the most with seven outlets, followed by Beijing with 5.

Apple CEO Tim Cook said Q3 was an "incredibly strong quarter" for Greater China revenue, setting a June revenue record in the process with $14.76 billion. "We had a particularly strong response to the 12 Pro and the 12 Pro Max," he added, though also pointed out June quarter records were also set in the region for Mac, Services, and Wearables, Home, and Accessories.

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  • Reply 1 of 79
    tommikeletommikele Posts: 599member
    Will they be selling Covid v2,3,4 ...?
  • Reply 2 of 79
    red oakred oak Posts: 1,089member
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 

    edited August 2021
  • Reply 3 of 79
    viclauyycviclauyyc Posts: 849member
    At least Apple will have a early warning system in place for the next round. 
  • Reply 4 of 79
    KuyangkohKuyangkoh Posts: 838member
    red oak said:
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 

    Cohorts iphone13 max
  • Reply 5 of 79
    JFC_PAJFC_PA Posts: 932member
    SARS-CoV2 wasn’t “man made” anywhere. So there’s that. The genetic sequence has been done in multiple labs: it’s a known wild virus. 

    A lab accident? Maybe, they happen. The last cases of smallpox were from a Great Britain lab accident. But that doesn’t require any sort of boycott. 

    Stores in towns with big research universities such as Wuhan  is a huge nobrainer. 
    edited August 2021 h4y3sGeorgeBMac
  • Reply 6 of 79
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    tommikele said:
    Will they be selling Covid v2,3,4 ...?

    Nah!  China had that under control a year and a half ago.  Occasionally they get an outbreak, but they shut it down quickly and its gone.  Plus, they've given more vaccinations than any other country in the world.
  • Reply 7 of 79
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    red oak said:
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 


    What if it comes out that the virus came from the U.S.?  Would you say one word?  No, you won't.  And it would be so hypocritical.
  • Reply 8 of 79
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    viclauyyc said:
    At least Apple will have a early warning system in place for the next round. 

    Nah, they already have stores in Florida.
  • Reply 9 of 79
    flydogflydog Posts: 1,124member
    red oak said:
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 

    The virus was not "man made." That has been debunked time and time again. That does not mean that the virus was not being researched in a lab in China, but given your lack of an education, knowledge of the subject, and reasoning skills, that distinction is likely lost on you. 

    And why would Apple (or any business for that matter) say anything if it does turn out that China was experimenting with this virus? I'm not aware of Apple having a policy against doing business in countries that research viruses, and many countries, including the US, store viruses for research. 

    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 10 of 79
    waveparticlewaveparticle Posts: 1,497member
    The virus is NOT leaked from the Wuhan lab. The chief scientist in the lab has records of all viruses in the lab. After covid-19 broke out, she compared it to all the viruses in the lab and found no match. 
    GeorgeBMac
  • Reply 11 of 79
    boltsfan17boltsfan17 Posts: 2,294member
    The virus is NOT leaked from the Wuhan lab. The chief scientist in the lab has records of all viruses in the lab. After covid-19 broke out, she compared it to all the viruses in the lab and found no match. 
    And you believe that? There is a ton of circumstantial evidence that points to this leaking from the lab in Wuhan. China hasn't been very transparent with anyone trying to research the origins of the virus. The last thing I would do is believe a Chinese government scientist. Look up the gain-of-function research experiments they were doing in the Wuhan lab with bat coronaviruses. The original theory of this starting in the wet market in Wuhan has already turned out to be wrong. All the animals tested in the Wuhan market came back negative for covid. Until more evidence surfaces to say otherwise, everything points to covid leaking from the Wuhan lab. 
    tmay
  • Reply 12 of 79
    GeorgeBMacGeorgeBMac Posts: 11,421member
    The virus is NOT leaked from the Wuhan lab. The chief scientist in the lab has records of all viruses in the lab. After covid-19 broke out, she compared it to all the viruses in the lab and found no match. 
    And you believe that? There is a ton of circumstantial evidence that points to this leaking from the lab in Wuhan. China hasn't been very transparent with anyone trying to research the origins of the virus. The last thing I would do is believe a Chinese government scientist. Look up the gain-of-function research experiments they were doing in the Wuhan lab with bat coronaviruses. The original theory of this starting in the wet market in Wuhan has already turned out to be wrong. All the animals tested in the Wuhan market came back negative for covid. Until more evidence surfaces to say otherwise, everything points to covid leaking from the Wuhan lab. 

