<strong>And as I remember MOSR released pretty accurate specs a week before MWSF as well. They had the Mhz completely right.
MOSR also had the powermacs for MWNY right.</strong><hr></blockquote>Nah, MOSR was about the only place that didn't get the MWSF 2001 PowerMacs right. Even CNet had the big '733 Mhz' leak, but MOSR was being more conservative.
They were also wrong on MWNY 2001 - AtAT had it right, and that's about it.
Come on peeps give Dorsal (Dorsal M) a break... He is not trying to predict anything, he is just stating the specs of the test systems that Apple sends him (his company), and so far he's nailed some heavy stuff.
Just because Apple didn't release systems with the exact specs of the prototypes he got to play with doesn't mean he is full of crap.
I my self believe what he says because of all the stuff he has gotten right...
Dorsal just makes good guesses. He's well versed in the current tech trends, and in the trends among Apple's suppliers, such as Motorola. He hasn't given us any real inside info, only guesses. And of course a few of his guesses were right. That doesn't mean he "nailed" any expos, it only means that if one guesses enough, they will be right.
It doesn't impress me at all when someone says the mobos will either be like type A, or type B, or if Apple decides not to change them then they won't change, but maybe there will be a small bump in bus speed (since PC133 RAM is so popular), and if Apple decides then maybe the mobos will not get squat.
See how easy it is? I want real insider info, Worker Bee caliber shit---the sort of stuff that the Taliban would give their lives to have.
OK, so here's how it's done, listen up!
I've got four prototype powermacs on my desk.
Two are G5s, one has a 266 MHz bus, DDR ram, the other has a 400 MHz hypertransport mobo and it screams. But Apple is undecided between the two.
The other two prototypes use Apollo G4s, one with the current mobo, the other with an updated mobo using DDR ram, 266 MHz bus, and updated firewire bus. They both scream.
MHz: The G5s are clocked at 1.2 and 1.4 GHz. We got a few in that were clocked at 1.6 and 1.8 MHz, but Apple took them back because of some cooling issues. One of the Apollos is clocked at 1 GHz, the other at 1.133 GHz, but we've played around with the bus multiplier and clocked it as high as 1.4 GHz. So Apple could release the Apollo anywhere from 1 GHz up to 1.4 GHz, as the top end.
There, see how easy it is? I pulled that outta my ass, without even reading about anything. Dorsal's "inside info" is about the same...he makes these shotgun predictions that cover any and all scenarios, then when the new powermacs are announced he's always right, because he predicted EVERYTHING!
Damn you people are easy to fool, quick to bait, and hard to convince. Amazing!
No, Mike Breeden posted on xlr8yourmac.com an anonymous tip of SDRAM 733 MHz Power Macs and other announce products prior to MWSF 2001.
In fact, he was so skeptical, he took the news bit down for a while, then republished it as part of a tip from a C|Net article that posted the same stuff!
Note the date, a week before MWSF, MHz range spot on: 466-733
"While the new drives may be announced, actual shipment may come later, sources indicated. The company has been evaluating Pioneer-manufactured DVD-rewritable drives, which can also record CDs."
"A slot-loading DVD drive, a first for Mac notebooks, will be integrated into the machine, as will the lithium polymer battery."
Okay, so they flubbed up with the Lithium-Polymer battery rumor, but they were right about everything else.
I have 20 prototypes ranging in clock speed from 933 MHz to 1.6 GHz.
Some of them use PC133. Some of them use PC2100 and some of them even use PC800 RDRAM.
One is a G4 "Apollo" and another is a G5.
One has a slot load drive and two 5.25" bays while the other still only has one.
A few of these machines have 3 DIMM/RIMM slots, but just as many have 4. One machine has only 2 slots.
The new enclosures I've seen are very nice, but a few arrived in older style enclosures.
Yadda yadda.
EDIT: Oops, I forgot, please surgically implant buzzwords like HyperTransport, RapidIO, southbridge, northbridge, PCI-X, DDR-333, faster AirPort, Giga-E in CPU, ATA-133 throughout my post.
Eugene, while I agree with your sarcastic post.....I do think we can count on RapidIO as it is touted as a design feature of the G5.
One thing I would like to point out is the "north and south" bridge. Why is there no East/West bridge???? Must be all that Gangsta Rap East Coast, West Coast thang.
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But I also remember that somebody claimed that he was just posting specs, that already was on some roumor site several weeks before.
And as I remember MOSR released pretty accurate specs a week before MWSF as well. They had the Mhz completely right.
MOSR also had the powermacs for MWNY right.
(and we even had pictures of the new quick silver enclosure from MacosX.org)
Why is it that no one believes the roumor sites??
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<strong>And as I remember MOSR released pretty accurate specs a week before MWSF as well. They had the Mhz completely right.
MOSR also had the powermacs for MWNY right.</strong><hr></blockquote>Nah, MOSR was about the only place that didn't get the MWSF 2001 PowerMacs right. Even CNet had the big '733 Mhz' leak, but MOSR was being more conservative.
They were also wrong on MWNY 2001 - AtAT had it right, and that's about it.
WHACKED.
<strong>Big D had the SF powermacs WHACKED before everywhere else though.
WHACKED.</strong><hr></blockquote>
So you did mean MWSF? Does anyone have copies of the pre-MWSF posts?
Dorsal ain't got squat--SQUAT! And when the G5 is announced in Jan, it will be proven!
