There is a need nowadays for an option to "kill your hard drive" before selling it to someone, etc. Like in iTunes where you can deauthorize your computer to reset it, there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person
definitely, i nearly forgot to do the iTunes thing when i reformatted my girlfriend's Dell.
there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person
That's already in Panther.
Boot with the Install disk, run the disk utility and you can format the hard disk, writting random bit patterns to it.
There is a need nowadays for an option to "kill your hard drive" before selling it to someone, etc. Like in iTunes where you can deauthorize your computer to reset it, there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person
I think a deep format has always been an option though... Format the drive with either the "write zeroes" or "random character" option turned on. You will have to re-install the OS afterwards, but at least you will be selling the computer the way you bought it...
I use IP over Firewire every day for hours on end to access a windows laptop via RDC without any problems. It's fast and stable and significantly faster than regular 100mbit.
definitely, i nearly forgot to do the iTunes thing when i reformatted my girlfriend's Dell.
I forgot to de-authorize my work computer before I left, but all was OK. After a quick trip to Apple support they simply de-authorized all of the computers on my account. Just meant I had to authorize each one again, which wasn't that big a deal. I was just glad I didn't have that machine locked onto my account.
that's never happened to me! I always use the column view and it's so much better than anything else, I'm surprised Windows hasn't copied it already. It makes looking through folders faster, easier and less frustrating. Also the previews for music and movies are ingenious.
Column view obviously doesn't work with Spotlight, hence the Spotlight view but it works with everything else.
There is a need nowadays for an option to "kill your hard drive" before selling it to someone, etc. Like in iTunes where you can deauthorize your computer to reset it, there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person
There is now in Tiger. When you boot off the DVD and go into Disk Utility you now have a couple of options.
1. Erase Free Space (New to Tiger, not really relavent but just saying)
2. Go to Erase -> Security Options (then you have a list)
A.) Zero out HD (0's to every block)
B.) Random data write
C.) Zero out the HD 7 Passes (securely erases all data, I am doing it now and it takes about 3 hours on a 160GB HD)
D.) Zero out the HD 35 Passes (obviously only FBI could get info off the HD and even then it would be quetsionable)
So as you can tell Tiger has the ability to just about make any HD impossible to read.
D.) Zero out the HD 35 Passes, [SNIP] so as you can tell Tiger has the ability to just about make any HD impossible to read.
I was under the impression that it's far easier and quicker to kill a hard drive by throwing it out of the window. Can you imagine how long 35-pass low-level format of a 160GB drive will take?
I was under the impression that it's far easier and quicker to kill a hard drive by throwing it out of the window. Can you imagine how long 35-pass low-level format of a 160GB drive will take?
I think this is so you can the hard drive on to someone else to use without worry of them getting hold of your data. Also if you want to crate a fresh install may want to recover things later you wont want other data getting in the way.
Does zeroing all sectors make the hard drive unrecoverable or is 35 better? Surely the best would be 35 and then zero?
I think this is so you can the hard drive on to someone else to use without worry of them getting hold of your data. Also if you want to crate a fresh install may want to recover things later you wont want other data getting in the way.
Does zeroing all sectors make the hard drive unrecoverable or is 35 better? Surely the best would be 35 and then zero?
The 35 pass write is writing 0's to every block 35 times over. I am now approaching the 3 hour mark and I am on pass 3 of 7. It still says "Estimated time: 3 hours." When I tried the 35 pass it was like "Esitmated time: 12 hours." So I canceled that operation and decided to chose 7 and like I said it's been 3 hours and I've still got 4 more to go.
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Originally posted by ZO
There is a need nowadays for an option to "kill your hard drive" before selling it to someone, etc. Like in iTunes where you can deauthorize your computer to reset it, there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person
definitely, i nearly forgot to do the iTunes thing when i reformatted my girlfriend's Dell.
Originally posted by ZO
there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person
That's already in Panther.
Boot with the Install disk, run the disk utility and you can format the hard disk, writting random bit patterns to it.
Originally posted by ZO
There is a need nowadays for an option to "kill your hard drive" before selling it to someone, etc. Like in iTunes where you can deauthorize your computer to reset it, there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person
I think a deep format has always been an option though... Format the drive with either the "write zeroes" or "random character" option turned on. You will have to re-install the OS afterwards, but at least you will be selling the computer the way you bought it...
.:BoeManE:.
