i think 5 USB ports, of which 3 are USB 2.0, and also two firewire ports.
Firewire is not a USB. USB and Firewire are different technologies like CDs and DVDs. The PR Newswire would be just as incorrect to say, "...a total of 5 CDs (3 CDs) and 2 DVDs...
Anyway, my point being a professional technology writer should know the difference.
This is an amazing update. I now hate my Powerbook.
i was thinking for ages about a 12" PowerBook and a 20" iMac - it's looking more tempting now - although i have a 15" 1.67 GHz PowerBook with 128MB GPU and 1GB RAM!
This is an amazing update. I now hate my Powerbook.
Eventually Apple needs to stop crippling a professional model like the 12" PowerBook; FireWire 800 and GigE would be a good start. More robust GPU and faster CPU would possibly get you into heat problems.
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Originally posted by kotatsu
Does anyone know what the response time of the 20" LCD is?
Personally I always thought the 20" iMac displays were lower spec'd (lower contrast, higher delay) then their 20" Cinema Displays. It may not be the case since it would be a waste of money to have multple panels of the same size.
All in all this is a great update. With the new iMac and eMac their lines are once again well segregated.
Hopefully they fixed the noise (whine) problem with this rev. Some said it was from the hard drive and was only heard when the systems fans were on low-speed. Not sure, but if its fixed these will be great AIOs.
here's an idea for some enterprising plasticsmith, or griffin or whomever...
make an acrylic carrying case, that gives a fold-up tray for the keyboard to be carried in (when the tray is up, it would protect the screen from damage - intergrate a small trackball in the tray, too, or trackpad), a flip-out stand in the back, and a handle on the top. sure, it'll be kinda like a white-plastic briefcase, but it'll be the closest to a 2GHz G5 "Powerbook" we may see for a while.
Damn, i was planning on getting a Mac mini and a 20in display, but these iMacs have everything I need and are so much better value, since all the add-ons I would be putting in a mini (RAM, bluetooth, wireless, bigger HD) are all in this iMac. So difficult to justify a 20in display and Mac mini now, since the ONLY advantage it has now is that it is sexier IMHO than the iMac. Oh the dilemmas.... \
Firewire is not a USB. USB and Firewire are different technologies like CDs and DVDs. The PR Newswire would be just as incorrect to say, "...a total of 5 CDs (3 CDs) and 2 DVDs...
That's not what it says. There are 5 USB ports, three of which are USB 2. The other two, then, are obviously USB 1.1.
There are also two FireWire ports.
There is no ambiguity in the sentence because FireWire is not USB.
Damn, i was planning on getting a Mac mini and a 20in display, but these iMacs have everything I need and are so much better value, since all the add-ons I would be putting in a mini (RAM, bluetooth, wireless, bigger HD) are all in this iMac. So difficult to justify a 20in display and Mac mini now, since the ONLY advantage it has now is that it is sexier IMHO than the iMac. Oh the dilemmas.... \
well, the other advantage is that the display could migrate to a future computer upgrade down the road.
Firewire is not a USB. USB and Firewire are different technologies like CDs and DVDs. The PR Newswire would be just as incorrect to say, "...a total of 5 CDs (3 CDs) and 2 DVDs...
Anyway, my point being a professional technology writer should know the difference.
LOL. Thanks guy, I understand the difference between the USB family and the Firewire family. I just can't help myself from beating this poor horse one more time and saying your analogy is pretty weak - because there's a huge difference between USB and USB2 (unlike your CD/CD analogy), it's necessary to point out how many of each the iMac has. It's also important to make mention of the separate firewire ports. Yes seven ports altogether of three discrete types.
Great update to the iMacs. Let's not get hung up on how one may have misinterpreted the sentence structure of the release. :-)
If you are using a powermac for serious media work, you NEED gigabit ethernet, you dont want wifi no matter how small the studio 1,000Mbps is WAY better than 54Mbps.
Yup! Bluetooth is only good for reeaalllyyyy slow keyboards, mice, etc.
WiFi isn't nearly as fast as the numbers indicate. There is so much re-transmittal of packets due to wireless's hiccups, that the 54Mbps is actually about half that.
Eventually Apple needs to stop crippling a professional model like the 12" PowerBook; FireWire 800 and GigE would be a good start. More robust GPU and faster CPU would possibly get you into heat problems.
One problem is that both 800 and Gigabit use more power than do their slower brethren.
Apple most likely feels that battery usage, which is already too great, is more important. At least for now.
well, the other advantage is that the display could migrate to a future computer upgrade down the road.
