FINAL MWSF Predictions: The writing on the wall

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  • Reply 21 of 105
    mcqmcq Posts: 1,543member
    Powermac G4 Apollo
    • 933 MHz, 60 GB, 512 MB DDR, Combo Drive, GF Ti 200 - $1,599

    • 1.2 GHz, 80 GB, 512 MB DDR, Superdrive, GF Ti 200 - $2,199

    • Dual 1 GHz, 100 GB, 512 MB DDR, Superdrive, GF Ti 500 - $2,799

    Imac - Sahara G3All have 15" LCD screens
    • 800 MHz, 40 GB, 256 MB, CD-RW, Geforce2 Mx - $899

    • 900 MHz, 60 GB, 256 MB, Combo Drive, Geforce 2 Mx- $1,099

    • 1 GHz, 60 GB, 256 MB, SuperDrive, Geforce 2 Mx - $1,399

    IPod - Either update to larger size, or price drop



    IPhoto - Digital Imaging software



    Some other Digital Hub device



    :confused: :confused: <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
  • Reply 22 of 105
    [QUOTE]Originally posted by Aphelion:

    [QB]PRESS RELEASE - 01/08/02



    Aphelion



    That has got to be one of the best press releases I have read!



    The time has got to be close for a "Thin Client" of some sort... I think it is right that it will be disguised as a natural extention of an existing computer with a concept like "remote desktop"... This would be revolutionary and I would say "somewhat bitchin"!



    userone
  • Reply 23 of 105
    -?Hardware?-



    Power Macintosh



    933 MHz G4
    • 512 MB of DDR RAM

    • 40 GB HD

    • CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo (Superdrive Optional)

    • USB 2

    • FireWire 2

    • GigaWire

    • $1699

    1 GHz G4
    • 768 MB of DDR RAM

    • 60 GB HD

    • SuperDrive

    • USB 2

    • FireWire 2

    • GigaWire

    • $1999

    1.2 GHz G4
    • 1 GB of DDR RAM

    • 80 GB HD

    • SuperDrive

    • USB 2

    • FireWire 2

    • GigaWire

    • $2499

    Dual 1 GHz G4
    • 1.5 GB of DDR RAM

    • 100 GB HD

    • SuperDrive

    • USB 2

    • FireWire 2

    • GigaWire

    • $2999

    Macintosh (Previously iMac)



    867 MHz G3
    • 15" LCD Display

    • 256 MB of RAM

    • 30 GB HD

    • DVD-ROM Drive

    • USB 2

    • FireWire 2

    • GigaWire(?)

    • $999

    933 MHz G3
    • 15" LCD Display

    • 384 MB of RAM

    • 40 GB HD

    • CD-RW Drive

    • USB 2

    • FireWire 2

    • GigaWire(?)

    • $1299

    1 GHz G3
    • 15" LCD Display

    • 512 MB of RAM

    • 60 GB HD

    • CD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo

    • USB 2

    • FireWire 2

    • GigaWire(?)

    • $1499

    Displays
    • 17" - $599

    • 19" - $999

    • 22" - $1999

    • 27" - $3999

    ONE MORE THING!







    -?Software?-



    iPhoto
    • Color/contrast correction

    • Dust and Scratch remover

    • Other assorted tools

    Photo Studio Pro
    • All the features of Photoshop and more

    [ 12-22-2001: Message edited by: MacAgent ]</p>
  • Reply 24 of 105
    iPod price drop to 349.



    PowerMac G5

    1.0/1.4/Dual 1.2

    256/512/512 DDR RAM

    60/60/80 GB HD

    GF2/GF3/GF3

    $1699/1999/2599



    iPhoto- Available now for free download



    "One more thing..."

    iMac

    1.0 GHz Apollo

    256 MB SDRAM

    60 GB HD

    GeForce 2MX

    15 inch LCD

    CDROM/CDRW/Combo/Superdrive

    $899/1099/1299/1499 (Called SE)



    No updates to TiBook or iBook (will be updated at MWTK)
  • Reply 25 of 105
    LCD iMac:

    733mhz G4

    128MB RAM

    20GB

    15"LCD

    ATi Radeon 16MB

    CD-ROM or Opition DVD



    867Mhz G4

    128MB

    40GB

    15" LCD

    ATi Radeon 16MB

    CD-RW or Opitional DVD



    933Mhz G4

    256MB

    60GB

    15" LCD

    ATi Radeon 16MB

    Combo Drive

    Airport Card





    PowerMac:

    1.0Ghz G4 Apollo

    256MB

    40GB

    Same Video card as now

    Superdrive



    1.2Ghz G4 Apollo

    256MB

    60GB

    Same Video as now

    Zip 250

    Superdrive

    Airport Card



    1.4Ghz G4 Apollo

    512MB

    80GB

    Same Video as now

    Zip 250

    Superdrive

    Airport Card





    iBook;

    nothing



    PowerBook:

    nothing

    I won't even try to guess on prices. As much as I would like to see the G5 at MWSF, i think Apple will milk the Apollo for what its worth....
  • Reply 26 of 105
    PowerMac-



    G5

    speeds of 1-1.4 GHz

    400 MHz BUS

    DDR RAM

    Hypertransport or Rapid IO

    GeForce Ti/Radeon 8500 now available

    FireWire 2

    Gigawire

    Superdrive on low end

    some implementation of Raycer Graphics



    iMac-



    15" LCD

    speeds in 800 MHz-1 GHz range (either Sahara G3 or Apollo G4)

    GeForce2 MX

    133 MHz bus

    Superdrive option
  • Reply 27 of 105
    iMac

    Two models (differing only with drive, like the iBook with a BTO at Apple Store)

    G4 processor at 800Mhz

    New graphics card (don't ask me what)

    TiPowerbook LCD screen (widescreen anyway)

    128MB RAM

    30GB Hard drive

    ENTRY LEVEL: CDRW

    TOP LEVEL: Combo drive

    BTO: Super drive and 256MB RAM (plus obvious RAM and hard drive size increases, if you wish)



    Brand new cordless keyboard and mouse, work off Airport as Airport card now comes as standard.

    THIS IS APPLE'S REVOLUTIONARY PRODUCT



    New G5 Powermacs

    Same case and pretty much everything really, only now we have G5 processors running at

    1.0Ghz

    1.1Ghz (Dual)

    1.2Ghz

    Also use new keyboards and mice



    Software:

    Appleworks 7

    iPicture 1.0 (but now matching product, like iTunes and iPod)



    Mike
  • Reply 28 of 105
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    1. Speed-bumped G4's, no big deal They will have to wait until March to announce G5's, thus no news here is good news. Otherwise if they makes a big deal about the G4's beyond the usual bake-off and "hooray we broke 1 GHz" it means the G5's will take until July.



    2. New iMac. This is the new "revolutionary" product. LCD, possible expansion for FireWire drive/devices (i.e., the square hole for the square peg), and/or something I can't think of. Big, big deal.



    3. New iPictures app. Think Image Capture meets the essentially defunct Adobe Photo Deluxe. Auto-detect and download of images from devices, upload to iTools Homepage, simple color correction, some trick effects/filters, and printer set-up (albums, framed images, etc.)



    4. Preview of 10.2 (renamed to 10.5 possibly).
  • Reply 29 of 105
    geobegeobe Posts: 235member
    Is the latest Airport upgrade possibly a clue. What if the new product is some sort of cordless telephone that connects to airport either through the Ethernet, if connected over the broadband internet, or, a regular phone call when connected to the regular telephone line. If Apple wants to have a digital hub, starting with the telephone would be a good start.
  • Reply 30 of 105
    daverdaver Posts: 496member
    I want a Newton 2.
  • Reply 31 of 105
    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    Please keep this thread to predictions ONLY.
  • Reply 32 of 105
    (Many thanks to MacAgent for his ideas and format!)



