The fluid does pass through... condoms are 99% effective or something... but a woman is only fertile for about 2 days out of the month. This means that
(28/30)*leak_rate+(2/30)*leak_rate=.01
solve that equation and you get
leak_rate=0.15 or
15% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid.
Uhm sorry, but that's cow manure :-)
1) Women are fertile for about 11 days in every month (Link minimum)
2) Fluid does *not* pass. Condoms are individually tested. Only in the case where you use oil-based lubes will fluid actually pass the condom (oil creates microholes).
3) The overwhelming majority of breaking or slipping condoms is due to errors of the personel involved. So, the risk is extremely dependend on how used you are to shrink-wrapping your dick. Buy water-based lube. Practice. Practice in front of your woman.
The fluid does pass through... condoms are 99% effective or something... but a woman is only fertile for about 2 days out of the month. This means that
(28/30)*leak_rate+(2/30)*leak_rate=.01
solve that equation and you get
leak_rate=0.15 or
15% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid. Now multiply that by the rate at which you are likely to get HIV from exchanging fluids with an HIV positive person and thats scary.
Are you retarded?
You go from having 99% protection with a condom, factor in her being fertile 2 days a week, and suddenly we have a 15% chance of fluid transfer?
1) Women are fertile for about 11 days in every month (Link minimum)
2) Fluid does *not* pass. Condoms are individually tested. Only in the case where you use oil-based lubes will fluid actually pass the condom (oil creates microholes).
3) The overwhelming majority of breaking or slipping condoms is due to errors of the personel involved. So, the risk is extremely dependend on how used you are to shrink-wrapping your dick. Buy water-based lube. Practice. Practice in front of your woman.
Um, sorry, but your article doesn't say that. 4 days at best. but nowhere does it say those 4 days have 100% guarantee of pregnancy. Of course were both simplifying the truth. But the empherical evidence stands on the personal experiences of several million people successfully practicing natural family planning.
You go from having 99% protection with a condom, factor in her being fertile 2 days a week, and suddenly we have a 15% chance of fluid transfer?
Wow.
well, its the fluid that gets women pregnant.. if they get pregnant at a certain rate and you factor out the times of the month that they aren't fertile, then you can calculate the amount of fluid getting through.
Stop and think about last time you had sex... were you nice and dry around your pubic region? There was no sperm working its way up the condom? Makes it hard to defend the safety of it...
No, you don't. You can get AIDS from a transmission of certain bodily fluids. If you don't transfer fluids, there's no risk of AIDS. You can certainly have sex without transfering infected fluids. Your position is biased and incorrect.
Well, in the condom directions, it tells you to pull out after you ejaculate. If you have sperm working its way up and out of the condom during sex, it's your own damn fault.
And yes, I'm pretty sure I didn't have sperm in my pubic hair last time I had sex.
No, you don't. You can get AIDS from a transmission of certain bodily fluids. If you don't transfer fluids, there's no risk of AIDS. You can certainly have sex without transfering infected fluids. Your position is biased and incorrect.
I just proved the invalidity of that assumption using the back of the condom package, the link someone provided above, and 8th grade math. If you can't see that then its really just a matter of invincible ignorance on your part.
Well, in the condom directions, it tells you to pull out after you ejaculate. If you have sperm working its way up and out of the condom during sex, it's your own damn fault.
And yes, I'm pretty sure I didn't have sperm in my pubic hair last time I had sex.
well, its the fluid that gets women pregnant.. if they get pregnant at a certain rate and you factor out the times of the month that they aren't fertile, then you can calculate the amount of fluid getting through.
You weren't talking about pregnancy when you made this statement:
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid.
Nothing to do at all with how long a woman is fertile each month. What, a woman gets a hysterectomy and she's suddenly a safe lay?
Well then, that about does it. You are obviously not trying to really discuss anything here. I didn't think you were such a troll, but then again I'm not in here a whole lot.
Obviously if you are practising safe sex, you're not going to have cum in your pubic hair during sex. That's what the ****ing condom is for.
Too bad your parents didn't know more about this stuff.
You weren't talking about pregnancy when you made this statement:
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid.
