Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger to ship April 29

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  • Reply 61 of 96
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Xool

    I was somewhat shocked when my 9800 Pro (OEM) wasn't listed, even though I'm pretty certain it is supported.



    Same here - this stinks of a subtle marketing ploy intended to misinform users with older hardware - ironic that the listed cards happen to only be available on the G5 line (except for the powerbook options).



    really though - 9700 mobility and 5200 go are listed as compatable but the 9800 PRO is not? Ridiculous.
  • Reply 62 of 96
    denmarudenmaru Posts: 208member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Louzer

    Yeah, because we know all those P2P lawsuits for music and software have basically stopped all usage of them!





    I could imagine that there will be no Version available for these reasons.

    They sued someone for uploading a BETA(!!!) Version (yes, and for breaking a NDA, yadayadayada), I don´t want to think of what they would do to someone who uploads a good selling product....



    Quote:

    Originally posted by Louzer



    I'm sure you'll find it out there somewhere (you probably could find it now).




    Well, there is no sign of it as of now....

    (And remember, kids, downloading software you don´t own or you don´t have the rights for is illegal (and it makes baby jesus cry)).
  • Reply 63 of 96
    dfilerdfiler Posts: 3,420member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by semi-fly

    Same here - this stinks of a subtle marketing ploy intended to misinform users with older hardware - ironic that the listed cards happen to only be available on the G5 line (except for the powerbook options).



    really though - 9700 mobility and 5200 go are listed as compatable but the 9800 PRO is not? Ridiculous.




    Feel free to take off the tinfoil hat and wipe the foam from your mouth...



    The 9800 Pro is completely compatible, even a flashed PC OEM version running at 2x in a G4.
  • Reply 64 of 96
    cubecube Posts: 142member
    I were disappointed when my Powerbook whit Radeon Mobility 9600 where pulled from the supported gf card list! Anyone here that know if it still should work?
  • Reply 65 of 96
    f1turbof1turbo Posts: 257member
    Strawberry and Mike Peel: Are there two separate products and prices for single license and family pack on your education store site?



    04BlackWRX -- So when you last upgraded, it was specifically stated that it was single license only? Did you buy the educational version and try to install it? Nice car, by the way :-)



    What I'm getting at is that I'm wondering if the educational version is already a multiple license version, similar to MS Office educational. I'll ask the Mac geek at the university computer store also.
  • Reply 66 of 96
    Quote:

    Originally posted by F1Turbo

    04BlackWRX -- So when you last upgraded, it was specifically stated that it was single license only? Did you buy the educational version and try to install it? Nice car, by the way :-)



    F1Turbo - When I bought Jaguar and Panther (both from the Education Store on Apple.com) I was given a box with CD's in it. That's it. There was no single license or multiple license written on the boxes. What I have done in the past to try to get the Family Pack from the US Education Store is I get the product number for the Family Pack, I then go into the Education Store and search for that product. It comes up with no product could be found. I search by "family pack" and I did not get the OS Family Pack. So I just concluded that you could not buy the Family Pack with the Education discount (I'm lazy and that was already too much work in my opinon to try and find it).



    To answer your question though, you can install that "Education Box" on as many computers as you want. I installed it on my iBook & iMac and had no conflicts. So if you find a link/way to buy the Family Pack from the Education Store let me know.
  • Reply 67 of 96
    aplnubaplnub Posts: 2,605member
    So Apple enforces one software, per one specific computer like MS does with activation???





    Quote:

    Originally posted by O4BlackWRX

    F1Turbo - When I bought Jaguar and Panther (both from the Education Store on Apple.com) I was given a box with CD's in it. That's it. There was no single license or multiple license written on the boxes. What I have done in the past to try to get the Family Pack from the US Education Store is I get the product number for the Family Pack, I then go into the Education Store and search for that product. It comes up with no product could be found. I search by "family pack" and I did not get the OS Family Pack. So I just concluded that you could not buy the Family Pack with the Education discount (I'm lazy and that was already too much work in my opinon to try and find it).



