Son of Next PowerMac with up to 2.5GHz 970?
A thread in Suggestions lists a fatal UBB error when posting to the <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=003106" target="_blank">last thread</a>, so it's time to do the close/reopen dance again.
Carry on.
Carry on.
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<strong>I can't see the 970 being debuted any later than MWNY. The G4 has reached it's limit and people are desperate for this new processor. I think IBM can and will deliver these chips in time for an introduction and we can only hope Apple will have the machines ready to go July 16.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If Steve can justify a three month wait for the 17" PowerBook, then he can certainly justify a MWNY 970 launch with October delivery.
This is precisely what I think Apple must (and will) do.
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<strong>I know Uncle Steve is hardly a pleasant man when things go wrong..</strong><hr></blockquote>
I heard that there was this Steve who was eating at a diner.Â* And when some dude dropped a spoon Steve killed the whole town.
<strong>Did you miss my thread on precisely that?
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Yes, Fran I guess I did, my bad. It's obvious though that we are in complete agreement on this. 970's must be announced at MWNY even if they don't ship until Christmas.
Exactly.
<strong>I can't see the 970 being debuted any later than MWNY. The G4 has reached it's limit and people are desperate for this new processor. I think IBM can and will deliver these chips in time for an introduction and we can only hope Apple will have the machines ready to go July 16.</strong><hr></blockquote>
An educated guess says you're right!
"Get real. You expect Sony to release a console to blow every mainfrain off the planet away.."
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PS3 will be as powerful as 50 Dual G4 PowerMacs!
It's still 2 years away, but it will be worth the wait. Sony's PS3 will be able to do 1 Teraflop, or about about as many gigaflops as 50 of the latest Apple Dual G4 PowerMacs.
Just think, if Apple decides to switch from the rumored 970 to Sony's PS3 CPU in 2005? A PowerMac that can do 1 Teraflop! It makes you froth. That would easily smoke anything Intel plans until 2010.
Tim Sweeney, chief executive of Epic Games in Raleigh, N.C., said that programming games for the PS 3 will be far more complicated than for the PS 2 because the programmer will have to keep track of all the tasks being performed by dozens of processors.
``I can't imagine how you will actually program it,'' he said. ``You do all these tasks in parallel, but the results of one task may affect the results of another task.''
But Sony and its partners believe that if they can coordinate those processors at maximum efficiency, the PS 3 will be able to process a trillion math operations per second -- the equivalent of 100 Intel Pentium 4 chips and 1,000 times faster than processing power of the PS 2.
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So yea, I guess I do. So am I real now?
[ 03-07-2003: Message edited by: KidRed ]</p>
1. The 970 involves a major architecture change i.e. taking the platform from 32 to 64 bit. The logical question raised is what software will benefit from this and what new possibilities are here that weren't before.
This is a developer issue. Apple will also need software to drive 970 sales (that is, from non-AI folks) so there has to be a gap between announce and delivery to allow software makers to update or code entirely new software.
Thus the 970 will be announced in May at WWDC, demoed (with bakeoff) at MWNY and delivered in September.
And since 64-bit change is helpful to databases, expect 10.3 to be shown as well, where the Finder becomes a giant complicated database.
2. Kidred; I'm no expert, but I think you're missing the difference between a Console CPU and a Computer CPU.
One is built primarily to throw frames on the screen at a blistering pace (largely so that would-be teenage deviants can hone their shooting skills.) The other is a more general purpose unit, used to process a more diverse set of commands.
Apple can't simply plug in a PS3 CPU and make the PowerMac faster.
10.3 with a journaling file system and 64 bit and hopefully case avare not just case preserving, and of definitively multi chanel sound support
Applications and OS support for filenames longer than 31 letters
Dual 970 that are way too fast
Having them aviable in mid october would fit my shopping habits
- serial ATA disk. Serial ATA is very apple like, with his philisophy of plug and play. Serial ATA disk (the first disk avalaible) are faster than ATA 133, and requires less work from the CPU.
- USB 2 : Apple claim it's unnecessary, but there is many peripherics who work better on USB 2 : so i wish that Apple will implementate it.
1) Serial ATA
2) 10GB Ethernet
3) USB 2.0
Why? They all have one thing in common. They are inhibiting FireWire as the single high speed wired connection standard.
FireWire r0x0r, these sUx0r.
Barto
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Intro July, shipping "late summer."
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FireWire r0x0r, these sUx0r.</strong><hr></blockquote>
MmMMmm... Looks at recharging iPod... MmMMmm...
[quote]Originally posted by KidRed:
<strong>This is an off topic reply to T'hain concerning the PS3 in the now closed thread-
"Get real. You expect Sony to release a console to blow every mainfrain off the planet away.."
So yea, I guess I do. So am I real now?</strong><hr></blockquote>
[quote]Originally posted by Frank777:
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2. Kidred; I'm no expert, but I think you're missing the difference between a Console CPU and a Computer CPU.
One is built primarily to throw frames on the screen at a blistering pace (largely so that would-be teenage deviants can hone their shooting skills.) The other is a more general purpose unit, used to process a more diverse set of commands.
Apple can't simply plug in a PS3 CPU and make the PowerMac faster.</strong><hr></blockquote>
No you arent!
<strong><a href="http://www.envestco2.com/macwhispers/archives/000046.php" target="_blank">MacWhispers.</a>
Intro July, shipping "late summer."</strong><hr></blockquote>
3 to 4 months claimed by MacWhispers turn into July?August. So September seems the most likely date for mass production and, probably, even shipment of PowerMacs. Somebody on these boards hoped they would come sooner.
And it does seem like new CPUs, because PPC 7457 is said to be a simple drop-in replacement for current G4s.
Second of all, when did we start listening to MacWhispers? They don't have very much credibility you know.
Is that "late summer" in the same sense that it is now "early summer" ?