<strong>I do agree with PowerPC that Rendevous will be discussed, Apple and other vendors.
Phillips might even show a stereo using rendevous and playing songs from an iTunes playlist. Now that would be good!</strong><hr></blockquote>That's a good point - didn't Steve at MWNY say something about iTunes having rendezvous by the time MWSF 2003 rolled around. He demoed playing Schiller's playlist (isn't that a movie?) from Steve's computer, and said it would come 6 months down the road.
My one prediction besides more software, is faster iMacs with 17-inch displays. There will also be a 19-inch model. Prices will range from $2000-$1500 and faster eMacs will populate the low-end.
I think video conferencing in iChat. And bluetooth mice and keyboards. And 19 inch iMac. And release some none Apple software like Quark. That along with whatever iApps is enough to fill up a keynote.
<strong>That's a good point - didn't Steve at MWNY say something about iTunes having rendezvous by the time MWSF 2003 rolled around. He demoed playing Schiller's playlist (isn't that a movie?) from Steve's computer, and said it would come 6 months down the road.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Word for word:
... And this is something where we're going take Rendezvous and build this into iTunes probably early next year... And this is the kind of thing that's coming, you know, six months down the road... nine months down the road in iTunes...
C'mon, guys! What's with the 19" predictions? The arm was designed for an 18", tops, with 17" being "safest." Ditto on the processors; there's no reason for three speeds. Also ditto on 1GB RAM; when has any Mac shipped standard with 1GB? I know we can be optimistic, but wow!
My predictions:
- Farewell to Mac OS 9.
- iPod sales @ new retailer recap.
- Xserve may be a stealth update.
- AppleWorks 7 (WP, SS, DB, PR) standard on consumer systems.
- iSync release & demo.
- .Mac recap & new features.
- iTunes 3.1 update to include Rendezvous.
- eMac price drops (to $899 & 1199).
- iMac...
Entry Level - 15" - $999
800/867(?)MHz G4
128MB SDRAM
60GB Hard Disk
Combo Drive
GeForce4MX 32MB DDR
Pro Speakers (now std. on all models)
Mid Range - 17" - $1399
800/867(?)MHz G4
256MB SDRAM
80GB Hard Disk
SuperDrive
GeForce4Ti 64MB DDR / Radeon 9000 64MB DDR
High End - 17" - $1599
933/1GHz(?) G4
256MB SDRAM
100GB Hard Disk
SuperDrive
GeForce4Ti 64MB DDR / Radeon 9000 64MB DDR
I think this is close to what we are going to see, not so much what we want to see. Comments?
Adding a 19" display to the iMac I think would take it out of reach for most consumer, and for a consumer machine this would be a big mistake. I really don't think Apple would take this road.
I do think that because of the success of the 17" model they will drop the other 15" model (or at least the midrange - as mentioned by Johnny Dangerously).
I do hope that Firewire 2 is introduced and bluetooth peripherals.
Do you know for a fact that the arm was engineered for an 18" LCD, max? Or are you guessing?
The 15" iMac is no longer in production after sales plunged. More 17" iMacs were sold than 15" iMacs last quarter, if I'm remembering right, and considering the premium on the 17"'s that's something.
LCD prices are declining 40% by some estimates, and 17" displays in particular are quite reasonable now. On the other hand, the current 17" iMac has proven that a nearly $2000 iMac can be a strong seller.
Based on all of this, I see the 15" vanishing, the 17" moving down to take over the lower price points, and Apple maintaining the current high-end iMacs (with real profit margins!) with a possible larger screen, since that's what differentiates the high end now.
Also, since the iMac has gone so long with only a piddling refresh, there's a very good chance that Apple is reengineering it, which means that it doesn't matter what the current arm can hold up - there might be a bigger one in testing right now.
The recent feature bump/price cut combos rolled out for to the iBook and PowerBook give me hope that Apple will introduce an aggressive iMac and eMac line as well.
If Apple is re-engineering the iMac, lets hope they do a few things right (that they somehow brainfarted on.)
Realistic:
Move both RAM slots to the bottom of the case and use regular dimms!
If need be, move the airport card behind the optical drive door, like the eMac.
Unrealistic:
Make it more cube like inside. One small daughtercard sitting upright against the steel dome (cooled via heat piping, and on the other side one small size AGP port (cpu and gpu then on either side of the centrally mounted drives). Thusly, I may replace both the CPU and Video when the time comes. I don't doubt that Apple could do it, even in the 10.5" base. The dome is a very clever cooling solution that passes air between the plastic case and the outside of the inner steel dome with the help of the little fan at the top it becomes one giant heat sink. Apple could do it, but I know they won't because Steve has decided that I should have to buy an entirely new machine just to make the most minimal upgrade. A$$hole.