Nothing to do at all with how long a woman is fertile each month. What, a woman gets a hysterectomy and she's suddenly a safe lay?
No, I was not talking about pregnancy. I was using the pregnancy statistics from the back of a condom box to calculate the amount of fluid passing through the condom... I will cut and paste from my previous post:
The fluid does pass through... condoms are 99% effective or something... but a woman is only fertile for about 2 days out of the month. This means that
(28/30)*leak_rate+(2/30)*leak_rate=.01
solve that equation and you get
leak_rate=0.15 or
15% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid. Now multiply that by the rate at which you are likely to get HIV from exchanging fluids with an HIV positive person and thats scary.
Well then, that about does it. You are obviously not trying to really discuss anything here. I didn't think you were such a troll, but then again I'm not in here a whole lot.
Obviously if you are practising safe sex, you're not going to have cum in your pubic hair during sex. That's what the ****ing condom is for.
Too bad your parents didn't know more about this stuff.
When a woman is aroused, you can run your finger along her labia (sp), without penetration, and get cum on your finger. Your arguing this?
I'm sorry that you lost your sense of humour at some point in time. Hopefully you'll find it one day.
Yeah, normally I would get a chuckle out of it. But I was being serious because it hurts me to see people so lost as the folks making these posts. I'm a sucker for defending God.
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Originally posted by murbot
Guess you didn't read the article.
I don't have to to know that its illogical and biased. Why would I waste my time?
I can pull go to www.catholic.org and search. I don't find a council of marital sex enforcement.
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
The fluid does pass through... condoms are 99% effective or something... but a woman is only fertile for about 2 days out of the month. This means that
(28/30)*leak_rate+(2/30)*leak_rate=.01
solve that equation and you get
leak_rate=0.15 or
15% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid.
Uhm sorry, but that's cow manure :-)
1) Women are fertile for about 11 days in every month (Link minimum)
2) Fluid does *not* pass. Condoms are individually tested. Only in the case where you use oil-based lubes will fluid actually pass the condom (oil creates microholes).
3) The overwhelming majority of breaking or slipping condoms is due to errors of the personel involved. So, the risk is extremely dependend on how used you are to shrink-wrapping your dick. Buy water-based lube. Practice. Practice in front of your woman.
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
The fluid does pass through... condoms are 99% effective or something... but a woman is only fertile for about 2 days out of the month. This means that
(28/30)*leak_rate+(2/30)*leak_rate=.01
solve that equation and you get
leak_rate=0.15 or
15% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid. Now multiply that by the rate at which you are likely to get HIV from exchanging fluids with an HIV positive person and thats scary.
Are you retarded?
You go from having 99% protection with a condom, factor in her being fertile 2 days a week, and suddenly we have a 15% chance of fluid transfer?
Wow.
Originally posted by Smircle
Uhm sorry, but that's cow manure :-)
1) Women are fertile for about 11 days in every month (Link minimum)
2) Fluid does *not* pass. Condoms are individually tested. Only in the case where you use oil-based lubes will fluid actually pass the condom (oil creates microholes).
3) The overwhelming majority of breaking or slipping condoms is due to errors of the personel involved. So, the risk is extremely dependend on how used you are to shrink-wrapping your dick. Buy water-based lube. Practice. Practice in front of your woman.
Um, sorry, but your article doesn't say that. 4 days at best. but nowhere does it say those 4 days have 100% guarantee of pregnancy. Of course were both simplifying the truth. But the empherical evidence stands on the personal experiences of several million people successfully practicing natural family planning.
Originally posted by Smircle
1) Women are fertile for about 11 days in every month (Link minimum)
Oh crap, that means what, a 60% chance of fluid transfer every time you use a condom then?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Originally posted by murbot
Are you retarded?
You go from having 99% protection with a condom, factor in her being fertile 2 days a week, and suddenly we have a 15% chance of fluid transfer?
Wow.
well, its the fluid that gets women pregnant.. if they get pregnant at a certain rate and you factor out the times of the month that they aren't fertile, then you can calculate the amount of fluid getting through.
Stop and think about last time you had sex... were you nice and dry around your pubic region? There was no sperm working its way up the condom? Makes it hard to defend the safety of it...
