I?m with Eugene absolutely as far as the dock and the app-quitting-window-widgets go, but disagree absolutely with the tabphobia.
I?m sure the points I?m about to make were all made during the Great Tab Wars, but I?ve thought of them myself and this is more productive than arguing about Ariel Sharon in AppleOutsider.
Anyway. Using a browser is not like using the Finder. We?re dealing with very specific issues and of course the issue dem need solutions.
To whit.
I like to click on a bunch of links and read pages as the others load. The Finder is instant; the web can take forever. On news sites and forums I?ll have ten on the go at least. I don?t want to have to cycle through windows to see which ones are ready because this is a terrible, frustrating pain in the arse. And I want to be able to see how many I have loading, and to be able to see which links I?ve clicked. To go to the menubar isn?t as convenient, intuitive or as fast as looking at the tabs bar on my browser.
I don?t open the same link twice, I know what I?ve read, I can keep track of my path. I can see it. On my flat panel.
Also, surfin? that intarweb generates windows. That?s one of the things it does. In point of fact, it does it so much that the normal rules of finding the stuff you?ve put down don?t apply any more. When I use the Finder I have as few windows open as I can; I know where I?ve put everything and I know where to find it. I don?t like clutter any more than Kirkland does and there is no app, and nothing you can do with the Finder, that will generate that number of windows. At least, no app I?ve ever used, and no deep-level scurrying-for-data I?ve ever done.
Browsers are a special case, UI guidelines be damned, and tabs do it for me.
Stop calling me and other users of tabbed-browsing ignorant. Just because I disagree with you does not make me stupid, ignorant or misguided.
This is quite correct. I get no special satisfaction from using my graphical user interface in a fashion that accords with the guidelines given to developers for building their applications. This does not give me any kind of boner, or even so much as a tingle in my perineum.
I have a girlfriend; I read books.
I do, however, think OS X is great, tabbed browsing makes perfect sense and Ariel Sharon's domestic policy is terribly misguided, and we can take this over to AppleOutsider if you prefer.
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I?m sure the points I?m about to make were all made during the Great Tab Wars, but I?ve thought of them myself and this is more productive than arguing about Ariel Sharon in AppleOutsider.
Anyway. Using a browser is not like using the Finder. We?re dealing with very specific issues and of course the issue dem need solutions.
To whit.
I like to click on a bunch of links and read pages as the others load. The Finder is instant; the web can take forever. On news sites and forums I?ll have ten on the go at least. I don?t want to have to cycle through windows to see which ones are ready because this is a terrible, frustrating pain in the arse. And I want to be able to see how many I have loading, and to be able to see which links I?ve clicked. To go to the menubar isn?t as convenient, intuitive or as fast as looking at the tabs bar on my browser.
I don?t open the same link twice, I know what I?ve read, I can keep track of my path. I can see it. On my flat panel.
Also, surfin? that intarweb generates windows. That?s one of the things it does. In point of fact, it does it so much that the normal rules of finding the stuff you?ve put down don?t apply any more. When I use the Finder I have as few windows open as I can; I know where I?ve put everything and I know where to find it. I don?t like clutter any more than Kirkland does and there is no app, and nothing you can do with the Finder, that will generate that number of windows. At least, no app I?ve ever used, and no deep-level scurrying-for-data I?ve ever done.
Browsers are a special case, UI guidelines be damned, and tabs do it for me.
Originally posted by Kirkland
Stop calling me and other users of tabbed-browsing ignorant. Just because I disagree with you does not make me stupid, ignorant or misguided.
This is quite correct. I get no special satisfaction from using my graphical user interface in a fashion that accords with the guidelines given to developers for building their applications. This does not give me any kind of boner, or even so much as a tingle in my perineum.
I have a girlfriend; I read books.
I do, however, think OS X is great, tabbed browsing makes perfect sense and Ariel Sharon's domestic policy is terribly misguided, and we can take this over to AppleOutsider if you prefer.
Moogs can hold our coats.
Eugene: stop taunting the new guy.
Kirkland: stop baiting him so blatantly.
Jeez, you're both acting like playground kids.
Aaaaaaaaaand, since this has jack-all to do with the Dock anymore....
LOCKED.