Originally posted by ZO
thing is, Im talking about joe-user. Joe user can understand something like the iTunes option, the same should be available to the system and such.
Oh i thought you meant an option that would automatically disable all music as well as erasing.
system wide and especially in mail
...at least there is no mention of a new Finder.
Originally posted by MacCrazy
definitely, i nearly forgot to do the iTunes thing when i reformatted my girlfriend's Dell.
I forgot to de-authorize my work computer before I left, but all was OK. After a quick trip to Apple support they simply de-authorized all of the computers on my account. Just meant I had to authorize each one again, which wasn't that big a deal. I was just glad I didn't have that machine locked onto my account.
I would like full FTP connection (secure FTP) not the weak ftp access there is now.
Originally posted by Groover
It seems as though Columns view is being removed, That makes me sad,
I would like full FTP connection (secure FTP) not the weak ftp access there is now.
Column view - where do you get that from? It's been there since Jaguar and is most people's favourite view.
Originally posted by MacCrazy
Column view - where do you get that from? It's been there since Jaguar and is most people's favourite view.
Unless its preview crashes the Finder.
Originally posted by costique
Unless its preview crashes the Finder.
that's never happened to me! I always use the column view and it's so much better than anything else, I'm surprised Windows hasn't copied it already. It makes looking through folders faster, easier and less frustrating. Also the previews for music and movies are ingenious.
Column view obviously doesn't work with Spotlight, hence the Spotlight view but it works with everything else.
Originally posted by ZO
There is a need nowadays for an option to "kill your hard drive" before selling it to someone, etc. Like in iTunes where you can deauthorize your computer to reset it, there should be an option that will nuke (Secure Delete) of EVERYTHING in your home directory and whatever else necessary before handing over a computer to another person
There is now in Tiger. When you boot off the DVD and go into Disk Utility you now have a couple of options.
1. Erase Free Space (New to Tiger, not really relavent but just saying)
2. Go to Erase -> Security Options (then you have a list)
A.) Zero out HD (0's to every block)
B.) Random data write
C.) Zero out the HD 7 Passes (securely erases all data, I am doing it now and it takes about 3 hours on a 160GB HD)
D.) Zero out the HD 35 Passes (obviously only FBI could get info off the HD and even then it would be quetsionable)
So as you can tell Tiger has the ability to just about make any HD impossible to read.
Originally posted by O4BlackWRX
There is now in Tiger. When you boot off the DVD and go into Disk Utility you now have a couple of options.
1. Erase Free Space (New to Tiger, not really relavent but just saying)
2. Go to Erase -> Security Options (then you have a list)
A.) Zero out HD (0's to every block)
B.) Random data write
C.) Zero out the HD 7 Passes (securely erases all data, I am doing it now and it takes about 3 hours on a 160GB HD)
D.) Zero out the HD 35 Passes (obviously only FBI could get info off the HD and even then it would be quetsionable)
So as you can tell Tiger has the ability to just about make any HD impossible to read.
Cool, I bet 35 passes takes an age! How many over-writes would you need to make it FBI proof!?
Originally posted by O4BlackWRX
D.) Zero out the HD 35 Passes, [SNIP] so as you can tell Tiger has the ability to just about make any HD impossible to read.
I was under the impression that it's far easier and quicker to kill a hard drive by throwing it out of the window.
Originally posted by costique
I was under the impression that it's far easier and quicker to kill a hard drive by throwing it out of the window.
I think this is so you can the hard drive on to someone else to use without worry of them getting hold of your data. Also if you want to crate a fresh install may want to recover things later you wont want other data getting in the way.
Does zeroing all sectors make the hard drive unrecoverable or is 35 better? Surely the best would be 35 and then zero?
Originally posted by MacCrazy
I think this is so you can the hard drive on to someone else to use without worry of them getting hold of your data. Also if you want to crate a fresh install may want to recover things later you wont want other data getting in the way.
Does zeroing all sectors make the hard drive unrecoverable or is 35 better? Surely the best would be 35 and then zero?
The 35 pass write is writing 0's to every block 35 times over. I am now approaching the 3 hour mark and I am on pass 3 of 7. It still says "Estimated time: 3 hours." When I tried the 35 pass it was like "Esitmated time: 12 hours." So I canceled that operation and decided to chose 7 and like I said it's been 3 hours and I've still got 4 more to go.