That appealled to me as well - the mini essentially becomes disposable and can be upgrade every 12-18 months for very little outlay. It is kind of hard to justify a mini now, but hopefully the next update to the mini will be impressive too.
yeah, wireless is fine for downloads from broadband (unless you have some sick-fast connection to the outside world), but not good for large file transfer work. at that point, it's better to lay down the cat5, or resort to target-disk mode (though that's not easily down if you're talking two G5 towers)...
Ahh, thanks. I did not know the iMac G5 had two USB 1.1 ports too.
Unfortunatly Apple is playing with the USB specs again.
The COMPUTER doesn't come with 5 USB ports. It comes with 3 USB 2 Hi-Speed ports.
The keyboard comes with 2 USB 2 Full-Speed ports.
Which means that if you opt for the wireless keyboard, you lose the two Full-Speed ports, and are down to 3.
Apple really should add those two ports to the computer itself. In the PC Forums, whenever it comes to talking about the Macs and ports, it's always pointed out that even a $400 PC has at least 4 USB ports, very often five. on the COMPUTER.
Very nice update to the iMac! The new model now takes care of any gripes I had with the specs of the first model, namely RAM and GPU.
This should also make a lot of reviewers happy, since a number of previous reviews mentioned that it would be nice if Airport Extreme and Bluetooth were standard. Not much that they can really grip about now, the entry level 17" iMac is now a very, very solid consumer PC.
here's an idea for some enterprising plasticsmith, or griffin or whomever...
make an acrylic carrying case, that gives a fold-up tray for the keyboard to be carried in (when the tray is up, it would protect the screen from damage - intergrate a small trackball in the tray, too, or trackpad), a flip-out stand in the back, and a handle on the top. sure, it'll be kinda like a white-plastic briefcase, but it'll be the closest to a 2GHz G5 "Powerbook" we may see for a while.
that is the best idea i have seen on appleinsider for a while, and someone actually suggesting a practical, reasonable, and enticing solution instead of just whining
apple's message definitely includes saying, we can't give you a g5 portable just yet, but hey, the iMac is easy to transport if you need to and is simple and sexy AND powerful.
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Originally posted by lanky_nathan
i think 5 USB ports, of which 3 are USB 2.0, and also two firewire ports.
Firewire is not a USB. USB and Firewire are different technologies like CDs and DVDs. The PR Newswire would be just as incorrect to say, "...a total of 5 CDs (3 CDs) and 2 DVDs...
Anyway, my point being a professional technology writer should know the difference.
Originally posted by ibook911
This is an amazing update. I now hate my Powerbook.
i was thinking for ages about a 12" PowerBook and a 20" iMac - it's looking more tempting now - although i have a 15" 1.67 GHz PowerBook with 128MB GPU and 1GB RAM!
Originally posted by ibook911
This is an amazing update. I now hate my Powerbook.
Eventually Apple needs to stop crippling a professional model like the 12" PowerBook; FireWire 800 and GigE would be a good start. More robust GPU and faster CPU would possibly get you into heat problems.
Originally posted by kotatsu
Does anyone know what the response time of the 20" LCD is?
Personally I always thought the 20" iMac displays were lower spec'd (lower contrast, higher delay) then their 20" Cinema Displays. It may not be the case since it would be a waste of money to have multple panels of the same size.
All in all this is a great update. With the new iMac and eMac their lines are once again well segregated.
Hopefully they fixed the noise (whine) problem with this rev. Some said it was from the hard drive and was only heard when the systems fans were on low-speed. Not sure, but if its fixed these will be great AIOs.
make an acrylic carrying case, that gives a fold-up tray for the keyboard to be carried in (when the tray is up, it would protect the screen from damage - intergrate a small trackball in the tray, too, or trackpad), a flip-out stand in the back, and a handle on the top. sure, it'll be kinda like a white-plastic briefcase, but it'll be the closest to a 2GHz G5 "Powerbook" we may see for a while.
Originally posted by AquaMac
Firewire is not a USB. USB and Firewire are different technologies like CDs and DVDs. The PR Newswire would be just as incorrect to say, "...a total of 5 CDs (3 CDs) and 2 DVDs...
That's not what it says. There are 5 USB ports, three of which are USB 2. The other two, then, are obviously USB 1.1.
There are also two FireWire ports.
There is no ambiguity in the sentence because FireWire is not USB.
