This picture shows the same behavior by apparently all black men jumping up and down on caucasian naked pyramids in art studios every where. This is a systemic problem and should be dealt with, soon.
Where is the outrage.
Models and photographers are messed up and should have never learned how to pose or take picture in the place.
Meanwhile, U.S. troops_ who served at Abu Ghraib said Thursday that sex and alcoholism were commonplace among guards even though they were forbidden. Soldiers even set up a candle-lit room for sex shows, they said.
?There was lots of affairs. There was all kinds of adultery and alcoholism and all kinds of crap going on,? Dave Bischel, a National Guardsman with the 870th Military Police unit, told Reuters. Bischel returned home last month after service at Abu Ghraib.
The statements added to the reactions of lawmakers who viewed the hundreds of photos and video clips shot at Abu Ghraib. The New York Post quoted a member of Congress as saying on condition of anonymity that among the materials were numerous images showing England having sex with numerous partners.
?It appeared to be consensual,? the lawmaker said. The newspaper quoted another lawmaker as saying, ?Almost everybody was naked all the time.?
Bischel told Reuters: ?There was a bed found in one of the abandoned buildings. There was a mattress on the ground. They had chairs all circled around it and candles all over the place. Chairs [were] around it obviously for an audience.?
Sex rumors were rampant among those serving in Abu Ghraib. ?One of the female soldiers supposedly had sex in a gang bang,? said Terry Stowe, another California MP who has since returned home. ?From time to time, things like this would happen.?
Some call it abusive and embarrassing, some call it art.
In another context, you may have a point. But that's just such an off-topic and untenable connection you're trying to make between willing participants in an artwork and the coerced prisoners at abu ghraib. Those prisoners didn't choose to subject themselves to various forms of torture. So let's leave it at that and move on-- let's focus on the actual topic at hand-- and not try to hijack the thread.
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg IMO.
For what its worth, I see the abuse of prisoners as worse than Bergs death, For the simple reason, we did it, and we have lowered ourselves to the kind of level we'd expect from low-life scum of the earth. That IS worse.
Some call it abusive and embarrassing, some call it art.
Hey, who remembers those two security contractors who got killed in Fallujah and strung up on that bridge? Remind anyone of Damien Hirst's meat sculptures?
Heh.
Oops. Bad comparison. They were American. Not Iraqi.
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg IMO.
I don't see them as even being close, so no I haven't compared the two.
But that is another thread.
You seem to find humour in the suffering of others. I figure it's likely, as a sociopath, you'll be able to find some humour in the execution of Nic Berg and find a fitting googled picture to prove just how funny you are.
Your own moral indignation is far superceded by the indignation felt by the Iraqi detainees.
For what its worth, I see the abuse of prisoners as worse than Bergs death, For the simple reason, we did it, and we have lowered ourselves to the kind of level we'd expect from low-life scum of the earth. That IS worse.
Who is we?
Not me or anyone I know.
I would personally confront anyone I know for such things.
Don't say we, those guys are not WE!
They will be taken care of in a fair and quick manner. They do not represent all of the good and upright people that I know.
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg.
Considering that at least two (and possibly as many as ten) of the prisoners who have died in US custory are being treated as having been murdered...I'd say that yes, the abuse of prisoners is on the same level. Murder is murder.
My response to Luca in the Nick Berg thread (modified slightly)
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Originally posted by NaplesX
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg IMO.
I don't see them as even being close, so no I haven't compared the two.
But that is another thread.
Not even close?
I think you forget that we killed this guy-- and other undocumented prisoners who never received numbers. Right now, the Army is investigating 25 suspicious deaths at Abu Ghraib. Again, the scale of abuses at that camp is much worse than you and other Americans may realize. Conversely, it's something that many vengeful, militant Arabs clearly understand. I would read the indispensable Seymour Hersh's latest piece, "Chain of Command" for a good background.
You seem to find humour in the suffering of others. I figure it's likely, as a sociopath, you'll be able to find some humour in the execution of Nic Berg and find a fitting googled picture to prove just how funny you are.
Your own moral indignation is far superceded by the indignation felt by the Iraqi detainees.
Oh please get off the pulpit.
I found that picture in a magazine called Creativity that we get at where I work. Everyone here found at least a little humor in the similarity, not the original acts. This included some left leaners.
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I'd comment on your post NaplesX, but I cant tell if you're being serious or taking the piss? Is England at the bottom of that pile?
Originally posted by NaplesX
This picture shows the same behavior by apparently all black men jumping up and down on caucasian naked pyramids in art studios every where. This is a systemic problem and should be dealt with, soon.
Where is the outrage.
Models and photographers are messed up and should have never learned how to pose or take picture in the place.
https://www.phaidon.com/images/spreads/0714843652_6.jpg
At least one of those so-called caucasians is black, bringing into question both you ability to decipher and the significance of race in that image...
Originally posted by FormerLurker
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Meanwhile, U.S. troops_ who served at Abu Ghraib said Thursday that sex and alcoholism were commonplace among guards even though they were forbidden. Soldiers even set up a candle-lit room for sex shows, they said.
?There was lots of affairs. There was all kinds of adultery and alcoholism and all kinds of crap going on,? Dave Bischel, a National Guardsman with the 870th Military Police unit, told Reuters. Bischel returned home last month after service at Abu Ghraib.
The statements added to the reactions of lawmakers who viewed the hundreds of photos and video clips shot at Abu Ghraib. The New York Post quoted a member of Congress as saying on condition of anonymity that among the materials were numerous images showing England having sex with numerous partners.
?It appeared to be consensual,? the lawmaker said. The newspaper quoted another lawmaker as saying, ?Almost everybody was naked all the time.?
