Don't come back here and say I didn't warn you....
Maybe you should post the note *here* first. We'll help you write it.
Post it here first? I'd have you all punch me in the face, slam my head into a shit-filled toilet and dragged 2000 miles behind a Boeing 747...before I would post that shit. It is not at all intimate, it is just unnecessary, especially when you dont really know me. I simply asked for advice. I have to admit that your strong opposition to such a note is making me more nervous...i dont know what to do.\
Post it here first? I'd have you all punch me in the face, slam my head into a shit-filled toilet and dragged 2000 miles behind a Boeing 747...before I would post that shit. It is not at all intimate, it is just unnecessary, especially when you dont really know me. I simply asked for advice. I have to admit that your strong opposition to such a note is making me more nervous...i dont know what to do.\
Here's the thing, Chris. If she's smiling and making eye contact (and you said she's done this more than once), she's already communicating with you in the only way she can - without seeming brazen. Believe me, a girl is VERY careful NOT to smile at a guy unless she's interested in attracting his attention. This caution is a survival mechanism for females - literally.
If she had never smiled at you, then I would say the note might be worth a try, especially if notes have worked for you before. Personally, I think this girl likes you already, and she'll be receptive to whatever means you choose. So don't worry about it so much. Just do what seems most comfortable to you. When all is said and done, we all just have to be ourselves. Right? We don't really have much choice in the matter, do we?
But no matter what you decide to do, think of it this way: what's the worst that can happen? She might say 'no'. This is a survivable outcome. Life goes on. You'll meet tons of girls over the next few years. This will be no big deal six months from now, even if she says no.....though I don't think she will.
These are the scary little crises we all have to face in life. We have to give ourselves a big kick in the ass and force ourselves to do whatever it is. This is true for everyone, Chris, believe me. It's all part of being human. Turn the dread into excitement. Picture something in the past that you dreaded doing but that turned out well. Picture her sick in bed with a bad cold and a big red nose. haha. Like when people are terrified about a big job interview, they picture the boss in his shorts or sitting on the toilet. Kinda takes everyone down a peg, know what I mean?
Don't listen to Carol A. She is a woman. They are out to get you. They are sly like that. Telepathic communication. They revel when men's hearts are ripped from their chest... Seen it a million times, don't trust em. Don't ever trust em...
Here's the thing, Chris. If she's smiling and making eye contact (and you said she's done this more than once), she's already communicating with you in the only way she can - without seeming brazen. Believe me, a girl is VERY careful NOT to smile at a guy unless she's interested in attracting his attention. This caution is a survival mechanism for females - literally.
If she had never smiled at you, then I would say the note might be worth a try, especially if notes have worked for you before. Personally, I think this girl likes you already, and she'll be receptive to whatever means you choose. So don't worry about it so much. Just do what seems most comfortable to you. When all is said and done, we all just have to be ourselves. Right? We don't really have much choice in the matter, do we?
But no matter what you decide to do, think of it this way: what's the worst that can happen? She might say 'no'. This is a survivable outcome. Life goes on. You'll meet tons of girls over the next few years. This will be no big deal six months from now, even if she says no.....though I don't think she will.
These are the scary little crises we all have to face in life. We have to give ourselves a big kick in the ass and force ourselves to do whatever it is. This is true for everyone, Chris, believe me. It's all part of being human. Turn the dread into excitement. Picture something in the past that you dreaded doing but that turned out well. Picture her sick in bed with a bad cold and a big red nose. haha. Like when people are terrified about a big job interview, they picture the boss in his shorts or sitting on the toilet. Kinda takes everyone down a peg, know what I mean?
Don't listen to Carol A. She is a woman. They are out to get you. They are sly like that. Telepathic communication. They revel when men's hearts are ripped from their chest... Seen it a million times, don't trust em. Don't ever trust em...
WHAT???
WHAT????
I know you're kidding, so that will save me the trouble of having to smack you around.
I am good, honest and true, Billybobsky. I never hurt people intentionally. But there *are* indeed some rotten women in the world, just as there are rotten men. There are plenty of people, male and female, who *use* others. Such people are beneath contempt, imo.
OTOH, there are also wonderful people in the world. In our journey through life, we each encounter both types of individuals.
I don't have a solution to the problem of good and evil in mankind. I think most people are mainly trying to find what seems like happiness to them. When those people hurt us, we should let it go, and chalk it up to their shallowness as human beings. Dwelling on their treachery just drags us down even more and wastes our energies. It's easier and less painful to just *let it go* and get on with life, don't you think?
