iPhone - Looks like the rumors were true...

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Here's the full text iPhone trademark:



<a href="http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/T_srch.htm"; target="_blank">http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/trademarks/T_srch.htm</a>;



(Direct link isn't really possible due to the way that website works)



[quote]

iPhone (From Aust. TM DB)

======================

Word: IPHONE

Image:

Lodgement Date: 17-OCT-2002

Convention Details: 19-APR-2002

2002 3555

SWITZERLAND

Acceptance Due: 25-JAN-2004

First Report: 25-OCT-2002

Class/es: 9, 38, 42

Status: Under Examination - Extension Fees Not Required

Kind: n/a

Type: Word

Examiner: Halina STAWSKI



Owner/s: Apple Computer, Inc

1 Infinite Loop MS 3TM, Cupertino,

California 95014

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

Address for Service: CLAYTON UTZ

PO Box H3

AUSTRALIA SQUARE

1215,NSW



Goods & Services



Class: 9 Computer hardware and software



Class: 38 Communication by computer; communication between computers; rental and rental of communication apparatus and electronic post fans for personal use; electronic news services; electronic sending of data and stands on Internet or other data bank; supply of data and news by electronic sending; obtaining of access for electronic news services relating to here by shop of information and data on the Internet



Class: 42 Computer services; development and sale of media for use in computer networks, cable in bulk networks and worldwide communication networks; web site hosting; woven -site- hosting; software leasing; advisory services relating to computers, software electronics, telecommunication, security and -authentisierung-; enable of information, computer networks, cable in bulk networks and worldwide communication networks; advisory services and computer technical support services, computer networks, software and computer operated stands management and -workgroup-assembly on computer networks and worldwide communication networks; enable of software updating by computer networks and worldwide - komunikationsnetzwerke-; enable of on line magazine in area of computers and computer software



History

Opposition





Indexing Details - Word Constituents

I IPHONE

LTR



Indexing Details - Image Constituents

======================

<hr></blockquote>



Dave



[ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: DaveGee ]</p>
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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 210
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    Also - you all know/remember where the iPod details were first leaked/confirmed right?



    Yep. That very same Australian TM database! :eek:



    Here is the text from the iPod so we can compare/contrast:



    [quote]

    iPod (From Aust. TM DB)

    ======================

    Word: IPOD

    Image:

    Lodgement Date: 02-OCT-2001

    Convention Details: 31-AUG-2001

    08612/2001

    SWITZERLAND

    Registered From: 02-OCT-2001

    Acceptance Advertised: 11-APR-2002

    Registration Advertised: 01-AUG-2002

    Sealing Date: 22-JUL-2002

    Renewal Due: 02-OCT-2011

    Class/es: 9, 28, 38, 42

    Status: Registered/Protected

    Kind: n/a

    Type: Word



    Owner/s: Apple Computer, Inc

    1 Infinite Loop,

    MS : 3TM, Cupertino,

    California 95014

    UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    Address for Service: CLAYTON UTZ

    PO Box H3

    AUSTRALIA SQUARE

    1215,NSW



    Goods & Services



    Class: 9 Computers, computer hardware, computer peripherals, hand held computers, personal digital assistants, electronic organisers, electronic notepads, apparatus for recording, transmission and reproduction of sounds, images, or other data; magnetic data carriers; mobile digital electronic devices, telephones, computer gaming machines, microprocessors, memories boards, monitors, displays, keyboards, cables, modems, printers, videophones, disk drives, cameras; computer software, prerecorded computer programs for personal information management, database management software, character recognition software, telephony management software, electronic mail and messaging software, paging software, database synchronization software, computer programs for accessing, browsing and searching online databases, computer software and firmware, namely operating system programs, data synchronization programs, and application development tool programs for personal and handheld computers; electronic handheld devices for the wireless receipt and/or transmission of data, particularly messages, and devices that enable the user to keep track of or manage personal information; software for the redirection of messages, Internet e-mail, and/or other data to one or more electronic handheld devices from a data store on or associated with a personal computer or a server; and software for the synchronization of data between a remote station or device and a fixed or remote station or device; computer hardware and peripherals



    Class: 28 Games and playthings, namely, electronic games, hand-held electronic games and apparatus