Originally posted by G_Warren
Damn, i was planning on getting a Mac mini and a 20in display, but these iMacs have everything I need and are so much better value, since all the add-ons I would be putting in a mini (RAM, bluetooth, wireless, bigger HD) are all in this iMac. So difficult to justify a 20in display and Mac mini now, since the ONLY advantage it has now is that it is sexier IMHO than the iMac. Oh the dilemmas....
well, the other advantage is that the display could migrate to a future computer upgrade down the road.
Originally posted by AquaMac
Firewire is not a USB. USB and Firewire are different technologies like CDs and DVDs. The PR Newswire would be just as incorrect to say, "...a total of 5 CDs (3 CDs) and 2 DVDs...
Anyway, my point being a professional technology writer should know the difference.
LOL. Thanks guy, I understand the difference between the USB family and the Firewire family. I just can't help myself from beating this poor horse one more time and saying your analogy is pretty weak - because there's a huge difference between USB and USB2 (unlike your CD/CD analogy), it's necessary to point out how many of each the iMac has. It's also important to make mention of the separate firewire ports. Yes seven ports altogether of three discrete types.
Great update to the iMacs. Let's not get hung up on how one may have misinterpreted the sentence structure of the release. :-)
Originally posted by a_greer
If you are using a powermac for serious media work, you NEED gigabit ethernet, you dont want wifi no matter how small the studio 1,000Mbps is WAY better than 54Mbps.
Yup! Bluetooth is only good for reeaalllyyyy slow keyboards, mice, etc.
WiFi isn't nearly as fast as the numbers indicate. There is so much re-transmittal of packets due to wireless's hiccups, that the 54Mbps is actually about half that.
Originally posted by kotatsu
Does anyone know what the response time of the 20" LCD is?
It does.
I responded to the wrong post. Tried to delete it but it wouldn't let me. Sorry.
Originally posted by byron_hinson
It's just a plain 9600, not pro or xt. I'm wondered if this supports core image as only the 9600 XT is mentioned on the apple site.
This is the right post.
It does.
Originally posted by Amorph
That's not what it says. There are 5 USB ports, three of which are USB 2. The other two, then, are obviously USB 1.1.
There are also two FireWire ports.
There is no ambiguity in the sentence because FireWire is not USB.
Ahh, thanks. I did not know the iMac G5 had two USB 1.1 ports too.
Originally posted by IonYz
Eventually Apple needs to stop crippling a professional model like the 12" PowerBook; FireWire 800 and GigE would be a good start. More robust GPU and faster CPU would possibly get you into heat problems.
One problem is that both 800 and Gigabit use more power than do their slower brethren.
Apple most likely feels that battery usage, which is already too great, is more important. At least for now.
Originally posted by rok
well, the other advantage is that the display could migrate to a future computer upgrade down the road.
That appealled to me as well - the mini essentially becomes disposable and can be upgrade every 12-18 months for very little outlay. It is kind of hard to justify a mini now, but hopefully the next update to the mini will be impressive too.
Originally posted by AquaMac
Ahh, thanks. I did not know the iMac G5 had two USB 1.1 ports too.
Unfortunatly Apple is playing with the USB specs again.
The COMPUTER doesn't come with 5 USB ports. It comes with 3 USB 2 Hi-Speed ports.
The keyboard comes with 2 USB 2 Full-Speed ports.
Which means that if you opt for the wireless keyboard, you lose the two Full-Speed ports, and are down to 3.
Apple really should add those two ports to the computer itself. In the PC Forums, whenever it comes to talking about the Macs and ports, it's always pointed out that even a $400 PC has at least 4 USB ports, very often five. on the COMPUTER.
This should also make a lot of reviewers happy, since a number of previous reviews mentioned that it would be nice if Airport Extreme and Bluetooth were standard. Not much that they can really grip about now, the entry level 17" iMac is now a very, very solid consumer PC.
Originally posted by rok
here's an idea for some enterprising plasticsmith, or griffin or whomever...
make an acrylic carrying case, that gives a fold-up tray for the keyboard to be carried in (when the tray is up, it would protect the screen from damage - intergrate a small trackball in the tray, too, or trackpad), a flip-out stand in the back, and a handle on the top. sure, it'll be kinda like a white-plastic briefcase, but it'll be the closest to a 2GHz G5 "Powerbook" we may see for a while.
that is the best idea i have seen on appleinsider for a while, and someone actually suggesting a practical, reasonable, and enticing solution instead of just whining
apple's message definitely includes saying, we can't give you a g5 portable just yet, but hey, the iMac is easy to transport if you need to and is simple and sexy AND powerful.