That's the whole point of this &*(%@#$ thread! There *IS* no issue!
Don't be a #$%^ head. Rechargeable batteries die. If it's 18 months or 36 months, I could care less. (Well not exactly true). The point is, once they die and they WILL die, there's no way to remedy the situation. You're stuck. Can you imagine Apple selling laptops where you couldn't replace the battery once it dies. Why is this any different?
What people fail to understand that NO battery works indefintely. None. These people either use disposable batteries, lose their batteries or upgrade and make them obsolete before they can figure out this fundamental fact of thermodynamics. How long has any battery lasted for anyone, how big was it, and how much charge did it hold? HOw often did you recharge it? I think if others think objectively about battery performance, they'll realize how good the iPod battery is.
The life of an iPod battery is very good, not revolutionary or unheard of, but very good given its size and amount of charge it can hold. People have unrealistic expectations for this thing. You cvan blame Apple all you want for not fulfilling your fantasy, but it's not their mistake in the first place (except for the late to the funeral replacement plan, that is their fault).
FWIW, I pressed the issue with another person today, and they seemed convinced that they wouldn't have a problem, and if they did, there's decent support. On the other hand, he heard that the battery lasts only 1 year, even less than the movie clowns said. It's a game of telephone. Pretty soon, people are going to be asking how much they have to pay for the battery that isn't included with the iPod.
Don't be a #$%^ head. Rechargeable batteries die. If it's 18 months or 36 months, I could care less. (Well not exactly true). The point is, once they die and they WILL die, there's no way to remedy the situation. You're stuck. Can you imagine Apple selling laptops where you couldn't replace the battery once it dies. Why is this any different?
The difference is that Apple will replace the battery for $99 (or for nothing if it's under warranty). You turn in your dying iPod, they give you back a like-new iPod.
In fact, there's even a third party who'll sell you one, if you feel like cracking the iPod open yourself - according to a MacInTouch reader, that involves a thin piece of stiff plastic and some patience, and an iPod that one hopes is out of warranty.
I think the problem with the iPod is that you can;t replace the battery yourself, but this probably makes it more strong and durable and also means it's less easy to screw up. The press in the UK seem to be concentrating on that you can't replace it yourself.
Batteries don't last forever. When you sell millions of batteries, some won't last as long as expected. If your battery dies, it can be replaced. The iPod battery failure rate is on par with other mass produced products like mobile phones.
Rechargeable batteries die. If it's 18 months or 36 months, I could care less. (Well not exactly true). The point is, once they die and they WILL die, there's no way to remedy the situation. You're stuck. Can you imagine Apple selling laptops where you couldn't replace the battery once it dies. Why is this any different?
How is this any different than ANY OTHER BLASTED MEDIA PLAYER OUT THERE WITH A RECHARGEABLE BATTERY?
Why the hell is Apple getting singled out?
And, you are utterly incorrect. The battery is replaceable. Go buy one for yourself and replace it. $49. You make it sound like it's soldered in, in a hermetic sealing.
If you don't have the skills or confidence to do it yourself, do like millions do with their car's oil and Jiffy Lube, and pay someone else to do it. Apple is one such source.
There is no issue.
Good god. Don't blame Apple because you have unrealistic expectations. Check the competition. Very few offer replaceable battery packs at all.
A casing that offered an *easier* way to open it to replace the battery would be nice - and also a lot weaker for daily wear and tear, drops, etc. This is a decent engineering tradeoff.
if you really dont think there any hope for the ipod, then jsut hand it over to one of us, along with your other apple products, and head on over to dell. we'll see you in 3 weeks.
The aren't any BAD issues with iPods at all. I've had my 5G'er for about 18months now.
I've dropped my iPod, more times then I would like to admit, it still works fine. I've charged the battery every two days (on average) and I've had no problems. This is an incredibly resiliant piece of kit.
500 charges... Claimed to last 18months.. WTF? That means you'd have to Charge it nearly every day (547.5 days) This is ridiculous. If you can listen to 8 hours of music a day, frankly, you're mad.
