I may be wrong on the 64 tracks piece. Here's a quote from GB's loop page
Didn't Jobs say that it was limited to 64 tracks? I wonder if he meant live audio/midi input? There are lots of multi-track/sequencing apps out there that offer, say 8 or 16 tracks of audio and 64 of sequences....
Didn't Jobs say that it was limited to 64 tracks? I wonder if he meant live audio/midi input? There are lots of multi-track/sequencing apps out there that offer, say 8 or 16 tracks of audio and 64 of sequences....
I could've sworn he did say there is a 64 track limit in GB. That's why I said so in my earlier post, but I decided to check out the product pages again and that's why I posted that quote in my later post.
I'm gonna check out the keynote again and run through the whole GB segment again.
64 tracks is a lot, at BEST you'd have 6-8 mics for drums
plus 2-3 vocal mics
maybe 2-3 mics on guitar amps
and 1-3 people playing DI
and then you still have lots of room to spare.
I was under teh impression that it was only 24 tracks? 64 though...daamn that's really a lot, doesn't the 64 track version of pro tools(no different than the 24 track version, just with more tracks) cost like $1000 more?
Yeah, 64 tracks for a consumer app is ridiculous. I'm curious how they are going to deal with the fact that most people's machines will konk out long before they hit that number.
In logic, I rarely use more than ~15 or so software instruments (typically a bunch of exs24s, an fm7 or two and maybe one or two of my other synths) and about the same number of audio tracks. 64 tracks is more than enough for anything.
Yeah, but if 64 tracks is true, that's crazy, I thought it was 24 myself, but 64...whew.
that'd be awesome(even if you couldn't ever use that many)
I think it's totally cool to give a high track limit.
I like that garageband seems to be focused on giving a complete package for someone who doesn't do much computer audio while not simply delivering a totally crippled version of a higher-end DAW.
In other words, it looks like they decided to make a DAW that started with the needs of the consumer-level user in mind. That's pretty cool.
I believe it's a low B, ideal for that "I'mgonnastranglemymotherandcutyoureyesout" ominous, heavy tone.
I remember 7 string guitars being a bit of a trend a couple of years ago, among the Limp Korn set. Couldn't walk into a Barnes & Noble and NOT see 7-string Ibanez shit all over the cover of Guitar World and other mags.
While the iPod Minis are certainly the most controversial announcement of the keynote, to many of us, GararageBand is by far the most exciting. I spent a few minutes with an Apple rep in their towering booth playing with the new software. Its really is quite easy to create a decent sounding track from a series of loops. I made some sort of blues/harmonica thing with a vintage organ in about five minutes. The loops "ohtamatically" adjust their tempo to match your composition settings. Some electronic pianos offer a similar feature where you can lay down a rhythm track and choose tempo and key in which to play it. Unfortunately, while GarageBand lets you choose tempo, it has you locked into a particular key for each track. The only way around this appears to be to plug in your own instrument and do it yourself. "
So each track has its own key. If you want that instrument to change keys, you'd have to add the same instrument in a new key in a new track, yes? A bit clumsy, but who can complain really.
Ok, looking at the Apple screen shot, you can break up tracks into smaller chunk. So wouldn't you be able to change the key for the different sections? Or is this only for software instruments?
So each track has its own key. If you want that instrument to change keys, you'd have to add the same instrument in a new key in a new track, yes? A bit clumsy, but who can complain really.
I wonder if it's each track that has it's own key, or each composition. What I'm (pessimistically) guessing is that it automatically changes the pitch of whatever new track you stick in there to the key of whatever others loops are already there in the other tracks.
I wonder if it's each track that has it's own key, or each composition. What I'm (pessimistically) guessing is that it automatically changes the pitch of whatever new track you stick in there to the key of whatever others loops are already there in the other tracks.
If you look closely at the loops selection list, there are various keys preset. It looks, instead, like you either grab a loops in a certain key, or assign it the key you want.
Yeah but it says it automatically changes the key to match the other stuff. So if you've already put some stuff in F in there, and then you grab something that's in D, it'll change it to F before playing it.
But that means it clearly has the capability to change keys - the question is, can you do it manually, at any point you want?
Yeah but it says it automatically changes the key to match the other stuff. So if you've already put some stuff in F in there, and then you grab something that's in D, it'll change it to F before playing it.
But that means it clearly has the capability to change keys - the question is, can you do it manually, at any point you want?
Right. Surely, if they've put so much work into having this be automatic, there's an option to change the key manually somewhere.
Surely.
Oh wait. This is Apple we're talking about, isn't it.
Does someone have a cached copy of the keynote, or perhaps just the John Mayer performance? Because I could have sworn while I was listening to him play that there were definitely key changes. There was a definite A-B-A structure to the song he created.
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Originally posted by PBG4 Dude
I may be wrong on the 64 tracks piece. Here's a quote from GB's loop page
Didn't Jobs say that it was limited to 64 tracks? I wonder if he meant live audio/midi input? There are lots of multi-track/sequencing apps out there that offer, say 8 or 16 tracks of audio and 64 of sequences....