    To answer your question though, you can install that "Education Box" on as many computers as you want. I installed it on my iBook & iMac and had no conflicts. So if you find a link/way to buy the Family Pack from the Education Store let me know.




  • Reply 68 of 96
    Quote:

    Originally posted by aplnub

    So Apple enforces one software, per one specific computer like MS does with activation???



    As far as I know, No apple does not force it. The only thing OS X does is if when you install the software you have the option of registering it. Obviously you wouldn't want to register it more then once. But there is no "activation" like in M$ XP. So far everything I have used of Tiger it's been the same way but I haven't gotten a final GM Build yet.
  • Reply 69 of 96
    louzerlouzer Posts: 1,054member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by aplnub

    So Apple enforces one software, per one specific computer like MS does with activation???



    To the best of my knowledge, no (they never have before). I think the comment specifcally about the education box was more to indicate there was nothing that said you couldn't install it on more than one machine.



    As for the family pack, people buy it to (a) be 'legit' with all their macs, and (b) there's no real financial reason not to. For less than another retail copy of OS X, you get four more licenses. MS uses product activation because (a) they really make a ton of money from Windows, and (b) they really don't want you to just buy one copy and install it on multiple computers, and (c) they're too greedy to say "Hey, we know people have 2 or 3 computers in their home, for only $100 more, get 4 more windows licenses" because even if they did do that, they'd probably try to hack some activation code around it to make sure they all get registered from the same IP address (or range) so you don't (*gasp*) get a family pack and give a license to a friend (some friend, giving them a license to use Windows?)
  • Reply 70 of 96
    louzerlouzer Posts: 1,054member
    Saw this comment on MOSR:



    Interestingly, the release date is the same day that Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy will premiere in theatres.



    Could someone enlighten me as to why, in the grand scheme of life, is this 'interesting'? Are people going to be torn "Stand in line for hitchhikers? Stand in line for Tiger? What to do!?!"
  • Reply 71 of 96
    louzerlouzer Posts: 1,054member
    Even more, saw this on MacsOnly:



    Surprise: Finally, those with Power Mac G5s (and maybe iMac G5s) are in for a terrific surprise that we can not disclose until April 29 because, for some reason, Apple hasn't.



    So, what kind of surprise do you think Tiger is going to offer those G5 owners?



    OK, enough of my posting from other websites.
  • Reply 72 of 96
    jlljll Posts: 2,713member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by O4BlackWRX

    As far as I know, No apple does not force it. The only thing OS X does is if when you install the software you have the option of registering it. Obviously you wouldn't want to register it more then once.



    Apple wouldn't be able to see the difference in installing and registering two copies or installing and registering one copy twice.
  • Reply 73 of 96
    jlljll Posts: 2,713member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Esteban

    There is a lot of cool whiz-bang gadjety shite in Tiger, but the newer iLife apps aren't included? WTF? What exactly are the big selling points?



    iLife is included with a Mac, not Mac OS X.





    Quote:

    Originally posted by Esteban

    Automator: If someone is that big of a geek, that they do ultra-repetitive tasks, they either have figured out Apple Script, or they use a pallette to do it; i.e. Photoshop.



    By that logic we would still be using typewriters - why make something easier?





    Quote:

    Originally posted by Esteban

    QuickTime 7: I'm sure it's a nice upgrade. Will they be able to convince anyone (content providers) to switch from Real and Windows?



    Unlike Real, QuickTime is much much more than playing content.





    Quote:

    Originally posted by Esteban

    Don't get me wrong I love Apple, But I when it seems that they're holding back on a "name" upgrade, it makes me a little sarcastic.