Anyway, that's how *I* see things.
Gosh, I'll be a nervous wreck till I find out how things go for Chris tomorrow.
When I was in high school there was teh most beautifull girl that had a crush on me . . and me on her . . . we had a mutual friend who told us what we thought. I was way too shy back then to talk with her directly and do the smart thing.
This went on for about A YEAR!
and I was madly madly in love
we were sophemores.
Then one day the STAR of the football team, QB and also 4.0 student, and a Senior started going out with her
I was so crushed that the rest of my High School life was a misery . . .
(in the long run though . . it changed me into a much better person as it made me think deeply about the kind of person that I wanted to be)
Anyway, point is 'it is better to regret something that you did than something that you didn't do'
anyway: you have three choices:
1). Become super popular, excellent in sports, rich, cool and aloof, and stylish, and arrogant and then ask her out to the prom.
2). Be yourself and just talk to her: in fact just say . . .'hey, do you want to talk about something?'
then she'll say 'what? . . . like what?"
"oh, I don't know . . . what did you have for dinner last night?'
"I can't remember"
"I can't either . . . but I'm sure it was good . . . did you see (insert a safe non-political non-religious movie here) etc etc . . then ask
3). Just say "hey, the Prom is for Dork-Conformists . . . do you wanna go out that night to a movie and a Denny's just for fun?"
That was a nice post CarolA....now tell us what REALLY happens when a guy passes a note to you and you're....um....'flattered'.
While your at it, you might as well tell us why you all take so damn long in the toilet. TOGETHER.
Hi 709 -
Are you really in Europe? You sound very American.
If someone were to write me a note, I guess the logical thing to do would be to write back on the same piece of paper. What I *said* in the note would depend on the guy himself, of course, and what he originally wrote.
If I am 'flattered', I suppose that means he is attractive-looking from across the room. Obviously the next thing is that we would have a conversation.
I like guys who are smart. That's the *absolute* first necessity. If he's not smart, there's no point in continuing the converstion beyond a polite and courteous amount of time, no matter how good-looking he is. If he's not smart, I'm just not interested. No point in wasting his time or mine.
If he *is* smart, then is he a nice person? Does he have a good sense of humor? Does he have integrity (a bit hard to ascertain in one conversation, but not totally impossible)? Does he have true self-confidence...that quiet strength that doesn't require power plays and control of others. Does he seem honest, good and true?
I don't really know how to answer your question. I must truly *like and respect* someone in order to become involved with him. Men who are truly self-confident don't put women down or seek to control them. They would want to like and respect the woman, just as I would a man.
I probably have different priorities from most women, because I'm not really interested in getting married. I did that once, and once was enough. I'm not looking for someone to 'take care of me'. I can do that for myself. So it comes down to a relationship that's a deep and true human connection between two people of the opposite sex. Two people who like and respect each other.
I could go on forever on the topic of male-female relationships.
About the restroom situation: 1) there may not be a line 'outside' the women's restroom, but there often is one 'inside'. 2) Paper toilet seat covers must be used, so that slows things down. 3) Then make-up must be repaired, which takes a few minutes. 4) If we go together, a conversation will inevitably arise, probably about YOU! And that slows things down a tad. haha.
Dude, if you give her a note I'm gonna punch you. You might as well give her a link to this thread. Just find some stupid crap to make conversation with her about a few times, and one of the few times let that conversation lead into the hall after class and casually ask "Hey, what are you doing this weekend? Me and some friend's blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...". Dude, a note...?
Dude, if you give her a note I'm gonna punch you. You might as well give her a link to this thread. Just find some stupid crap to make conversation with her about a few times, and one of the few times let that conversation lead into the hall after class and casually ask "Hey, what are you doing this weekend? Me and some friend's blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...". Dude, a note...?
I love this thread.
It has emotion, tension, drama - *and* it's being lived as we speak.
We're rootin' for ya, Chris!
(Damn! The suspense is killing me!)
P.S. I have a feeling Chris is sorry he mentioned this situation to any of us. \
Comments
Originally posted by 709
Maybe you should post the note *here* first. We'll help you write it.
Post it here first? I'd have you all punch me in the face, slam my head into a shit-filled toilet and dragged 2000 miles behind a Boeing 747...before I would post that shit. It is not at all intimate, it is just unnecessary, especially when you dont really know me. I simply asked for advice. I have to admit that your strong opposition to such a note is making me more nervous...i dont know what to do.
Originally posted by thuh Freak
...laughyness...
heh heh
Grrrrrreat advice indeed, Freak.
