No as usual, you've presented nothing but shit. I have posted and referenced broad economic data.
So have I. You just don't acknowledge them. Yours of course is always tempered with Bush colored glasses. Everytime I've posted a reference you've always had the same response as quoted in my last post. Of course yours are much more credible.
In a pig's eye.
So why talk at any great length with you? The only thing worth my while is poking holes in your very subjective logic.
As for taking the high road, I don't think one should brush off claims off anti-americanism or anti-patriotism (whatever those things are.) However, to respond in the exact same manner as attacked makes one appear just as ridiculous as the person making the original attack. Name calling just gets old. And there's a lot of it in AO.
Respond? No, that's not what I'm suggesting. Democrats have been doing nothing but "responding" for the last few years. Responding gets you dick in the political world. We (Dems) have to take the fight to them instead of waiting for the next salvo. Frame the issue, present the ideas, co-opt their issue, make them look silly over their precious wedge-issues, continue framing. That's what they've successfully done to the Dems since 1993.
Am I angry and unreasonable? Absolutely!
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So it's ok for you to complain about being attacked, but not ok for someone possibly move level headed to complain about everyone else attacking each other? Seems odd to me. But if you guys want to duke it out in perpetual battle, so be it. [/B]
Battle? I haven't seen a real battle at all. The Dems have rolled over and played zeta-male since BushCorp broke into office. The Dems approve an astonishing number of judges and we still get bitch-slapped by the right. The Dems approve all these outrageous spending bills out of complete fear for their political asses and WE STILL GET SHAT UPON by Tom Delay. The Repugs use intimidation and bribery to get their votes and the Dems sit idly by. Battle? What battle?
My tone has changed considerably over the last few months. I've tried using civil discourse to argue my point. I believe I've made considerable, thoughful arguments about my positions. I just get laughed at and called an un-American terrorist sympathizer. That's fine. I've decided to no longer be reasonable. I've decided to no longer concede anything. I've decided it's time to point my finger in some chests!
You go to a fist fight with a knife. You go to a knife fight with a gun. I want to bring a MoAB!
Respond? No, that's not what I'm suggesting. Democrats have been doing nothing but "responding" for the last few years. Responding gets you dick in the political world. We (Dems) have to take the fight to them instead of waiting for the next salvo. Frame the issue, present the ideas, co-opt their issue, make them look silly over their precious wedge-issues, continue framing. That's what they've successfully done to the Dems since 1993.
Am I angry and unreasonable? Absolutely!
Battle? I haven't seen a real battle at all. The Dems have rolled over and played zeta-male since BushCorp broke into office. The Dems approve an astonishing number of judges and we still get bitch-slapped by the right. The Dems approve all these outrageous spending bills out of complete fear for their political asses and WE STILL GET SHAT UPON by Tom Delay. The Repugs use intimidation and bribery to get their votes and the Dems sit idly by. Battle? What battle?
My tone has changed considerably over the last few months. I've tried using civil discourse to argue my point. I believe I've made considerable, thoughful arguments about my positions. I just get laughed at and called an un-American terrorist sympathizer. That's fine. I've decided to no longer be reasonable. I've decided to no longer concede anything. I've decided it's time to point my finger in some chests!
You go to a fist fight with a knife. You go to a knife fight with a gun. I want to bring a MoAB! [/B]
SING IT BROTHER! WE DEMOCRATS WILL TAX YOU CAPITALIST SWINE TO DEATH WHEN WE TAKE OVER!!!!! KISS YOUR COZY STANDARD OF LIVING GOODBYE!
SING IT BROTHER! WE DEMOCRATS WILL TAX YOU CAPITALIST SWINE TO DEATH WHEN WE TAKE OVER!!!!! KISS YOUR COZY STANDARD OF LIVING GOODBYE!
Aries 1B
You must be referring to The Bush Tax. I don't really remember my standard of living being all that cozy when I consider that my property taxes are skyrocketing, my daughter's college tuition is going up exponentialy, not to mention that I will have to pay $52.000 more over six years to cover the national debt.
Also, I never got that refund check. Did you?
Oh, wait. You're referring to the upper 1% and their cozy standard of living. Got it.
From your unbiased link: Rather than take responsibility for our common future, Bush has shifted costs to states and communities, who then pass them on to you. That?s the Bush Tax.
So what you're saying is that you prefer another level of bureaucracy to manage YOUR money more efficiently. Pure genius.
You must be referring to The Bush Tax. I don't really remember my standard of living being all that cozy when I consider that my property taxes are skyrocketing, my daughter's college tuition is going up exponentialy, not to mention that I will have to pay $52.000 more over six years to cover the national debt.
Also, I never got that refund check. Did you?
Oh, wait. You're referring to the upper 1% and their cozy standard of living. Got it.
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Actually Japan and China are rather notorious for attempting to keep their currencies low. Deflating currencies is also a rather infamous means of getting rid of debt.
Nick
That is an excellent point. There's a bit more going on here than meets the eye.
(Don't forget that the president doesn't control monetary policy.)
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Originally posted by SDW2001
No as usual, you've presented nothing but shit. I have posted and referenced broad economic data.
So have I. You just don't acknowledge them. Yours of course is always tempered with Bush colored glasses. Everytime I've posted a reference you've always had the same response as quoted in my last post. Of course yours are much more credible.
In a pig's eye.
So why talk at any great length with you? The only thing worth my while is poking holes in your very subjective logic.