    No, there is no evidence that it originated in the Wuhan lab.  That evidence consists of circumstantial speculation that it COULD HAVE, not that it did.  To the purveyors of anti-China propaganda, it is up to China to prove that it didn't simply because they have already pronounced China guilty by means of politicized rhetoric.

    Like wise there is now a petition with 25 million signatures to look at Ft Detrick because it COULD HAVE originated there just as easily.
    Should we have to prove that it didn't -- because somebody speculated that it did?  Perhaps a WHO inspection and investigation?

    And, why would you believe right wing propagandists who we KNOW are prolific liars and dealers in disinformation over the WHO and the Chinese government?  Oh yeh, we believe Q over facts, evidence and science.

    edited August 2021
  • Reply 13 of 79
    entropysentropys Posts: 4,168member
    Ok. Well, in the meantime the people of Wuhan get an Apple Store.
  • Reply 14 of 79
    waveparticlewaveparticle Posts: 1,497member
    entropys said:
    Ok. Well, in the meantime the people of Wuhan get an Apple Store.
    Yes, I  believe in Apple more than anybody else.  :)
  • Reply 15 of 79
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,341member
    red oak said:
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 


    What if it comes out that the virus came from the U.S.?  Would you say one word?  No, you won't.  And it would be so hypocritical.
    There is zero evidence that the SARS-COVID 19 virus originated in the U.S.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00502-4

    Was the virus spreading in people outside China before December 2019?

    Answering this question is also key to establishing the timeline of the first COVID-19 cases. Previously, researchers in Europe have reported1,2,3 finding antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 in samples taken at blood banks from November 2019 onwards.

    Ben Embarek says this doesn’t necessarily suggest the virus originated in Europe, but supports the idea that it was spreading in Wuhan before the first known cases. “Wuhan at that time was a very well-connected international city with direct flights to the entire planet on a daily basis. So if it was circulating in Wuhan, it could easily have been brought to other parts of the world through travellers, and circulating again, undetected, in different regions,” he says.

    Still, he recommends that the blood samples from Europe be retested to confirm that they indicate cases of COVID-19. Some of them, from Italy and France, are already being reanalysed, he says.


    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

    As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts.
    Needless to say, China would resort to official propaganda blaming the Ft. Detrick Laboratory in the U.S., rather than allow the World to investigate the origin of SARS-COVID 19.


    edited August 2021
  • Reply 16 of 79
    waveparticlewaveparticle Posts: 1,497member
    tmay said:
    red oak said:
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 


    What if it comes out that the virus came from the U.S.?  Would you say one word?  No, you won't.  And it would be so hypocritical.
    There is zero evidence that the SARS-COVID 19 virus originated in the U.S.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00502-4

    Was the virus spreading in people outside China before December 2019?

    Answering this question is also key to establishing the timeline of the first COVID-19 cases. Previously, researchers in Europe have reported1,2,3 finding antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 in samples taken at blood banks from November 2019 onwards.

    Ben Embarek says this doesn’t necessarily suggest the virus originated in Europe, but supports the idea that it was spreading in Wuhan before the first known cases. “Wuhan at that time was a very well-connected international city with direct flights to the entire planet on a daily basis. So if it was circulating in Wuhan, it could easily have been brought to other parts of the world through travellers, and circulating again, undetected, in different regions,” he says.

    Still, he recommends that the blood samples from Europe be retested to confirm that they indicate cases of COVID-19. Some of them, from Italy and France, are already being reanalysed, he says.


    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

    As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts.
    Needless to say, China would resort to official propaganda blaming the Ft. Detrick Laboratory in the U.S., rather than allow the World to investigate the origin of SARS-COVID 19.


    Gain of function is pioneered in the western world. In other words, western scientists have been doing this kind of experiment all the time. Covid-19 may not be originated from Ft. Derrick Laboratory. But this lab must be doing similar experiment. There was an accident in the lab early in 2019. Why US government does not allow inspection in the lab? The argument for rein spection of the Wuhan lab is to prevent another pandemic in the future. I think this argument should be applied to all the virus labs in the world. Don't you agree? 
    edited August 2021
  • Reply 17 of 79
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,341member
    tmay said:
    red oak said:
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 


    What if it comes out that the virus came from the U.S.?  Would you say one word?  No, you won't.  And it would be so hypocritical.
    There is zero evidence that the SARS-COVID 19 virus originated in the U.S.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00502-4

    Was the virus spreading in people outside China before December 2019?

    Answering this question is also key to establishing the timeline of the first COVID-19 cases. Previously, researchers in Europe have reported1,2,3 finding antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 in samples taken at blood banks from November 2019 onwards.