    Class: 38 Communication and telecommunication services, providing telecommunications access to web sites on the Internet; delivery of digital music by telecommunications, providing wireless telecommunications via electronic communications networks, wireless digital messaging, paging services, and electronic mail services, including services that enable a user to send and/or receive messages through a wireless data network; one-way and two-way paging services



    Class: 42 Provision of access to websites containing digital content and information on a wide range of topics, including provision of online access



    History

    Opposition





    Indexing Details - Word Constituents

    IPOD



    Indexing Details - Image Constituents

    ======================

    <hr></blockquote>



    Dave
  • Reply 2 of 210
    msanttimsantti Posts: 1,377member
    Just what the world needs, another freakin cell phone.







  • Reply 3 of 210
    othelloothello Posts: 1,053member
    so, how long from registering the iPod TM to release to the public? that might give us an ETA for the iPhone...
  • Reply 4 of 210
    [quote]Acceptance Due: 25-JAN-2004.[/QB]<hr></blockquote>

    Maybe not soon enough!?
  • Reply 5 of 210
    haraldharald Posts: 2,152member
    "Just what we need, another freaking MP3 player" -- Everyone, a week before seeing the iPod.



    "I want one" -- Everyone, the hour after seeing the iPod..
  • Reply 5 of 210
    quickquick Posts: 227member
    [quote]Originally posted by DaveGee:<strong>

    Word: IPHONE

    Image:</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Could you please post the image if there is one.

    [quote]<strong>

    Lodgement Date: 17-OCT-2002

    Convention Details: 19-APR-2002

    2002 3555

    SWITZERLAND

    </strong><hr></blockquote>

    Switzerland? <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
  • Reply 7 of 210
    newnew Posts: 3,244member
    doesn't seem to describe a phone if you ask me... seems more like iSync...
  • Reply 8 of 210
    macluvmacluv Posts: 261member
    [quote]Originally posted by Harald:

    <strong>"Just what we need, another freaking MP3 player" -- Everyone, a week before seeing the iPod.



    "I want one" -- Everyone, the hour after seeing the iPod..</strong><hr></blockquote>





    Yes, but at least the iPod is somewhat cool.



    Have you seen the iPhone prototype? It's Southpark Gay.
  • Reply 8 of 210
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    [quote]Originally posted by cadnuts:

    <strong>

    Maybe not soon enough!?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    I don't think you can go by the 2004 date you quoted ... Just look at the iPod:



    -----

    Acceptance Advertised: 11-APR-2002

    Registration Advertised: 01-AUG-2002

    -----



    And it was released in Fall of 2001



    Dave
  • Reply 10 of 210
    haraldharald Posts: 2,152member
    [quote]Originally posted by MacLuv:

    <strong>



    Yes, but at least the iPod is somewhat cool.



    Have you seen the iPhone prototype? It's Southpark Gay.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Mr. Luv, may I just point out that you haven't seen the iPhone prototype?



    Thank you.
  • Reply 11 of 210
    msanttimsantti Posts: 1,377member
    Well, at the time, there was room to make a much better MP3 player.



    With Cell phones, I am not sure just how much even Apple could do to make it "alot" better.
  • Reply 12 of 210
    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    [quote]Originally posted by DaveGee:

    <strong>



    I don't think you can go by the 2004 date you quoted ... Just look at the iPod:



    -----

    Acceptance Advertised: 11-APR-2002

    Registration Advertised: 01-AUG-2002

    -----



    And it was released in Fall of 2001



    Dave</strong><hr></blockquote>



    True but look at the "Lodgement" and "Registered" dates for the iPod. Early October 2001. Three weeks later the iPod was revealed.



    So if lightning has struck twice for the Australian patent office, then I'd day MWSF.



    Screed



    [ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: sCreeD ]</p>
  • Reply 13 of 210
    The description doesn't "ring true" for a cell/mobile phone. It's more like an extension phone, using your computer to access and then transmit data to the "iphone". There's no way Apple can make a cell/mobile phone that would work for all companies systems without costing too much. Also, the industry works like this: Get a phone (usually at or below actual cost) and committ for a year (or more). If you want to replace your phone a few years down the line, it's not nearly as cheap. My thoughts.
  • Reply 14 of 210
    haraldharald Posts: 2,152member
    [quote]Originally posted by msantti:

    <strong>Well, at the time, there was room to make a much better MP3 player.