    Don't buy Tiger then, but you'll be missing a lot. Just because you can't get excited by reading a feature list doesn't mean that Tiger doesn't have features that will make your Mac experince much better - it will.
  • Reply 74 of 96
    jamiljamil Posts: 210member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Louzer

    MS uses product activation because (a) they really make a ton of money from Windows, and (b) they really don't want you to just buy one copy and install it on multiple computers, and (c) they're too greedy to say "Hey, we know people have 2 or 3 computers in their home, for only $100 more, get 4 more windows licenses" because even if they did do that, they'd probably try to hack some activation code around it to make sure they all get registered from the same IP address (or range) so you don't (*gasp*) get a family pack and give a license to a friend (some friend, giving them a license to use Windows?)



    Not to mention that the cost of OSX has remained the same ($129) since at least Jaguar which was released in 2002. That is for the full version. The edu discount has been $69. An upgrade of Win XP costs $199 and the full version is $299. There is no, home/media/lite/pro edition for OSX. less confusion for the consumer.



    Which means, If you want to geek out, you don't pay more for a pro edition, it's all there.



    It's definitely a case of get way more for less money.
  • Reply 75 of 96
    lundylundy Posts: 4,466member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Louzer

    Even more, saw this on MacsOnly:



    Surprise: Finally, those with Power Mac G5s (and maybe iMac G5s) are in for a terrific surprise that we can not disclose until April 29 because, for some reason, Apple hasn't.



    So, what kind of surprise do you think Tiger is going to offer those G5 owners?





    If he means NEW G5 and iMac G5 owners with the dual-core G5s, then maybe he is referring to the fact that Tiger has changed some of the utility dialog boxes so that they can handle displaying information about 4 CPUs. They are definitely changed.
  • Reply 76 of 96
    aplnubaplnub Posts: 2,605member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by lundy

    If he means NEW G5 and iMac G5 owners with the dual-core G5s, then maybe he is referring to the fact that Tiger has changed some of the utility dialog boxes so that they can handle displaying information about 4 CPUs. They are definitely changed.



    Who knows. I wish they would stop teasing us. It sounds like something specific for G5 computers. Maybe, just maybe, I will finally get that tricycle I always wanted!
  • Reply 77 of 96
    Quote:

    Originally posted by dfiler

    Feel free to take off the tinfoil hat and wipe the foam from your mouth...



    The 9800 Pro is completely compatible, even a flashed PC OEM version running at 2x in a G4.




    Never! I refuse to forgo my paranoid and disillusional mind set (reaches for box of tinfoil and container of foam) - seriously though, as I stated before, threre's no reason that the 9800 shouldn't be supported - you post, thankfully, confirms that
  • Reply 78 of 96
    xoolxool Posts: 2,460member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by lundy

    If he means NEW G5 and iMac G5 owners with the dual-core G5s, then maybe he is referring to the fact that Tiger has changed some of the utility dialog boxes so that they can handle displaying information about 4 CPUs. They are definitely changed.



    Based on the recent CHUD Tools fiasco, it doesn't surprise me that the GM build has not been released yet. If it was seeded it would get leaked and everyone would know about Hardware that is coming out before the 29th by finding information in NIBs, plists, etc.



    I'm cranky cuz I want my Tiger now, but perhaps once the hardware announcements are made we'll get the goods.
  • Reply 79 of 96
    xoolxool Posts: 2,460member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Louzer

    Could someone enlighten me as to why, in the grand scheme of life, is this 'interesting'? Are people going to be torn "Stand in line for hitchhikers? Stand in line for Tiger? What to do!?!"



    Buy 42 copies of Tiger, obviously!
  • Reply 80 of 96
    louzerlouzer Posts: 1,054member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Xool

    Based on the recent CHUD Tools fiasco, it doesn't surprise me that the GM build has not been released yet. If it was seeded it would get leaked and everyone would know about Hardware that is coming out before the 29th by finding information in NIBs, plists, etc.



    I'm cranky cuz I want my Tiger now, but perhaps once the hardware announcements are made we'll get the goods.




    You talking about those G5 powerbooks that people discovered last year?
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