One more thing noone is talking about: The nVidia NV30 will be shipping by Dezember and in quantity by Jan-/February.
MWSF would be the perfect time for a "DOOM-3-first-on-the-Mac"-presentation.
This new nVidia chip seems to be of interest even for the high-end film renderer: it can render 100 (!) Jurassic Park dinosours or the computer animated Final Fantasy film at 24 fps in real-time.
This thing will require massive cooling.
I sure hope Apple gives its customer machines decent GPUs: Radeon 9000 pro on the low and 9700 on the high end. I think this is realistic since the new iBooks just got pretty decent chips, too.
<strong>spymac says new iMacs in January with a slot drive.</strong><hr></blockquote>That's a good point. Now that slot-load superdrives are out, they can put that in the iMac.
They should get/have gotten rid of it in the TiBook, not spread this abomination around!
ARGH!</strong><hr></blockquote>
What's wrong with it? Is it just that you can't fit different-sized or -shaped discs in it? I've never even seen one of those discs, so that's not an issue to me. They're not slower, that I'm aware.
What's wrong with it? Is it just that you can't fit different-sized or -shaped discs in it? I've never even seen one of those discs, so that's not an issue to me. They're not slower, that I'm aware.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually we use quite a few of those 8cm disks. Our vendors love to use them for product info.
They should get/have gotten rid of it in the TiBook, not spread this abomination around!
ARGH!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Take a deep breath! Not everything that Apple does is wrong!
I'm not sure what you think a Macintosh is. From the $399 thread and this one, it sounds like you just want a PC. A Macintosh can be different than a PC! I prefer slot loading and no floppy.
Why don't you just tell us your favorite PC configuration, then buy one, and leave the Macintosh alone? You're constant harping is becoming noise. "Oh, another Matsu complaining post. I'll just pass on by..."
Comments
<strong>I do agree with PowerPC that Rendevous will be discussed, Apple and other vendors.
Phillips might even show a stereo using rendevous and playing songs from an iTunes playlist. Now that would be good!</strong><hr></blockquote>That's a good point - didn't Steve at MWNY say something about iTunes having rendezvous by the time MWSF 2003 rolled around. He demoed playing Schiller's playlist (isn't that a movie?) from Steve's computer, and said it would come 6 months down the road.
<strong>That's a good point - didn't Steve at MWNY say something about iTunes having rendezvous by the time MWSF 2003 rolled around. He demoed playing Schiller's playlist (isn't that a movie?) from Steve's computer, and said it would come 6 months down the road.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Word for word:
... And this is something where we're going take Rendezvous and build this into iTunes probably early next year... And this is the kind of thing that's coming, you know, six months down the road... nine months down the road in iTunes...
[ 11-07-2002: Message edited by: apple.otaku ]</p>
MWSF will be hardware and iApp related. Why else would would Phil Schiller have to do a "2nd day keynote" on OS X?
<a href="http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0211/07.expo.php"; target="_blank">http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0211/07.expo.php</a>;
Dave
My predictions:
- Farewell to Mac OS 9.
- iPod sales @ new retailer recap.
- Xserve may be a stealth update.
- AppleWorks 7 (WP, SS, DB, PR) standard on consumer systems.
- iSync release & demo.
- .Mac recap & new features.
- iTunes 3.1 update to include Rendezvous.
- eMac price drops (to $899 & 1199).
- iMac...
Entry Level - 15" - $999
800/867(?)MHz G4
128MB SDRAM
60GB Hard Disk
Combo Drive
GeForce4MX 32MB DDR
Pro Speakers (now std. on all models)
Mid Range - 17" - $1399
800/867(?)MHz G4
256MB SDRAM
80GB Hard Disk
SuperDrive
GeForce4Ti 64MB DDR / Radeon 9000 64MB DDR
High End - 17" - $1599
933/1GHz(?) G4
256MB SDRAM
100GB Hard Disk
SuperDrive
GeForce4Ti 64MB DDR / Radeon 9000 64MB DDR
I think this is close to what we are going to see, not so much what we want to see. Comments?
- Johnny Dangerously
I do think that because of the success of the 17" model they will drop the other 15" model (or at least the midrange - as mentioned by Johnny Dangerously).
I do hope that Firewire 2 is introduced and bluetooth peripherals.
The 15" iMac is no longer in production after sales plunged. More 17" iMacs were sold than 15" iMacs last quarter, if I'm remembering right, and considering the premium on the 17"'s that's something.
LCD prices are declining 40% by some estimates, and 17" displays in particular are quite reasonable now. On the other hand, the current 17" iMac has proven that a nearly $2000 iMac can be a strong seller.