    Ben Embarek says this doesn’t necessarily suggest the virus originated in Europe, but supports the idea that it was spreading in Wuhan before the first known cases. “Wuhan at that time was a very well-connected international city with direct flights to the entire planet on a daily basis. So if it was circulating in Wuhan, it could easily have been brought to other parts of the world through travellers, and circulating again, undetected, in different regions,” he says.

    Still, he recommends that the blood samples from Europe be retested to confirm that they indicate cases of COVID-19. Some of them, from Italy and France, are already being reanalysed, he says.


    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

    As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts.
    Needless to say, China would resort to official propaganda blaming the Ft. Detrick Laboratory in the U.S., rather than allow the World to investigate the origin of SARS-COVID 19.


    Gain of function is pioneered in the western world. In other words, western scientists have been doing this kind of experiment all the time. Covid-19 may not be originated from it. But this lab must be doing similar experiment. There was an accident in the lab early in 2019. Why US government does not allow inspection in the lab? The argument for rein spection of the Wuhan lab is to prevent another pandemic in the future. I think this argument should be applied to all the virus labs in the world. Don't you agree? 
    Actually, the argument today is "what is the origin of SARS-COVID 19", and why won't the PRC allow an independent investigation to determine that origin? 

    As for you PRC propaganda wrt to Ft Detrick;

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html

    In 2019, there wasn't "sufficient systems in place to decontaminate waste water", but there was no accident.

    The PRC is attempting to cast the U.S. as the origin of the SARS-COVID 19. That propaganda works in China, but it isn't working for the rest of the world.

    How's life in the PRC today?




    edited August 2021
  • Reply 18 of 79
    waveparticlewaveparticle Posts: 1,497member
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    red oak said:
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 


    What if it comes out that the virus came from the U.S.?  Would you say one word?  No, you won't.  And it would be so hypocritical.
    There is zero evidence that the SARS-COVID 19 virus originated in the U.S.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00502-4

    Was the virus spreading in people outside China before December 2019?

    Answering this question is also key to establishing the timeline of the first COVID-19 cases. Previously, researchers in Europe have reported1,2,3 finding antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 in samples taken at blood banks from November 2019 onwards.

    Ben Embarek says this doesn’t necessarily suggest the virus originated in Europe, but supports the idea that it was spreading in Wuhan before the first known cases. “Wuhan at that time was a very well-connected international city with direct flights to the entire planet on a daily basis. So if it was circulating in Wuhan, it could easily have been brought to other parts of the world through travellers, and circulating again, undetected, in different regions,” he says.

    Still, he recommends that the blood samples from Europe be retested to confirm that they indicate cases of COVID-19. Some of them, from Italy and France, are already being reanalysed, he says.


    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

    As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts.
    Needless to say, China would resort to official propaganda blaming the Ft. Detrick Laboratory in the U.S., rather than allow the World to investigate the origin of SARS-COVID 19.


    Gain of function is pioneered in the western world. In other words, western scientists have been doing this kind of experiment all the time. Covid-19 may not be originated from it. But this lab must be doing similar experiment. There was an accident in the lab early in 2019. Why US government does not allow inspection in the lab? The argument for rein spection of the Wuhan lab is to prevent another pandemic in the future. I think this argument should be applied to all the virus labs in the world. Don't you agree? 
    Actually, the argument today is "what is the origin of SARS-COVID 19", and why won't the PRC allow an independent investigation to determine that origin? 

    As for you PRC propaganda wrt to Ft Detrick;

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html

    In 2019, there wasn't "sufficient systems in place to decontaminate waste water", but there was no accident.

    The PRC is attempting to cast the U.S. as the origin of the SARS-COVID 19. That propaganda works in China, but it isn't working for the rest of the world.

    How's life in the PRC today?




    WHO has investigated twice in China. Why China would not allow unobstructed investigation? Because the notorious scandal engaged by the western world in the WMD in Iraq. UN searched for WMD for several years and found nothing. Then someone alleged it maybe inside the palace. What a joke! But there are people like you believe it. After US invasion of Iraq, they searched unabstructively and still found nothin. So the western world is engaged in lying. No one apologized for the lies. And hundred of thousands of Iraqis died. Politics is dirty. Similar thing is happening in the Jan 6. investigation. Why Republicans would not allow unobstructed investigation? For the same reason.
    Ft. Derrick Lab is a bioweapon lab. What kind of weapons it is doing? It is a national security secret. This is the single reason US government would not allow any foreign organization to see inside. All the personnel working inside need top security clearance. Wuhan virology lab is totally different. It is very open. The scientists publish their work in world journals. Western scientists have been working there all the time. Why do you continue to believe in western anti-China people especially the Republicans disregarding these truths? George is very right about you. You have no common sense of right and wrong.
    edited August 2021
  • Reply 19 of 79
    tmaytmay Posts: 6,341member
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    red oak said:
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 


    What if it comes out that the virus came from the U.S.?  Would you say one word?  No, you won't.  And it would be so hypocritical.
    There is zero evidence that the SARS-COVID 19 virus originated in the U.S.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00502-4

    Was the virus spreading in people outside China before December 2019?