<img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
Here is what I'm hoping for
All have this advance DDRAM and 266 MHz bus thingy Dorsal has been talking about
PowerPC G4s
1.2GHz PowerPC G4
256K L2 & 2MB L3 per processor
256MB SDRAM memory
Gigawire
80GB Ultra ATA drive
SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX w/TwinView
Gigabit Ethernet
56K internal modem
(Optional Dual) 1.4GHz PowerPC G4
256K L2 & 2MB L3 per processor
512MB SDRAM memory
100GB Ultra ATA drive
Gigawire
SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce3 w/TwinView
Gigabit Ethernet
56K internal modem
Dual 1.6GHz PowerPC G4
256K L2 & 2MB L3 per processor
512MB SDRAM memory
120GB Ultra ATA drive
SuperDrive
Gigawire
NVIDIA GeForce3 w/TwinView
Gigabit Ethernet
56K internal modem
Each model $300 cheaper
BAHAHAHA!
i like the specs though...
Just because Apple didn't release systems with the exact specs of the prototypes he got to play with doesn't mean he is full of crap.
I my self believe what he says because of all the stuff he has gotten right...
later,
Bliz
Here is what I'm hoping for
All have this advance DDRAM and 266 MHz bus thingy Dorsal has been talking about
PowerPC G4s
1.2GHz PowerPC G4
256K L2 & 2MB L3 per processor
256MB SDRAM memory
Gigawire
80GB Ultra ATA drive
SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce2 MX w/TwinView
Gigabit Ethernet
56K internal modem
(Optional Dual) 1.4GHz PowerPC G4
256K L2 & 2MB L3 per processor
512MB SDRAM memory
100GB Ultra ATA drive
Gigawire
SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce3 w/TwinView
Gigabit Ethernet
56K internal modem
Dual 1.6GHz PowerPC G4
256K L2 & 2MB L3 per processor
512MB SDRAM memory
120GB Ultra ATA drive
SuperDrive
Gigawire
NVIDIA GeForce3 w/TwinView
Gigabit Ethernet
56K internal modem[/QB]<hr></blockquote>
Why's everyone talking about 'gigawire' when we don't have a clue what it is?
WOOHOO, retro computing!
[qb]
n/m
[ 11-27-2001: Message edited by: Nebrie ]</p>
It doesn't impress me at all when someone says the mobos will either be like type A, or type B, or if Apple decides not to change them then they won't change, but maybe there will be a small bump in bus speed (since PC133 RAM is so popular), and if Apple decides then maybe the mobos will not get squat.
See how easy it is? I want real insider info, Worker Bee caliber shit---the sort of stuff that the Taliban would give their lives to have.
OK, so here's how it's done, listen up!
I've got four prototype powermacs on my desk.
Two are G5s, one has a 266 MHz bus, DDR ram, the other has a 400 MHz hypertransport mobo and it screams. But Apple is undecided between the two.
The other two prototypes use Apollo G4s, one with the current mobo, the other with an updated mobo using DDR ram, 266 MHz bus, and updated firewire bus. They both scream.
MHz: The G5s are clocked at 1.2 and 1.4 GHz. We got a few in that were clocked at 1.6 and 1.8 MHz, but Apple took them back because of some cooling issues. One of the Apollos is clocked at 1 GHz, the other at 1.133 GHz, but we've played around with the bus multiplier and clocked it as high as 1.4 GHz. So Apple could release the Apollo anywhere from 1 GHz up to 1.4 GHz, as the top end.
There, see how easy it is? I pulled that outta my ass, without even reading about anything. Dorsal's "inside info" is about the same...he makes these shotgun predictions that cover any and all scenarios, then when the new powermacs are announced he's always right, because he predicted EVERYTHING!
Damn you people are easy to fool, quick to bait, and hard to convince. Amazing!
<strong>
Why's everyone talking about 'gigawire' when we don't have a clue what it is?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Gigawire is FireWire2... 800, 1.6, 3.2Megabits/sec
In fact, he was so skeptical, he took the news bit down for a while, then republished it as part of a tip from a C|Net article that posted the same stuff!
<a href="http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-4362156.html"; target="_blank">http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-4362156.html</a>;
Note the date, a week before MWSF, MHz range spot on: 466-733
"While the new drives may be announced, actual shipment may come later, sources indicated. The company has been evaluating Pioneer-manufactured DVD-rewritable drives, which can also record CDs."
"A slot-loading DVD drive, a first for Mac notebooks, will be integrated into the machine, as will the lithium polymer battery."
Okay, so they flubbed up with the Lithium-Polymer battery rumor, but they were right about everything else.
[ 11-28-2001: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
Some of them use PC133. Some of them use PC2100 and some of them even use PC800 RDRAM.
One is a G4 "Apollo" and another is a G5.
One has a slot load drive and two 5.25" bays while the other still only has one.
A few of these machines have 3 DIMM/RIMM slots, but just as many have 4. One machine has only 2 slots.
The new enclosures I've seen are very nice, but a few arrived in older style enclosures.
Yadda yadda.
EDIT: Oops, I forgot, please surgically implant buzzwords like HyperTransport, RapidIO, southbridge, northbridge, PCI-X, DDR-333, faster AirPort, Giga-E in CPU, ATA-133 throughout my post.
[ 11-28-2001: Message edited by: Eugene ]</p>
One thing I would like to point out is the "north and south" bridge. Why is there no East/West bridge???? Must be all that Gangsta Rap East Coast, West Coast thang.