Originally posted by bunge
Happy Holidays Bush!
Let's hope that rather than just ignoring this blunder it's the gift that keeps on giving.
Sure sounds like it if they are still having hearings in march.
Say, I wonder if that will have any impact on the upcoming
election?
Originally posted by jimmac
Say, I wonder if that will have any impact on the upcoming
election?
Hell no! Bush is UNBEATABLE!
Originally posted by rageous
As for taking the high road, I don't think one should brush off claims off anti-americanism or anti-patriotism (whatever those things are.) However, to respond in the exact same manner as attacked makes one appear just as ridiculous as the person making the original attack. Name calling just gets old. And there's a lot of it in AO.
Respond? No, that's not what I'm suggesting. Democrats have been doing nothing but "responding" for the last few years. Responding gets you dick in the political world. We (Dems) have to take the fight to them instead of waiting for the next salvo. Frame the issue, present the ideas, co-opt their issue, make them look silly over their precious wedge-issues, continue framing. That's what they've successfully done to the Dems since 1993.
Am I angry and unreasonable? Absolutely!
So it's ok for you to complain about being attacked, but not ok for someone possibly move level headed to complain about everyone else attacking each other? Seems odd to me. But if you guys want to duke it out in perpetual battle, so be it. [/B]
Battle? I haven't seen a real battle at all. The Dems have rolled over and played zeta-male since BushCorp broke into office. The Dems approve an astonishing number of judges and we still get bitch-slapped by the right. The Dems approve all these outrageous spending bills out of complete fear for their political asses and WE STILL GET SHAT UPON by Tom Delay. The Repugs use intimidation and bribery to get their votes and the Dems sit idly by. Battle? What battle?
My tone has changed considerably over the last few months. I've tried using civil discourse to argue my point. I believe I've made considerable, thoughful arguments about my positions. I just get laughed at and called an un-American terrorist sympathizer. That's fine. I've decided to no longer be reasonable. I've decided to no longer concede anything. I've decided it's time to point my finger in some chests!
You go to a fist fight with a knife. You go to a knife fight with a gun. I want to bring a MoAB!
Originally posted by Northgate
Respond? No, that's not what I'm suggesting. Democrats have been doing nothing but "responding" for the last few years. Responding gets you dick in the political world. We (Dems) have to take the fight to them instead of waiting for the next salvo. Frame the issue, present the ideas, co-opt their issue, make them look silly over their precious wedge-issues, continue framing. That's what they've successfully done to the Dems since 1993.
Am I angry and unreasonable? Absolutely!
Battle? I haven't seen a real battle at all. The Dems have rolled over and played zeta-male since BushCorp broke into office. The Dems approve an astonishing number of judges and we still get bitch-slapped by the right. The Dems approve all these outrageous spending bills out of complete fear for their political asses and WE STILL GET SHAT UPON by Tom Delay. The Repugs use intimidation and bribery to get their votes and the Dems sit idly by. Battle? What battle?
My tone has changed considerably over the last few months. I've tried using civil discourse to argue my point. I believe I've made considerable, thoughful arguments about my positions. I just get laughed at and called an un-American terrorist sympathizer. That's fine. I've decided to no longer be reasonable. I've decided to no longer concede anything. I've decided it's time to point my finger in some chests!
You go to a fist fight with a knife. You go to a knife fight with a gun. I want to bring a MoAB! [/B]
SING IT BROTHER! WE DEMOCRATS WILL TAX YOU CAPITALIST SWINE TO DEATH WHEN WE TAKE OVER!!!!! KISS YOUR COZY STANDARD OF LIVING GOODBYE!
Aries 1B
Originally posted by Aries 1B
SING IT BROTHER! WE DEMOCRATS WILL TAX YOU CAPITALIST SWINE TO DEATH WHEN WE TAKE OVER!!!!! KISS YOUR COZY STANDARD OF LIVING GOODBYE!
Aries 1B
You must be referring to The Bush Tax. I don't really remember my standard of living being all that cozy when I consider that my property taxes are skyrocketing, my daughter's college tuition is going up exponentialy, not to mention that I will have to pay $52.000 more over six years to cover the national debt.
Also, I never got that refund check. Did you?
Oh, wait. You're referring to the upper 1% and their cozy standard of living. Got it.
Originally posted by Northgate
You must be referring to The Bush Tax.
From your unbiased link: Rather than take responsibility for our common future, Bush has shifted costs to states and communities, who then pass them on to you. That?s the Bush Tax.
So what you're saying is that you prefer another level of bureaucracy to manage YOUR money more efficiently. Pure genius.
Originally posted by Northgate
You must be referring to The Bush Tax. I don't really remember my standard of living being all that cozy when I consider that my property taxes are skyrocketing, my daughter's college tuition is going up exponentialy, not to mention that I will have to pay $52.000 more over six years to cover the national debt.
Also, I never got that refund check. Did you?
Oh, wait. You're referring to the upper 1% and their cozy standard of living. Got it.
HAW HAW, GOOD ONE, CENTURION! THE LINK YOU CITE DOUBTLESS IS COMPLETELY OBJECTIVE! (AS EVIDENCED BY ITS
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Aries 1B
Originally posted by trumptman
Actually Japan and China are rather notorious for attempting to keep their currencies low. Deflating currencies is also a rather infamous means of getting rid of debt.
Nick
That is an excellent point. There's a bit more going on here than meets the eye.
(Don't forget that the president doesn't control monetary policy.)