M-tosh, I can never connect to any pictures in your album on .Mac. Is it working? Do remove them quickly? I can always see the movies okay though
<<<<<<Edit: Ignore me, I didn't see page 2 of this beast of a thread>>>>>>
Originally posted by johnq
Trust me. You are deadmeat if any future girl see pictures of past girls.
Put any pics in a lockbox and on disk put them in 128 bit encrypted Disk Images. Better safe than sorry.
Originally posted by SonOfSylvanus
heh heh
Grrrrrreat advice indeed, Freak.
M-tosh, I can never connect to any pictures in your album on .Mac. Is it working? Do remove them quickly? I can always see the movies okay though
<<<<<<Edit: Ignore me, I didn't see page 2 of this beast of a thread>>>>>>
Must have been removed by me earlier, sorry.
Originally posted by Messiahtosh
Post it here first? I'd have you all punch me in the face, slam my head into a shit-filled toilet and dragged 2000 miles behind a Boeing 747...before I would post that shit. It is not at all intimate, it is just unnecessary, especially when you dont really know me. I simply asked for advice. I have to admit that your strong opposition to such a note is making me more nervous...i dont know what to do.
Here's the thing, Chris. If she's smiling and making eye contact (and you said she's done this more than once), she's already communicating with you in the only way she can - without seeming brazen. Believe me, a girl is VERY careful NOT to smile at a guy unless she's interested in attracting his attention. This caution is a survival mechanism for females - literally.
If she had never smiled at you, then I would say the note might be worth a try, especially if notes have worked for you before. Personally, I think this girl likes you already, and she'll be receptive to whatever means you choose. So don't worry about it so much. Just do what seems most comfortable to you. When all is said and done, we all just have to be ourselves. Right? We don't really have much choice in the matter, do we?
But no matter what you decide to do, think of it this way: what's the worst that can happen? She might say 'no'. This is a survivable outcome. Life goes on. You'll meet tons of girls over the next few years. This will be no big deal six months from now, even if she says no.....though I don't think she will.
These are the scary little crises we all have to face in life. We have to give ourselves a big kick in the ass and force ourselves to do whatever it is. This is true for everyone, Chris, believe me. It's all part of being human. Turn the dread into excitement. Picture something in the past that you dreaded doing but that turned out well. Picture her sick in bed with a bad cold and a big red nose. haha. Like when people are terrified about a big job interview, they picture the boss in his shorts or sitting on the toilet. Kinda takes everyone down a peg, know what I mean?
Originally posted by Carol A
Here's the thing, Chris. If she's smiling and making eye contact (and you said she's done this more than once), she's already communicating with you in the only way she can - without seeming brazen. Believe me, a girl is VERY careful NOT to smile at a guy unless she's interested in attracting his attention. This caution is a survival mechanism for females - literally.
If she had never smiled at you, then I would say the note might be worth a try, especially if notes have worked for you before. Personally, I think this girl likes you already, and she'll be receptive to whatever means you choose. So don't worry about it so much. Just do what seems most comfortable to you. When all is said and done, we all just have to be ourselves. Right? We don't really have much choice in the matter, do we?
But no matter what you decide to do, think of it this way: what's the worst that can happen? She might say 'no'. This is a survivable outcome. Life goes on. You'll meet tons of girls over the next few years. This will be no big deal six months from now, even if she says no.....though I don't think she will.
These are the scary little crises we all have to face in life. We have to give ourselves a big kick in the ass and force ourselves to do whatever it is. This is true for everyone, Chris, believe me. It's all part of being human. Turn the dread into excitement. Picture something in the past that you dreaded doing but that turned out well. Picture her sick in bed with a bad cold and a big red nose. haha. Like when people are terrified about a big job interview, they picture the boss in his shorts or sitting on the toilet. Kinda takes everyone down a peg, know what I mean?
He could just give her a human heart instead.
While your at it, you might as well tell us why you all take so damn long in the toilet. TOGETHER.
Originally posted by Messiahtosh
What does that even mean?
Your heart. He was talking about your heart.
Originally posted by BR
He could just give her a human heart instead.
Dude, your so weird. Thats why I like reading your posts. Keep up the good work!
Originally posted by billybobsky
Don't listen to Carol A. She is a woman. They are out to get you. They are sly like that. Telepathic communication. They revel when men's hearts are ripped from their chest... Seen it a million times, don't trust em. Don't ever trust em...
WHAT???
WHAT????
I know you're kidding, so that will save me the trouble of having to smack you around.