Based on all of this, I see the 15" vanishing, the 17" moving down to take over the lower price points, and Apple maintaining the current high-end iMacs (with real profit margins!) with a possible larger screen, since that's what differentiates the high end now.
Also, since the iMac has gone so long with only a piddling refresh, there's a very good chance that Apple is reengineering it, which means that it doesn't matter what the current arm can hold up - there might be a bigger one in testing right now.
The recent feature bump/price cut combos rolled out for to the iBook and PowerBook give me hope that Apple will introduce an aggressive iMac and eMac line as well.
[ 11-08-2002: Message edited by: Amorph ]</p>
so here it is...
imac... bump and new motherboard
powermac... i think new mb design... they suprised us with the powerbooks... hopefully again
ipod... dunno just more stuff that work with it
new appliance.... yes
anyways when you see a bunch of ibm engineers on a train in germany with powerboooks you know somethings going on... what? they really would not say.
cheers,
m2
Realistic:
Move both RAM slots to the bottom of the case and use regular dimms!
If need be, move the airport card behind the optical drive door, like the eMac.
Unrealistic:
Make it more cube like inside. One small daughtercard sitting upright against the steel dome (cooled via heat piping, and on the other side one small size AGP port (cpu and gpu then on either side of the centrally mounted drives). Thusly, I may replace both the CPU and Video when the time comes. I don't doubt that Apple could do it, even in the 10.5" base. The dome is a very clever cooling solution that passes air between the plastic case and the outside of the inner steel dome with the help of the little fan at the top it becomes one giant heat sink. Apple could do it, but I know they won't because Steve has decided that I should have to buy an entirely new machine just to make the most minimal upgrade. A$$hole.
[ 11-08-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
MWSF would be the perfect time for a "DOOM-3-first-on-the-Mac"-presentation.
This new nVidia chip seems to be of interest even for the high-end film renderer: it can render 100 (!) Jurassic Park dinosours or the computer animated Final Fantasy film at 24 fps in real-time.
This thing will require massive cooling.
I sure hope Apple gives its customer machines decent GPUs: Radeon 9000 pro on the low and 9700 on the high end. I think this is realistic since the new iBooks just got pretty decent chips, too.
PowerMacs will move to IBM's next revision of the PowerPC 32 bit cpu. It will be:
all dual procesors @1.0, 1.25, 1.5 GHz
cpu's will be dual core
VMX SIMID compatible w/ Altivec instructions
Rapid I/O
n-way crossbar core connects
100MHz bus Quad pumped to effective 400MHz.
iMacs, eMacs use the
G4 MPC 7457 (0.13µ process)
933MHz, 1.0GHz and 1.25GHz
133MHz system bus
DDR to controller only(uses less power, right)
ps. after MWSF I go into a corner and pout over not seeing any of this
shake workstation based on 970 to be released after mwsf, maybe for siggraph or nab expo
to catch the audio/video professionals
comments?<hr></blockquote>
Uh, Siggraph is usually around July/August...
NAB is a mid-year event also, IIRC...
Kinda moves the timeframe WAY away from MWSF, now doesn't it...?!?
;^p
<a href="http://www.spymac.com/"; target="_blank">http://www.spymac.com/</a>;
FWIW...
<strong>spymac says new iMacs in January with a slot drive.</strong><hr></blockquote>That's a good point. Now that slot-load superdrives are out, they can put that in the iMac.
They should get/have gotten rid of it in the TiBook, not spread this abomination around!
ARGH!
<strong>NOOOOOOO
They should get/have gotten rid of it in the TiBook, not spread this abomination around!
ARGH!</strong><hr></blockquote>
What's wrong with it? Is it just that you can't fit different-sized or -shaped discs in it? I've never even seen one of those discs, so that's not an issue to me. They're not slower, that I'm aware.
<strong>
What's wrong with it? Is it just that you can't fit different-sized or -shaped discs in it? I've never even seen one of those discs, so that's not an issue to me. They're not slower, that I'm aware.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Actually we use quite a few of those 8cm disks. Our vendors love to use them for product info.
<strong>NOOOOOOO
They should get/have gotten rid of it in the TiBook, not spread this abomination around!
ARGH!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Take a deep breath! Not everything that Apple does is wrong!
I'm not sure what you think a Macintosh is. From the $399 thread and this one, it sounds like you just want a PC. A Macintosh can be different than a PC! I prefer slot loading and no floppy.
Why don't you just tell us your favorite PC configuration, then buy one, and leave the Macintosh alone? You're constant harping is becoming noise. "Oh, another Matsu complaining post. I'll just pass on by..."