Bischel told Reuters: ?There was a bed found in one of the abandoned buildings. There was a mattress on the ground. They had chairs all circled around it and candles all over the place. Chairs [were] around it obviously for an audience.?
Sex rumors were rampant among those serving in Abu Ghraib. ?One of the female soldiers supposedly had sex in a gang bang,? said Terry Stowe, another California MP who has since returned home. ?From time to time, things like this would happen.?
Clearly its Satanic Ritual Abuse
Originally posted by MarcUK
I just wanna see the pics of England having sex with multiple partners.
I'd comment on your post NaplesX, but I cant tell if you're being serious or taking the piss? Is England at the bottom of that pile?
I thought it was funny the abuse that took place in Iraq look hauntingly like the art in that picture. I thought it was humorous.
Maybe they used the same photographer or they went to the same school, who knows. Maybe its a trend.
Originally posted by NaplesX
I thought it was funny the abuse that took place in Iraq look hauntingly like the art in that picture. I thought it was humorous.
Maybe they used the same photographer or they went to the same school, who knows. Maybe its a trend.
I read an article about an art show openning in Baghdada that has sculptures based on the 'pyramid' . . . its about the US abuse of Iraq
Originally posted by NaplesX
I thought it was funny the abuse that took place in Iraq look hauntingly like the art in that picture. I thought it was humorous.
Maybe they used the same photographer or they went to the same school, who knows. Maybe its a trend.
Those damned Egyptians, huh? Throw some blame the Aztec way, too, I suppose. Friggin' pyramids. What did they start!!
Have you compared Nic Berg's execution to any films you've seen recently and found humour in that, too?
Originally posted by NaplesX
I thought it was funny the abuse that took place in Iraq look hauntingly like the art in that picture. I thought it was humorous.
Absolutely fucking hilarious
Originally posted by MarcUK
Absolutely fucking hilarious
Some call it abusive and embarrassing, some call it art.
Originally posted by NaplesX
Some call it abusive and embarrassing, some call it art.
... and some find it hilarious, but just the sociopaths.
Originally posted by audiopollution
Those damned Egyptians, huh? Throw some blame the Aztec way, too, I suppose. Friggin' pyramids. What did they start!!
Have you compared Nic Berg's execution to any films you've seen recently and found humour in that, too?
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg IMO.
I don't see them as even being close, so no I haven't compared the two.
But that is another thread.
Originally posted by NaplesX
Some call it abusive and embarrassing, some call it art.
Whatever it is, the participants had a choice to receive a broom in the anus.
Originally posted by NaplesX
Some call it abusive and embarrassing, some call it art.
In another context, you may have a point. But that's just such an off-topic and untenable connection you're trying to make between willing participants in an artwork and the coerced prisoners at abu ghraib. Those prisoners didn't choose to subject themselves to various forms of torture. So let's leave it at that and move on-- let's focus on the actual topic at hand-- and not try to hijack the thread.
Originally posted by NaplesX
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg IMO.
For what its worth, I see the abuse of prisoners as worse than Bergs death, For the simple reason, we did it, and we have lowered ourselves to the kind of level we'd expect from low-life scum of the earth. That IS worse.
Originally posted by NaplesX
Some call it abusive and embarrassing, some call it art.
Hey, who remembers those two security contractors who got killed in Fallujah and strung up on that bridge? Remind anyone of Damien Hirst's meat sculptures?
Heh.
Oops. Bad comparison. They were American. Not Iraqi.
Their dignity actually matters. Sorry.
Originally posted by NaplesX
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg IMO.
I don't see them as even being close, so no I haven't compared the two.
But that is another thread.
No, let's have it in this thread.
Why is the brutal killing of an American (with images) worse then the brutal killing of Iraqis (with images)?
Originally posted by NaplesX
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg IMO.
I don't see them as even being close, so no I haven't compared the two.
But that is another thread.
You seem to find humour in the suffering of others. I figure it's likely, as a sociopath, you'll be able to find some humour in the execution of Nic Berg and find a fitting googled picture to prove just how funny you are.
Your own moral indignation is far superceded by the indignation felt by the Iraqi detainees.
Originally posted by MarcUK
For what its worth, I see the abuse of prisoners as worse than Bergs death, For the simple reason, we did it, and we have lowered ourselves to the kind of level we'd expect from low-life scum of the earth. That IS worse.
Who is we?
Not me or anyone I know.
I would personally confront anyone I know for such things.
Don't say we, those guys are not WE!
They will be taken care of in a fair and quick manner. They do not represent all of the good and upright people that I know.
Originally posted by NaplesX
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg.
Considering that at least two (and possibly as many as ten) of the prisoners who have died in US custory are being treated as having been murdered...I'd say that yes, the abuse of prisoners is on the same level. Murder is murder.
Originally posted by NaplesX
You seem to place the value of the abuses of prisoners on the same level with the brutal killing of Nick Berg IMO.
I don't see them as even being close, so no I haven't compared the two.
But that is another thread.
Not even close?
I think you forget that we killed this guy-- and other undocumented prisoners who never received numbers. Right now, the Army is investigating 25 suspicious deaths at Abu Ghraib. Again, the scale of abuses at that camp is much worse than you and other Americans may realize. Conversely, it's something that many vengeful, militant Arabs clearly understand. I would read the indispensable Seymour Hersh's latest piece, "Chain of Command" for a good background.
Originally posted by audiopollution
You seem to find humour in the suffering of others. I figure it's likely, as a sociopath, you'll be able to find some humour in the execution of Nic Berg and find a fitting googled picture to prove just how funny you are.
Your own moral indignation is far superceded by the indignation felt by the Iraqi detainees.
Oh please get off the pulpit.
I found that picture in a magazine called Creativity that we get at where I work. Everyone here found at least a little humor in the similarity, not the original acts. This included some left leaners.
Lighten up.