    Answering this question is also key to establishing the timeline of the first COVID-19 cases. Previously, researchers in Europe have reported1,2,3 finding antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 in samples taken at blood banks from November 2019 onwards.

    Ben Embarek says this doesn’t necessarily suggest the virus originated in Europe, but supports the idea that it was spreading in Wuhan before the first known cases. “Wuhan at that time was a very well-connected international city with direct flights to the entire planet on a daily basis. So if it was circulating in Wuhan, it could easily have been brought to other parts of the world through travellers, and circulating again, undetected, in different regions,” he says.

    Still, he recommends that the blood samples from Europe be retested to confirm that they indicate cases of COVID-19. Some of them, from Italy and France, are already being reanalysed, he says.


    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

    As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts.
    Needless to say, China would resort to official propaganda blaming the Ft. Detrick Laboratory in the U.S., rather than allow the World to investigate the origin of SARS-COVID 19.


    Gain of function is pioneered in the western world. In other words, western scientists have been doing this kind of experiment all the time. Covid-19 may not be originated from it. But this lab must be doing similar experiment. There was an accident in the lab early in 2019. Why US government does not allow inspection in the lab? The argument for rein spection of the Wuhan lab is to prevent another pandemic in the future. I think this argument should be applied to all the virus labs in the world. Don't you agree? 
    Actually, the argument today is "what is the origin of SARS-COVID 19", and why won't the PRC allow an independent investigation to determine that origin? 

    As for you PRC propaganda wrt to Ft Detrick;

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html

    In 2019, there wasn't "sufficient systems in place to decontaminate waste water", but there was no accident.

    The PRC is attempting to cast the U.S. as the origin of the SARS-COVID 19. That propaganda works in China, but it isn't working for the rest of the world.

    How's life in the PRC today?




    WHO has investigated twice in China. Why China would not allow unobstructed investigation? Because the notorious scandal engaged by the western world in the WMD in Iraq. UN searched for WMD for several years and found nothing. Then someone alleged it maybe inside the palace. What a joke! But there are people like you believe it. After US invasion of Iraq, they searched unabstructively and still found nothin. So the western world is engaged in lying. No one apologized for the lies. And hundred of thousands of Iraqis died. Politics is dirty. Similar thing is happening in the Jan 6. investigation. Why Republicans would not allow unobstructed investigation? For the same reason.
    Ft. Derrick Lab is a bioweapon lab. What kind of weapons it is doing? It is a national security secret. This is the single reason US government would not allow any foreign organization to see inside. All the personnel working inside need top security clearance. Wuhan virology lab is totally different. It is very open. The scientists publish their work in world journals. Western scientists have been working there all the time. Why do you continue to believe in western anti-China people especially the Republicans disregarding these truths? George is very right about you. You have no common sense of right and wrong.
    LOL!

    I didn't believe WMD was in Iraq, at least in any quantity, and I didn't believe that the virus came from the Wuhan Lab, though there is still a possibility of that. I do question why the PRC is so adamant about disallowing further investigation, given that the PRC was never forthcoming on the previous investigations. Afraid that an independent investigation will turn up something?

    No matter.

    The West grows tired of Xi Jinping and the PRC's "Wolf Warrior Diplomacy", and that has created a environment for strengthened alliances among the West. 

    Sadly for the PRC, their expectation of surpassing the U.S. as an economic superpower is waning, albeit the West still faces the PRC's militarization. Still, it isn't like the West isn't aware of that, and acting to strengthen alliances, including with Taiwan.
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Reply 20 of 79
    waveparticlewaveparticle Posts: 1,497member
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    tmay said:
    red oak said:
    Suppose it does come out that the virus was man made by China.    Would Apple, who has become so politically correct, say one word?     No, they won’t.   And it would be be so hypocritical 


    What if it comes out that the virus came from the U.S.?  Would you say one word?  No, you won't.  And it would be so hypocritical.
    There is zero evidence that the SARS-COVID 19 virus originated in the U.S.