I am good, honest and true, Billybobsky. I never hurt people intentionally. But there *are* indeed some rotten women in the world, just as there are rotten men. There are plenty of people, male and female, who *use* others. Such people are beneath contempt, imo.
OTOH, there are also wonderful people in the world. In our journey through life, we each encounter both types of individuals.
I don't have a solution to the problem of good and evil in mankind. I think most people are mainly trying to find what seems like happiness to them. When those people hurt us, we should let it go, and chalk it up to their shallowness as human beings. Dwelling on their treachery just drags us down even more and wastes our energies. It's easier and less painful to just *let it go* and get on with life, don't you think?
Anyway, that's how *I* see things.
Gosh, I'll be a nervous wreck till I find out how things go for Chris tomorrow.
This went on for about A YEAR!
and I was madly madly in love
we were sophemores.
Then one day the STAR of the football team, QB and also 4.0 student, and a Senior started going out with her
I was so crushed that the rest of my High School life was a misery . . .
(in the long run though . . it changed me into a much better person as it made me think deeply about the kind of person that I wanted to be)
Anyway, point is 'it is better to regret something that you did than something that you didn't do'
anyway: you have three choices:
1). Become super popular, excellent in sports, rich, cool and aloof, and stylish, and arrogant and then ask her out to the prom.
2). Be yourself and just talk to her: in fact just say . . .'hey, do you want to talk about something?'
then she'll say 'what? . . . like what?"
"oh, I don't know . . . what did you have for dinner last night?'
"I can't remember"
"I can't either . . . but I'm sure it was good . . . did you see (insert a safe non-political non-religious movie here) etc etc . . then ask
3). Just say "hey, the Prom is for Dork-Conformists . . . do you wanna go out that night to a movie and a Denny's just for fun?"
just some thoughts
DO NOT WRITE A NOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Women mature faster than boys . . .and she will allready think that notes are for 'BOYS'
be a man and talk to her.
Originally posted by Messiahtosh
I'll sac up and just ask. Fuvk it b.
good idea
and good night
Originally posted by 709
That was a nice post CarolA....now tell us what REALLY happens when a guy passes a note to you and you're....um....'flattered'.
While your at it, you might as well tell us why you all take so damn long in the toilet. TOGETHER.
Hi 709 -
Are you really in Europe? You sound very American.
If someone were to write me a note, I guess the logical thing to do would be to write back on the same piece of paper. What I *said* in the note would depend on the guy himself, of course, and what he originally wrote.
If I am 'flattered', I suppose that means he is attractive-looking from across the room. Obviously the next thing is that we would have a conversation.
I like guys who are smart. That's the *absolute* first necessity. If he's not smart, there's no point in continuing the converstion beyond a polite and courteous amount of time, no matter how good-looking he is. If he's not smart, I'm just not interested. No point in wasting his time or mine.
If he *is* smart, then is he a nice person? Does he have a good sense of humor? Does he have integrity (a bit hard to ascertain in one conversation, but not totally impossible)? Does he have true self-confidence...that quiet strength that doesn't require power plays and control of others. Does he seem honest, good and true?
I don't really know how to answer your question. I must truly *like and respect* someone in order to become involved with him. Men who are truly self-confident don't put women down or seek to control them. They would want to like and respect the woman, just as I would a man.
I probably have different priorities from most women, because I'm not really interested in getting married. I did that once, and once was enough. I'm not looking for someone to 'take care of me'. I can do that for myself. So it comes down to a relationship that's a deep and true human connection between two people of the opposite sex. Two people who like and respect each other.
I could go on forever on the topic of male-female relationships.
About the restroom situation: 1) there may not be a line 'outside' the women's restroom, but there often is one 'inside'. 2) Paper toilet seat covers must be used, so that slows things down. 3) Then make-up must be repaired, which takes a few minutes. 4) If we go together, a conversation will inevitably arise, probably about YOU! And that slows things down a tad. haha.
Anything else ya wanna know?
Originally posted by iBrowse
Dude, if you give her a note I'm gonna punch you. You might as well give her a link to this thread. Just find some stupid crap to make conversation with her about a few times, and one of the few times let that conversation lead into the hall after class and casually ask "Hey, what are you doing this weekend? Me and some friend's blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...". Dude, a note...?
I love this thread.
It has emotion, tension, drama - *and* it's being lived as we speak.
We're rootin' for ya, Chris!
(Damn! The suspense is killing me!)
P.S. I have a feeling Chris is sorry he mentioned this situation to any of us.
Well the good news is, I didnt use a note...the OTHER good news is, she wants to hang out this weekend. I'm happy.