    With Cell phones, I am not sure just how much even Apple could do to make it "alot" better.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That's STILL what everyone said when they heard Apple released an MP3 player.



    Apple's breakeven for the iPod was (if I recall correctly, someone else can remind me) only 5% of market share of that tiny market. It only worked with a Mac fergodssake.



    IF they enter this market (and I'm not 100% convinced they will, ® or not) they will enter with expectations very low. An expensive killer product with unique functions related to the Digital Hub.



    Anyway the killer features are .mac (iCal / Address Book) integration and lowest-cost instant messaging via Address book / iChat / email / SMS. That's why the ® application stresses computer-computer communication over telecommunications (which is mentioned). I ping you a message via Address Book. It shows up on your iPhone no matter where you are, but if you're within Bluetooth range of your Mac it costs me not a penny. If not it costs me an SMS. If someone changes a date on a calendar I'm subscribed to it shows up immediately. My alarms follow me around. More stuff like this. Bung in Rendezvous and stupidly easy MMS / other uses of imaging using iPhoto integration and I can imagine a very sexy product that you will want to buy quite a lot.



    [ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: Harald ]</p>
  • Reply 15 of 210
    othelloothello Posts: 1,053member
    the stumbling block to me is the amount of different phone formats/networks out there. Apple can't hope to support them all.



    But what if this iPhone was not really a phone as we know it, but more of a messaging device. Something like a HipTop?
  • Reply 16 of 210
    outsideroutsider Posts: 6,008member
    I was just talking to my wife about getting another phone (we share a single cell phone). The advantage of an Apple cell phone would be all the secondary things that it would have. Complete integration with the Mac, unique features. We'll see what becomes of this. Nice find!
  • Reply 17 of 210
    macluvmacluv Posts: 261member
    [quote]Originally posted by Harald:

    <strong>



    Mr. Luv, may I just point out that you haven't seen the iPhone prototype?



    Thank you.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Really? What the hell is this?







    Looks pretty Southpark Gay to me.







    [ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: MacLuv ]</p>
  • Reply 18 of 210
    haraldharald Posts: 2,152member
    [quote]Originally posted by othello:

    <strong>the stumbling block to me is the amount of different phone formats/networks out there. Apple can't hope to support them all.



    But what if this iPhone was not really a phone as we know it, but more of a messaging device. Something like a HipTop?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    There's only two things they have to support:



    CDMA (used in USA and Korea)

    GSM (used everywhere else from Madagascar to Manchester)



    Variants of these are fairly trivial software only despite what your network claims (on this I am serious); and in exactly the same way that the iPod uses 100% non-Apple technology inside I can easily imagine a similar badge-engineered device that's 100% Apple but with a comparitively LOW R'n'D costs (hence higher margin, lower breakeven) and quick speed to market. Reasonably un-risky.



    I'm talking myself round to the idea.



    [ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: Harald ]</p>
  • Reply 19 of 210
    haraldharald Posts: 2,152member
    [quote]Originally posted by MacLuv:

    <strong>



    Really? What the hell is this? ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    That is a REALLY shît mockup using a bit of Palm, a lot of Photoshop and no design sense whatsoever, taken from a rumour site with less credibility then Henry Kissinger.
  • Reply 19 of 210
    othelloothello Posts: 1,053member
    [quote]Originally posted by Harald:

    <strong>



    There's only two things they have to support:



    CDMA (used in USA and Korea)

    GSM (used everywhere else from Madagascar to Manchester)



    Variants of these are fairly trivial software only despite what your network claims (on this I am serious); and in exactly the same way that the iPod uses 100% non-Apple technology inside I can easily imagine a similar badge-engineered device that's 100% Apple but with a comparitively LOW R'n'D costs (hence higher margin, lower breakeven) and quick speed to market. Reasonably un-risky.



    I'm talking myself round to the idea.



    [ 12-03-2002: Message edited by: Harald ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    so...



    Could Apple make one product and supply 2 versions, one for CDMA and one for GSM? What about dual-band/tri-band (you'll seeing that my knowledge is a little weak in this area)?



    We know that Apple have used one out of two of the agreed pieces of software with Pixo (for the iPod). Perhaps this is number 2?
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