Eradicate Pit Bulls!
By requiring a license or by forced extermination. How many people are mauled or killed by these engineered killers every year? There should be an expensive licensing program that prevents most people from owning them, and if anyone is found with one in their possession sans license the animal should be put down immediately. I'm tired of all the babies, adults and elderly who fall prey to these animals - not to mention other people's pets.
A Pit Bull is the urban equivalent of owning a Corvette. Sorry about your penis dude.
The latest victim lost both hands:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/02/1....ap/index.html
EDIT: Wait, better yet, the license pays for POTENTIAL DAMAGE and the owner has to be registered as owning a dangerous weapon AND put a sign prominently in front of their house advertising the fact they own that animal.
A Pit Bull is the urban equivalent of owning a Corvette. Sorry about your penis dude.
The latest victim lost both hands:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/02/1....ap/index.html
EDIT: Wait, better yet, the license pays for POTENTIAL DAMAGE and the owner has to be registered as owning a dangerous weapon AND put a sign prominently in front of their house advertising the fact they own that animal.
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Next you'll have me licensing my tigers and lions!
Punish the owners, not the dogs.
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By "not the dogs" I mean we should not ban a species because it was poorly-raised. All dogs that attack humans should be immediately killed.
Originally posted by JimDreamworx
Nice idea, but a slippery slope.
Next you'll have me licensing my tigers and lions!
No, because of the second amendment, you can have all the tigers and lions you want, we just won't sell you the food for them.
Nick
sorry, but you can raise ANY dog to attack people if you work at it. hell, take any terrier, teach it to attack people and leave it alone with a kid and you'll end up with a dead kid.
the problem isn't the dogs, it's the people.
the only thing that has any credence about pit bulls is that they can be naturally dog aggressive. that doesn't mean they're people aggressive, and you have to train them to be so.
maybe we should ban fire because it burns people. or german shepards. or cars. or any one of a million things that if misused/mistreated will hurt those around them.
I'm sure that I'm way behind the curve on this topic; that there simply must be some families of victims of pit bull attacks who have banded together to try to assert legislation for these dogs......but I'll bet that there is a statistic out there that shows that there are just as many bites/attacks from other breeds.
Slippery slope? You're right. But it certainly couldn't hurt to belay down and sink a few safety posts to help guide us through this. If there truly is an above-average incident of attacks by pit bulls then I would support legislation to necessitate that these animals be licensed, and that those licenses primarily go into an insurance policy that will begin to address the victims' medical and burial costs.
Of course, I am biased as one of my very close friends was attacked by a Pit Bull when she was four years old, and caused permanent scarring on her face and arms.
We would love to get a caracal, but unfortunately they are a lynx and basically banned anywhere around chicago. Nevermind that they are much less dangerous than a poodle, and while a caracal would likely kick a pit bull's ass, I still have yet to find an incident of one attacking a human in the US.
The big problem with pit bulls is dogfighting. Here in chicago it is a serious problem, but is barely dealt with. Maybe banning them in the city would help. I don't know.
My cousin has a pit bull. She loves it, but unless it views you as dominant it is mean. If she wasn't smart about it that dog would have already needed to be put down.
the real problem is that people think they're bad ass dogs, and these same people think that if they own one they'll be a bad ass too. but then their dog doesn't try to attack anyone when they first get it. so the same people have to spend months training it to be the bad ass dog they originally imagined they were getting.
in the end, the people who bought the dog, and bought the dog for the wrong reasons end up with the dog they wanted originally.
the problem is perception. because people think they're a dangerous breed, people who want a dangerous dog buy them. of course, any person who buys a dog specifically because they want a dangerous animal around is going to raise that animal the completely wrong way. so on and so forth.
rottweilers went through this, dobermans went through this, to some extent sheppards go through this (although their being police dogs helps)
when a breed is perceived as dangerous, there is an increase in attacks by that breed. not because the breed is suddenly more aggressive and likely to attack, but because idiots start buying them who try to raise them to attack people.
The only way I ever saw him get aggressive was when my sister was being threatened by a former landlord in front of him. Pit bulls are very obedient dogs, very loyal and protective of their owners. That makes them very trainable, including as attack dogs, but they are not attack dogs by birth.
The only thing we can't seem to train Satchmo to do is to "come here." We always have to keep him on a leash because he wants to meet everyone.
Originally posted by _ alliance _
drewprops, i'm sorry, but you know absolutely nothing about dogs. shut up before you make an even bigger ass out of yourself. thanks.
Take some of your own advice here, pal.
I don't agree with him at all either, but not everyone is going to have the same opinion. That's what gets DISCUSSIONS going. Calling someone an ass for having an opinion makes YOU like an ass.
BTW, we owned a female pitbull for 11 years, and kept one of her pups, a male, who lived for 9 years. Some of the best mannered dogs you'll ever meet.
We recently lost our female Rottie to cancer, and that's another hated breed. She was the best dog I ever owned... I don't think I've ever seen a calmer, better trained dog. No reservations at all about letting our baby play with her.
The people saying it's the people and not the dogs are 100% right IMO. There should be INSANE fines & jail time for people who can't control these animals.
Originally posted by murbot
Take some of your own advice here, pal.
I don't agree with him at all either, but not everyone is going to have the same opinion. That's what gets DISCUSSIONS going. Calling someone an ass for having an opinion makes YOU like an ass.
BTW, we owned a female pitbull for 11 years, and kept one of her pups, a male, who lived for 9 years. Some of the best mannered dogs you'll ever meet.
We recently lost our female Rottie to cancer, and that's another hated breed. She was the best dog I ever owned... I don't think I've ever seen a calmer, better trained dog. No reservations at all about letting our baby play with her.
The people saying it's the people and not the dogs are 100% right IMO. There should be INSANE fines & jail time for people who can't control these animals.
when people go around spouting opinions based on false information then they need to stop. how do you think people, places, things, etc get such bad reputations? just like macs. people go around spouting c**p they know nothing about and other people believe it. i'm sorry, but i am not very tolerant about such things, especially with animals, which is my livelihood.
Pitbulls HAVE certain traits . . . they are not merely a computer . . they are not garbage in garbage out - - they are garbage in mix it up with an instinct to bite and hold and tear and mutilate then garbage out
burn every last one in gigantic ovens the size of Delaware!!
well, maybe not, but they should be stricktly controled and very hard to own, and virtually impossible to own if you also have kids
Any dog will be vicious if trained to be so, or not socialised towards humans. Just ask Diane Whipple. Oh wait, you can't. She's dead.
they are garbage in mix it up with an instinct to bite and hold and tear and mutilate then garbage out
and this would be based on what facts?
do you have either personal or professional experience with pit bulls?
Originally posted by alcimedes
and this would be based on what facts?
do you have either personal or professional experience with pit bulls?
Um . . . the whole notion of animal instinct, their jaws and a glorious history of threads and articles relating to mauling number whatever
and besides:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/West/02/1....ap/index.html
BURN THEM ALL!!!
. . . I jest, I hope you realize, though not about liscensing for parents
Originally posted by alcimedes
you know they don't actually have locking jaws, right?
Well. you have the luxory of semantics, but I'm sure bauman has a different experience
as do many people and many other dogs