    -?Hardware?-



    Power Macintosh



    1 GHz G4



    *\t512 MB of DDR RAM

    *\t40 GB HD

    *\tCD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo (Superdrive Optional)

    *\tUSB 2

    *\tFireWire 2

    *\tGigaWire

    *\t$1699



    1 GHz G5



    *\t512 MB of DDR RAM

    *\t60 GB HD

    *\tCD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo (Superdrive Optional)

    *\tUSB 2

    *\tFireWire 2

    *\tGigaWire

    *\t$2199



    1.2 GHz G5



    *\t512 MB of DDR RAM

    *\t80 GB HD

    *\tSuperDrive

    *\tUSB 2

    *\tFireWire 2

    *\tGigaWire

    *\t$2999



    1.4 GHz G5



    *\t512 MB of DDR RAM

    *\t80 GB HD

    *\tSuperDrive

    *\tUSB 2

    *\tFireWire 2

    *\tGigaWire

    *\t$3599



    Dual 1.2 GHz G5



    *\t512 MB of DDR RAM

    *\t100 GB HD

    *\tSuperDrive

    *\tUSB 2

    *\tFireWire 2

    *\tGigaWire

    *\t$4199



    iMac



    700 MHz G3



    *\t15" CRT Display

    *\t128 MB of RAM

    *\t30 GB HD

    *\tDVD-ROM Drive

    *\tUSB

    *\tFireWire

    *\t$799



    733 MHz G4



    *\t15" LCD Display

    *\t256 MB of RAM

    *\t30 GB HD

    *\tDVD-ROM Drive

    *\tUSB

    *\tFireWire

    *\t$1199



    867 MHz G4



    *\t15" LCD Display

    *\t256 MB of RAM

    *\t60 GB HD

    *\tCD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo

    *\tUSB

    *\tFireWire

    *\t$1399



    1 GHz G4



    *\t15" LCD Display

    *\t512 MB of RAM

    *\t80 GB HD

    *\tCD-RW/DVD-ROM Combo

    *\tUSB

    *\tFireWire

    *\t$1699



    BTO SuperDrive + $300

    Note: G4 only has on-chip cache (like TiBook)



    iBook - bumped by 100Mhz



    New calendar/schedule applications integrated with Mail and Address Book.



    iPod - software upgradeable to sync with Mail/Address book/calendar. Price reduced to $349.



    Displays



    *\t17" - $699

    *\t19" - $1199

    *\t22" - $1999

    *\t27" - $3999 - requires special graphics card



    ONE MORE THING!



    iPad connected via Gigawire to PowerMacs - $899

    Can display/control PowerMac. G3 600 MHz / 128 SDRAM / Gigawire / ATI rage Mobility. Can also function as second monitor. Infrared port to control TV, VCR, etc.



    (Am I optimistic or what?)



    [ 12-23-2001: Message edited by: jwdawso ]



    [ 12-23-2001: Message edited by: jwdawso ]



    [ 12-23-2001: Message edited by: jwdawso ]</p>
  • Reply 33 of 105
    Hey that's my quote! <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />



    Anyway, guess I'll pitch in my 2 cents:



    iMac: (all standard with 15 inch LCD, FireWire2, USB, Gigabit ethernet, 32 MB GeForce2 MX, Aiport ready)



    $999

    867 MHz G4

    128 MB RAM

    40 GB

    CD-RW



    $1299

    1 GHz G4

    256 MB RAM

    60 GB HD

    DVD/CD-RW Combo



    $1499

    1 GHz G4

    256 MB RAM

    80 GB HD

    Superdrive





    PowerMac: (Gigawire, FireWire2, USB2 standard, RAM expandable to 5 GB+ on the G5 models)



    $1699

    933 MHz G4

    256 MB RAM

    60 GB HD

    DVD/CD-RW combo drive

    64 MB GeForce 2 MX



    $1999

    1 GHz G5

    256 MB RAM

    80 GB HD

    SuperDrive

    64 MB GF3



    $2499

    1.2 GHz G5

    512 MB RAM

    80 GB HD

    SuperDrive

    64 MB GF3



    $2999

    1.4 GHz G5

    512 MB RAM

    80 GB HD

    SuperDrive

    64 MB GF3



    $3499

    Dual 1.2 GHz G5

    512 MB RAM

    100 GB HD

    SuperDrive

    64 MB GF3



    New displays with less space around edges:

    17 inch: $599

    19 inch: $999

    22 inch: $1999

    27 inch: $2999



    One more thing:

    i**** OS X based tablet device that syncys via wireless Firewire to PowerMac and iMac. 1 inch thin, 600 MHz G3, built in Airport. (I think Kormac was ahead of his time, but right...)