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
You get aids from sex.
No, you don't. You can get AIDS from a transmission of certain bodily fluids. If you don't transfer fluids, there's no risk of AIDS. You can certainly have sex without transfering infected fluids. Your position is biased and incorrect.
And yes, I'm pretty sure I didn't have sperm in my pubic hair last time I had sex.
Originally posted by bunge
No, you don't. You can get AIDS from a transmission of certain bodily fluids. If you don't transfer fluids, there's no risk of AIDS. You can certainly have sex without transfering infected fluids. Your position is biased and incorrect.
I just proved the invalidity of that assumption using the back of the condom package, the link someone provided above, and 8th grade math. If you can't see that then its really just a matter of invincible ignorance on your part.
Originally posted by murbot
Well, in the condom directions, it tells you to pull out after you ejaculate. If you have sperm working its way up and out of the condom during sex, it's your own damn fault.
And yes, I'm pretty sure I didn't have sperm in my pubic hair last time I had sex.
She must not have been too aroused.
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
well, its the fluid that gets women pregnant.. if they get pregnant at a certain rate and you factor out the times of the month that they aren't fertile, then you can calculate the amount of fluid getting through.
You weren't talking about pregnancy when you made this statement:
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid.
Nothing to do at all with how long a woman is fertile each month. What, a woman gets a hysterectomy and she's suddenly a safe lay?
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
She must not have been too aroused.
Well then, that about does it. You are obviously not trying to really discuss anything here. I didn't think you were such a troll, but then again I'm not in here a whole lot.
Obviously if you are practising safe sex, you're not going to have cum in your pubic hair during sex. That's what the ****ing condom is for.
Too bad your parents didn't know more about this stuff.
Originally posted by murbot
You weren't talking about pregnancy when you made this statement:
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid.
Nothing to do at all with how long a woman is fertile each month. What, a woman gets a hysterectomy and she's suddenly a safe lay?
No, I was not talking about pregnancy. I was using the pregnancy statistics from the back of a condom box to calculate the amount of fluid passing through the condom... I will cut and paste from my previous post:
The fluid does pass through... condoms are 99% effective or something... but a woman is only fertile for about 2 days out of the month. This means that
(28/30)*leak_rate+(2/30)*leak_rate=.01
solve that equation and you get
leak_rate=0.15 or
15% !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So everytime you have sex with an HIV infected person you have a 15% chance of exchanging fluid. Now multiply that by the rate at which you are likely to get HIV from exchanging fluids with an HIV positive person and thats scary.
Originally posted by murbot
Well then, that about does it. You are obviously not trying to really discuss anything here. I didn't think you were such a troll, but then again I'm not in here a whole lot.
Obviously if you are practising safe sex, you're not going to have cum in your pubic hair during sex. That's what the ****ing condom is for.
Too bad your parents didn't know more about this stuff.
When a woman is aroused, you can run your finger along her labia (sp), without penetration, and get cum on your finger. Your arguing this?
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
She must not have been too aroused.
If your 'girlfriend' is leaving sperm in your pubic hair, then you've got nothing to worry about pregnancy.
Originally posted by audiopollution
If your 'girlfriend' is leaving sperm in your pubic hair, then you've got nothing to worry about pregnancy.
Read the original post before you spew fud. I was talking about moisture. I ignored his typo (converting moisture to sperm).
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
Read the original post before you spew fud. I was talking about moisture. I ignored his typo (converting moisture to sperm).
I'm sorry that you lost your sense of humour at some point in time. Hopefully you'll find it one day.
Originally posted by Jukebox Hero
I ignored his typo (converting moisture to sperm).
Yeah, it's not like you were the one who first made the "sperm working its way up the condom" comment.
heh
Oh my god, talking to trolls is addictive man, I can't stop. I want to see what other fairy tales you can try and prove!
Originally posted by audiopollution
I'm sorry that you lost your sense of humour at some point in time. Hopefully you'll find it one day.
Yeah, normally I would get a chuckle out of it. But I was being serious because it hurts me to see people so lost as the folks making these posts. I'm a sucker for defending God.