There are no problems with the iPod at all. Yes there may be a few bad'uns out there, but it is to be expected.
maybe Apple's reputation exceeds them... Perhaps Apple products are thought to be so reliable by the general public, that they think the iPod should be indestructable...
A casing that offered an *easier* way to open it to replace the battery would be nice - and also a lot weaker for daily wear and tear, drops, etc. This is a decent engineering tradeoff.
The aren't any BAD issues with iPods at all. I've had my 5G'er for about 18months now.
I've dropped my iPod, more times then I would like to admit, it still works fine. I've charged the battery every two days (on average) and I've had no problems. This is an incredibly resiliant piece of kit.
500 charges... Claimed to last 18months.. WTF? That means you'd have to Charge it nearly every day (547.5 days) This is ridiculous. If you can listen to 8 hours of music a day, frankly, you're mad.
There are no problems with the iPod at all. Yes there may be a few bad'uns out there, but it is to be expected.
maybe Apple's reputation exceeds them... Perhaps Apple products are thought to be so reliable by the general public, that they think the iPod should be indestructable...
I put my iPod in my dock whenever I'm home, so it never fully runs out of battery but it's constantly being charged, will this reduce the battery life? \
I put my iPod in my dock whenever I'm home, so it never fully runs out of battery but it's constantly being charged, will this reduce the battery life? \
Well, it 'supposedly' does decrease battery life... But, it isn't meant to be very noticeable. It depends on how much you run it down, before recharging. I would recommend running it down when you can.
To be honest, I don't think it makes a difference. I don't always run down my iPod battery. Having owned one for one and a half years, I have charged it partially many times, with no noticable 'performance hit'.
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Originally posted by Kickaha
WHAT battery issue?!?!
That's the whole point of this &*(%@#$ thread! There *IS* no issue!
Don't be a #$%^ head. Rechargeable batteries die. If it's 18 months or 36 months, I could care less. (Well not exactly true). The point is, once they die and they WILL die, there's no way to remedy the situation. You're stuck. Can you imagine Apple selling laptops where you couldn't replace the battery once it dies. Why is this any different?
The life of an iPod battery is very good, not revolutionary or unheard of, but very good given its size and amount of charge it can hold. People have unrealistic expectations for this thing. You cvan blame Apple all you want for not fulfilling your fantasy, but it's not their mistake in the first place (except for the late to the funeral replacement plan, that is their fault).
FWIW, I pressed the issue with another person today, and they seemed convinced that they wouldn't have a problem, and if they did, there's decent support. On the other hand, he heard that the battery lasts only 1 year, even less than the movie clowns said. It's a game of telephone. Pretty soon, people are going to be asking how much they have to pay for the battery that isn't included with the iPod.
Originally posted by Blue Shift
The point is, once they die and they WILL die, there's no way to remedy the situation.
There is a rememdy. You can buy a new battery.
Originally posted by BuonRotto
There is a rememdy. You can buy a new battery.
And what am I going to do with it?
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Can you imagine Apple selling laptops where you couldn't replace the battery once it dies. Why is this any different?
Because you *can* replace the battery when it dies?
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Don't be a #$%^ head. Rechargeable batteries die. If it's 18 months or 36 months, I could care less. (Well not exactly true). The point is, once they die and they WILL die, there's no way to remedy the situation. You're stuck. Can you imagine Apple selling laptops where you couldn't replace the battery once it dies. Why is this any different?
The difference is that Apple will replace the battery for $99 (or for nothing if it's under warranty). You turn in your dying iPod, they give you back a like-new iPod.
In fact, there's even a third party who'll sell you one, if you feel like cracking the iPod open yourself - according to a MacInTouch reader, that involves a thin piece of stiff plastic and some patience, and an iPod that one hopes is out of warranty.
(*=as a total aside, I'm mighty impressed Panther's built-in spell check has this word on file)
at any rate, what's the deal with the Dell DJ? how is it that a not-much-bigger-than-the-iPod device have nearly 2 times the battery life?