    $999



    Software: FCP 3 and Photoshop X demo on G5s, Image Capture Studio



    [ 12-23-2001: Message edited by: Tarbash ]</p>
  • Reply 34 of 105
    I just don;t think they can afford to release the iMac with anything less than a combo CDRW/DVD drive. In this day and age, even on a basic machine, no one wants just a CD-ROM drive. I would have to believe all models would have a combo drive, and a superdrive could/should be a BTO option.
  • Reply 35 of 105
    MWSF



    Power Mac G4



    933 Mhz Apollo G4

    256 MB DDR @266

    60 GB HD (ATA/100)

    Combo Drive

    GeForce 3

    $1699



    Dual 1.13 Ghz Apollo G4

    512 MB DDR @266

    80 GB HD (ATA/100)

    Superdrive

    GeForce 3

    $2499



    Dual 1.33 Ghz Apollo G4

    512 MD DDR @266

    100 GB HD (ATA/100)

    Superdrive

    GeForce 3 w/Twinview



    (b/c no G5, Apple will put dual procs in top two models, just like the dual 450 and 500 at MWNY 2000)



    iMac



    All models with 867 Mhz G3 w/133 Mhz bus, 15" LCD, and GeForce 2.

    CD-Rom/128 MB/20 GB HD/$899

    DVD-Rom/256 MB/40 GB HD/$1199

    CD-RW/256 MB/60 GB HD/$1299

    Combo/512 MB/80 GB HD/$1499



    Software

    Preview of OS X 10.2

    Appleworks 7, in which Apple final demonstrates tha Carbon apps can access services, thus allowing me to write papers that get spell-checked as I type



    And, since I feel like going through the entire product matrix, by predictions through MW Tokyo in March



    Quicktime Live (beginning of Feb)



    Release of QT 6, with full MPEG 4 support



    MW Tokyo



    iBook



    All with 750 Mhz G3 w/bus still at 100 Mhz, still a 12.1" monitor, but now w/the same Mobility Radeon that is in the current crop of PowerBooks



    CD-Rom/128 MB/20 GB HD/$1099

    DVD-Rom/256 MB/20 GB HD/$1299

    CD-RW/256 MB/20 GB HD/$1399

    Combo/256 MB/30 GB HD/$1599



    PowerBook



    800 Mhz Apollo G4

    256 MB SDRAM @133

    30 GB HD

    Combo Drive

    ATi Mobility Radeon 7500 w/32 MB of VRam

    $2299



    933 Mhz Apollo G4

    512 MB SDRAM @133

    48 GB HD

    Combo Drive

    ATi Mobility Radeon 7500 w/32 MB of VRam

    $2999 (Which I will by right after the keynote)



    Ok, I like my predictions, I hope you all do to



    edit:

    Apple will, with the release of Appleworks 7, realize that pro's have to write things too, and include it standard with Power Macs and PowerBooks



    [ 12-23-2001: Message edited by: agent302 ]</p>
  • Reply 36 of 105
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    Alright. I'll bite.



    PowerMac G5

    1 Ghz,1.4 Ghz, dual 1.2 Ghz

    256, 512, 512 MBs RAM

    60, 80, 100 GB HDs

    nVidia Geforce 3 standard

    Superdrive Standard

    Gigabit Ethernet Standard

    266 Mhz DDR

    4X AGP

    ATA/100

    $1699, 2199, 2999



    iMac LCD

    15.1 inch LCD (1024 x 768)

    256 MB RAM

    60 GB HD

    nVidia Geforce 2 MX 16 MB

    867 Mhz G4

    Combo Drive

    Gigabit Ethernet

    $1299



    $1499 with Superdrive



    Preview of Mac OS X 10.2

    QT6 Preview highlighting MPEG 4

    iPod overview, possible price cut to $349



    end of show. iMac will be" one more thing"
  • Reply 37 of 105
    My realistic MWSF02 [very much edited on 1/5/01]:



    Preview of 10.2 (available in March)

    $20 for shipping and handling (can be gotten at CompUSA, etc)