    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00502-4

    Was the virus spreading in people outside China before December 2019?

    Answering this question is also key to establishing the timeline of the first COVID-19 cases. Previously, researchers in Europe have reported1,2,3 finding antibodies against SARS-CoV-2 in samples taken at blood banks from November 2019 onwards.

    Ben Embarek says this doesn’t necessarily suggest the virus originated in Europe, but supports the idea that it was spreading in Wuhan before the first known cases. “Wuhan at that time was a very well-connected international city with direct flights to the entire planet on a daily basis. So if it was circulating in Wuhan, it could easily have been brought to other parts of the world through travellers, and circulating again, undetected, in different regions,” he says.

    Still, he recommends that the blood samples from Europe be retested to confirm that they indicate cases of COVID-19. Some of them, from Italy and France, are already being reanalysed, he says.


    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/372/6543/694.1

    As scientists with relevant expertise, we agree with the WHO director-general (5), the United States and 13 other countries (6), and the European Union (7) that greater clarity about the origins of this pandemic is necessary and feasible to achieve. We must take hypotheses about both natural and laboratory spillovers seriously until we have sufficient data. A proper investigation should be transparent, objective, data-driven, inclusive of broad expertise, subject to independent oversight, and responsibly managed to minimize the impact of conflicts of interest. Public health agencies and research laboratories alike need to open their records to the public. Investigators should document the veracity and provenance of data from which analyses are conducted and conclusions drawn, so that analyses are reproducible by independent experts.
    Needless to say, China would resort to official propaganda blaming the Ft. Detrick Laboratory in the U.S., rather than allow the World to investigate the origin of SARS-COVID 19.


    Gain of function is pioneered in the western world. In other words, western scientists have been doing this kind of experiment all the time. Covid-19 may not be originated from it. But this lab must be doing similar experiment. There was an accident in the lab early in 2019. Why US government does not allow inspection in the lab? The argument for rein spection of the Wuhan lab is to prevent another pandemic in the future. I think this argument should be applied to all the virus labs in the world. Don't you agree? 
    Actually, the argument today is "what is the origin of SARS-COVID 19", and why won't the PRC allow an independent investigation to determine that origin? 

    As for you PRC propaganda wrt to Ft Detrick;

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/05/health/germs-fort-detrick-biohazard.html

    In 2019, there wasn't "sufficient systems in place to decontaminate waste water", but there was no accident.

    The PRC is attempting to cast the U.S. as the origin of the SARS-COVID 19. That propaganda works in China, but it isn't working for the rest of the world.

    How's life in the PRC today?




    WHO has investigated twice in China. Why China would not allow unobstructed investigation? Because the notorious scandal engaged by the western world in the WMD in Iraq. UN searched for WMD for several years and found nothing. Then someone alleged it maybe inside the palace. What a joke! But there are people like you believe it. After US invasion of Iraq, they searched unabstructively and still found nothin. So the western world is engaged in lying. No one apologized for the lies. And hundred of thousands of Iraqis died. Politics is dirty. Similar thing is happening in the Jan 6. investigation. Why Republicans would not allow unobstructed investigation? For the same reason.
    Ft. Derrick Lab is a bioweapon lab. What kind of weapons it is doing? It is a national security secret. This is the single reason US government would not allow any foreign organization to see inside. All the personnel working inside need top security clearance. Wuhan virology lab is totally different. It is very open. The scientists publish their work in world journals. Western scientists have been working there all the time. Why do you continue to believe in western anti-China people especially the Republicans disregarding these truths? George is very right about you. You have no common sense of right and wrong.
    LOL!

    I didn't believe WMD was in Iraq, at least in any quantity, and I didn't believe that the virus came from the Wuhan Lab, though there is still a possibility of that. I do question why the PRC is so adamant about disallowing further investigation, given that the PRC was never forthcoming on the previous investigations. Afraid that an independent investigation will turn up something?

    No matter.

    The West grows tired of Xi Jinping and the PRC's "Wolf Warrior Diplomacy", and that has created a environment for strengthened alliances among the West. 

    Sadly for the PRC, their expectation of surpassing the U.S. as an economic superpower is waning, albeit the West still faces the PRC's militarization. Still, it isn't like the West isn't aware of that, and acting to strengthen alliances, including with Taiwan.
    Cuomo guilty or innocent? LOL
    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/09/nyregion/roberta-kaplan-times-up-cuomo.html
    edited August 2021
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