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
Panther's systemwide spellcheck > You
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
]at any rate, what's the deal with the Dell DJ? how is it that a not-much-bigger-than-the-iPod device have nearly 2 times the battery life?
People here have been saying that it has 2 batteries. That would do it!
Originally posted by Wrong Robot
Panther's systemwide spellcheck > You
I know the Spell checker is great, I use it whenever i can.
And what am I going to do with it?
Power your iPod.
News flash:
Batteries don't last forever. When you sell millions of batteries, some won't last as long as expected. If your battery dies, it can be replaced. The iPod battery failure rate is on par with other mass produced products like mobile phones.
There is no iPod battery 'problem'.
Originally posted by Blue Shift
Don't be a #$%^ head.
Wow. Touchy much?
Rechargeable batteries die. If it's 18 months or 36 months, I could care less. (Well not exactly true). The point is, once they die and they WILL die, there's no way to remedy the situation. You're stuck. Can you imagine Apple selling laptops where you couldn't replace the battery once it dies. Why is this any different?
How is this any different than ANY OTHER BLASTED MEDIA PLAYER OUT THERE WITH A RECHARGEABLE BATTERY?
Why the hell is Apple getting singled out?
And, you are utterly incorrect. The battery is replaceable. Go buy one for yourself and replace it. $49. You make it sound like it's soldered in, in a hermetic sealing.
If you don't have the skills or confidence to do it yourself, do like millions do with their car's oil and Jiffy Lube, and pay someone else to do it. Apple is one such source.
There is no issue.
Good god. Don't blame Apple because you have unrealistic expectations. Check the competition. Very few offer replaceable battery packs at all.
A casing that offered an *easier* way to open it to replace the battery would be nice - and also a lot weaker for daily wear and tear, drops, etc. This is a decent engineering tradeoff.
I've dropped my iPod, more times then I would like to admit, it still works fine. I've charged the battery every two days (on average) and I've had no problems. This is an incredibly resiliant piece of kit.
500 charges... Claimed to last 18months.. WTF? That means you'd have to Charge it nearly every day (547.5 days) This is ridiculous. If you can listen to 8 hours of music a day, frankly, you're mad.
There are no problems with the iPod at all. Yes there may be a few bad'uns out there, but it is to be expected.
maybe Apple's reputation exceeds them... Perhaps Apple products are thought to be so reliable by the general public, that they think the iPod should be indestructable...
Originally posted by Kickaha
A casing that offered an *easier* way to open it to replace the battery would be nice - and also a lot weaker for daily wear and tear, drops, etc. This is a decent engineering tradeoff.
Didn't i say that earlier?
Originally posted by mattyj
The aren't any BAD issues with iPods at all. I've had my 5G'er for about 18months now.
I've dropped my iPod, more times then I would like to admit, it still works fine. I've charged the battery every two days (on average) and I've had no problems. This is an incredibly resiliant piece of kit.
500 charges... Claimed to last 18months.. WTF? That means you'd have to Charge it nearly every day (547.5 days) This is ridiculous. If you can listen to 8 hours of music a day, frankly, you're mad.
There are no problems with the iPod at all. Yes there may be a few bad'uns out there, but it is to be expected.
maybe Apple's reputation exceeds them... Perhaps Apple products are thought to be so reliable by the general public, that they think the iPod should be indestructable...
I put my iPod in my dock whenever I'm home, so it never fully runs out of battery but it's constantly being charged, will this reduce the battery life?
Originally posted by MacCrazy
Didn't i say that earlier?
I thought it had been said repeatedly, but apparently some people just keep missing it, willfully or not.
Originally posted by MacCrazy
I put my iPod in my dock whenever I'm home, so it never fully runs out of battery but it's constantly being charged, will this reduce the battery life?
Well, it 'supposedly' does decrease battery life... But, it isn't meant to be very noticeable. It depends on how much you run it down, before recharging. I would recommend running it down when you can.
To be honest, I don't think it makes a difference. I don't always run down my iPod battery. Having owned one for one and a half years, I have charged it partially many times, with no noticable 'performance hit'.