    Portables are mentioned

    iBooks drop $100 (like rebate)

    bumped to 700MHz for combo drive and 600Mhz for CD-ROM

    only CD and combo models

    $1200/$1400



    TiBooks

    667 becomes low end and 733 high end

    same prices, all combo drives



    PowerMac G4

    1 GHz / Dual 1 GHz / 1.2 GHz / 1.4 GHz

    256 MB / 512 MB / 512 MB / 1 GB

    combo / combo / superdrive / superdrive

    60 GB ----- 100 GB

    Faster FireWire, Airport standard

    Everything else stays the same

    $1699 / $2199 / $2599 / $2999



    iMac

    1 GHz G3 Sahara/1 GHz G3 Sahara/1 GHz G4

    128 MB / 256 MB / 256 MB

    CD-ROM /Combo/Superdrive

    40 GB / 60 GB / 60 GB

    14.1 in LCD screen, looks just like current 15 in studio displays

    $899 / $1099 / $1499

    iDVD for the consumer (big deal)



    iMovie 3 (some of the features of FCP 3)

    $50 download, free on iMacs and iBooks, and with 10.2



    One more thing. . .

    New device: iCamera

    The best digicam ever.

    Uses the same 5 GB HD, can store infinate number of pics.

    TV output for slide shows

    Uses FireWire

    iPod's rechargeable battery

    scroll pad navigation, small LCD color screen

    $400



    compantion software:

    iPhoto

    Suped up Image Capture w/ iTunes-like browser interface

    syncs with iCamera

    Put's XP's software to shame

    easily browse massive picture libraries and organize in groups (via coment tags)

    can browse by thumbnails (128x128)

    make OpenGL slideshows with ease (like making a playlist)

    add mp3 soundtracks to slideshows

    export slideshows to iDVD (2.2)

    Easily crop, remove redeye, apply filters, add captions and notes

    OS X ONLY

    (Apple will not sell this, just like they don't sell iDVD)

    Free on all new Macs, and in future OS X revisions (like iMovie for OS X).

    Possibly free download (coming soon).



    There will be NO PRO version of iPhoto (as to not piss off Adobe).



    Apple Rackmount server? (it's coming, but MWSF may not be the best venue to show it off at).

    Dual 800 MHz G4, minimal graphics card, big HD, $999

    [ 12-24-2001: Message edited by: waffffffle ]



    [ 01-05-2002: Message edited by: waffffffle ]</p>
  • Reply 38 of 105
    Some of you guys are just nog being realistic. Tarbash for example:



    " iMac: (all standard with 15 inch LCD, FireWire2, USB, Gigabit ethernet, 32 MB GeForce2 MX, Aiport ready)



    $999

    867 MHz G4

    128 MB RAM

    40 GB

    CD-RW

    "



    Ok, so you think Apple will introduce an iMac with a 867 Mhz G4 processor, 15 inch LCD and a geforce card for a bloody $999 (!&gt;&gt;!?!?) while the 867 is is selling as the top-end G4 now, WITHOUT a monitor, and costs $2,499?



    dream on.
  • Reply 39 of 105
    Ok, now my predictions:



    Hardware

    New PowerMac G4

    - 933 mhz, dual 1.33 Ghz, 1.1 Ghz

    - 256, 512 MB RAM

    - Superdrive in top 2 models

    - same case

    - same prices



    New iMac G3

    - 700 mhz, 867 mhz, 1 Ghz G3

    - 15' flatpanel all models

    - 128, 256 mb RAM

    - DVD or CD-rw, combo in topmodel

    - $999, $1299, $1499



    - No new portables

    - Price drop for the iPod. Probably -$50

    - New iDevice like the iPod, mayby for video.



    Software

    - No preview of OS X 10.2

    - iPhoto, a simple iTunes-like picture-editing app

    - Maybe iMovie 3

    - Demo of Photoshop X



    thats it.



    [ 12-25-2001: Message edited by: /\\ldie ]</p>
  • Reply 40 of 105
    Nice predictions applenut. I'm willing to bet they are close except for the iMac speed maybe.



    MWNY 00 ---&gt; MWSF 01

    500 MHz ---&gt; 733 MHz

    46.6 % increase in MHz



    =



    MWNY 01 ---&gt; MWSF 02

    867 * 1.466 ---&gt; 1271.02





    MWSF 01 ---&gt; MWNY 01

    733 MHz ---&gt; 867 MHz

    18.144611187 % increase in MHz



    =



    MWNY 01 ---&gt; MWSF 02

    867 * 1.18145 ---&gt; 1024.313779



    Give or take, 1.4 isn't quite the huge leap if we look at it. It's possible. If we get a similar leap in theoretical top clock speed as MWSF this year, we're past 1.2 GHz.
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