Originally posted by midwinter
Didn't Jobs say that it was limited to 64 tracks? I wonder if he meant live audio/midi input? There are lots of multi-track/sequencing apps out there that offer, say 8 or 16 tracks of audio and 64 of sequences....
I could've sworn he did say there is a 64 track limit in GB. That's why I said so in my earlier post, but I decided to check out the product pages again and that's why I posted that quote in my later post.
I'm gonna check out the keynote again and run through the whole GB segment again.
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
64 tracks is a lot, at BEST you'd have 6-8 mics for drums
plus 2-3 vocal mics
maybe 2-3 mics on guitar amps
and 1-3 people playing DI
and then you still have lots of room to spare.
I was under teh impression that it was only 24 tracks? 64 though...daamn that's really a lot, doesn't the 64 track version of pro tools(no different than the 24 track version, just with more tracks) cost like $1000 more?
Yeah, 64 tracks for a consumer app is ridiculous. I'm curious how they are going to deal with the fact that most people's machines will konk out long before they hit that number.
In logic, I rarely use more than ~15 or so software instruments (typically a bunch of exs24s, an fm7 or two and maybe one or two of my other synths) and about the same number of audio tracks. 64 tracks is more than enough for anything.
that'd be awesome(even if you couldn't ever use that many)
Remember, this is a pro music tool...
for the rest of us.
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
Yeah, but if 64 tracks is true, that's crazy, I thought it was 24 myself, but 64...whew.
that'd be awesome(even if you couldn't ever use that many)
I think it's totally cool to give a high track limit.
I like that garageband seems to be focused on giving a complete package for someone who doesn't do much computer audio while not simply delivering a totally crippled version of a higher-end DAW.
In other words, it looks like they decided to make a DAW that started with the needs of the consumer-level user in mind. That's pretty cool.
I was just curious.
I saw a little icon for a bagpipe, so that's totally cool!
I'm gonna have to go and buy an electric guitar again. Probably just a simple Danelectro Mod or Hodad model. I'm a Dano-nut.
And I sold my damn bass less than 6 months ago because I thought "ahh, when am I ever gonna get it out again?"
Argghhh...
I remember 7 string guitars being a bit of a trend a couple of years ago, among the Limp Korn set. Couldn't walk into a Barnes & Noble and NOT see 7-string Ibanez shit all over the cover of Guitar World and other mags.
http://www.conklinguitars.com/faceba...ss8/index.html
because more=better nyuk nyuk nyuk
"First Impressions of GarageBand
by Colin Winslow
While the iPod Minis are certainly the most controversial announcement of the keynote, to many of us, GararageBand is by far the most exciting. I spent a few minutes with an Apple rep in their towering booth playing with the new software. Its really is quite easy to create a decent sounding track from a series of loops. I made some sort of blues/harmonica thing with a vintage organ in about five minutes. The loops "ohtamatically" adjust their tempo to match your composition settings. Some electronic pianos offer a similar feature where you can lay down a rhythm track and choose tempo and key in which to play it. Unfortunately, while GarageBand lets you choose tempo, it has you locked into a particular key for each track. The only way around this appears to be to plug in your own instrument and do it yourself. "
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
www.conklinguitars.com
http://www.conklinguitars.com/faceba...ss8/index.html
because more=better nyuk nyuk nyuk
Them is some nice guitars.
Originally posted by BuonRotto
So each track has its own key. If you want that instrument to change keys, you'd have to add the same instrument in a new key in a new track, yes? A bit clumsy, but who can complain really.
I wonder if it's each track that has it's own key, or each composition. What I'm (pessimistically) guessing is that it automatically changes the pitch of whatever new track you stick in there to the key of whatever others loops are already there in the other tracks.
Originally posted by BRussell
I wonder if it's each track that has it's own key, or each composition. What I'm (pessimistically) guessing is that it automatically changes the pitch of whatever new track you stick in there to the key of whatever others loops are already there in the other tracks.
If you look closely at the loops selection list, there are various keys preset. It looks, instead, like you either grab a loops in a certain key, or assign it the key you want.
But that means it clearly has the capability to change keys - the question is, can you do it manually, at any point you want?
Originally posted by BRussell
Yeah but it says it automatically changes the key to match the other stuff. So if you've already put some stuff in F in there, and then you grab something that's in D, it'll change it to F before playing it.
But that means it clearly has the capability to change keys - the question is, can you do it manually, at any point you want?
Right. Surely, if they've put so much work into having this be automatic, there's an option to change the key manually somewhere.
Surely.
Oh wait. This is Apple we're talking about, isn't it.
http://www.apple.com/quicktime/qtv/mwsf04/
But although there were different loops and things happening, I'm pretty sure I didn't hear any chord changes.
Arghh! I've got to stop posting about this stuff. We'll find out in a week.