Mac mini reborn at MacWorld?

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  • Reply 21 of 116
    octaneoctane Posts: 157member
    something funny Caesar said in that article was:



    It has been seven weeks since launch, and how many new shows are available for download? Zero. Apple still has the same five shows they started with. To me, this signals problems in Cupertino. Big problems. Since the launch of video iTunes, the entertainment industry has been making deals left, right, and center. Except Apple hasn't been a party to them. Doesn't anyone find this odd?



    I don't. SJ even said the current iPod is not the Video iPod, but rather the 'best ipod yet, that also plays video'. And since when has Apple publicly announced deals with anyone as they happen? I really don't think anyone is ready: Apple, the Studios, the internet (hardware-wise). Maybe I missed his point in that little snippet, I honestly don't know what other 'deals left, right, and center' is referring to. All this is not to say we WILL see a DVR blah blah, I'm just not sure he can be so sure we won't. Article was an interesting read though.
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  • Reply 22 of 116
    Quote:

    Originally posted by octane

    something funny Caesar said in that article was:



    It has been seven weeks since launch, and how many new shows are available for download? Zero. Apple still has the same five shows they started with. To me, this signals problems in Cupertino. Big problems.




    Maybe somebody should tell Caesar is has only been 7 weeks!



    Oh wait, he knows that. Perhaps he's just trying to find something wrong.



    Having said that, I think that $1.99 for low resolution video downloads is a nonstarter. I just don't think it is going to fly like music has. The 20 million in the first few days can easily be attributed to a few "let me see" impulse purchases.
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  • Reply 23 of 116
    rolorolo Posts: 686member
    I agree with hmurchison. Screw Caesar and his minions. I want my Apple branded smart DVR sans service fee. I want to have the same rights as anyone with a VCR. Record a show, timeshift, etc. Burning a DVD should be the same as recording a tape.



    Being a smart DVR, this new Mac mini could do a lot more. Having a Broadcom chip onboard, as the video iPod does, would allow all sorts of high quality video content on the Web to be shown on your TV. As for Apple's video content, as with movie trailers, consumers should have a choice of quality. We shouldn't have to settle for VHS quality for TV shows.



    With Front Row, you can show all your iMovies and photos on your TV, along with all the rest of the stuff it supports.



    Oh, and I imagine the REAL video iPod is yet to come.
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  • Reply 24 of 116
    Though I think Apple would like to sell only download shows. I suspect they are still a hardware company at heart and would be content selling millions of DVRs (perhaps giving away the TV listing/data service...but only for use by Apple DVRs...the exact reverse of the TiVO model).
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  • Reply 25 of 116
    rolorolo Posts: 686member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Chris Cuilla

    Though I think Apple would like to sell only download shows. I suspect they are still a hardware company at heart and would be content selling millions of DVRs (perhaps giving away the TV listing/data service...but only for use by Apple DVRs...the exact reverse of the TiVO model).



    Yep, that's what I'd like to see. I want my MacTV!



    (Yes, I know there was once a black MacTV but you know what I mean.)
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  • Reply 26 of 116
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    Originally posted by sunilraman

    if it has anything to do with Viiv that would be apple showing how to apply intel's tech superbly



    Intel has done all the work to develop this with the Viiv platform. Apple will simply implement the Intel solution as a first adopter, beating Microsoft and the Wintel clones to market with this next generation media solution.



    Juice for Apple :

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    Now imagine what Apple's designers and interface engineers -- those who built iTunes and the iPod -- could do with a machine built from the ground up with home entertainment in mind. "Intel has been stymied by what you might call a lack of imagination on the part of its hardware partners and by Microsoft," says Charles Wolf, an analyst with brokerage Needham & Co. "It has always wanted to move aggressively into the living room, and now that the gaming world is turning to IBM (IBM ) for its chips, it doesn't want to miss out on the consumer business. This is where Intel and Apple have the same interest. Apple will be at the forefront of showing how Intel chips can be used in that way."



    [my bold]
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  • Reply 27 of 116
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Chris Cuilla

    . The 20 million in the first few days can easily be attributed to a few "let me see" impulse purchases.



    Heh. Where did you get that from? It's more like 1 Million for the first 20 days.
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  • Reply 28 of 116
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    Originally posted by Gene Clean

    Heh. Where did you get that from? It's more like 1 Million for the first 20 days.



    You are right. 1M in 20 days...not 20M. My "dyslexia" acting up. Sorry. Makes the case for a bunch of "let's see" impulse buys even more likely.
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  • Reply 29 of 116
    i must say though that kaleidoscope is a bit of a bollocks name. in Asia anyway, most people (a) won't be able to pronounce it properly (b) won't know what it means (c) will not be able to conceptually tie it to apple and the features the new macintel mini will offer.



    it should be rebadged for Asia as

    Apple MiniFast! TV Capture Special



    muah ha aha ha ha ha. yes, i'm finding the standard of Engrish here in Malaysia is even worse than it was 20 years ago when i was a kid and winning essay competitions and stuff.
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  • Reply 30 of 116
    Quote:

    Originally posted by sunilraman

    i must say though that kaleidoscope is a bit of a bollocks name. in Asia anyway, most people (a) won't be able to pronounce it properly (b) won't know what it means (c) will not be able to conceptually tie it to apple and the features the new macintel mini will offer.



    That's why it'll only be kept as an internal codename.
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  • Reply 31 of 116
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Aphelion

    Intel has done all the work to develop this with the Viiv platform. Apple will simply implement the Intel solution as a first adopter, beating Microsoft and the Wintel clones to market with this next generation media solution.



    Juice for Apple :





    [my bold]






    yes, yes yes. won't intel be really happy that Apple is here to implement it superbly instead of microsoft jacking the whole thing up and then placing some silly "tv recording assistant" on top of the whole thing and then making it crash due to overheating ala xbox360
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  • Reply 32 of 116
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    Originally posted by kim kap sol

    That's why it'll only be kept as an internal codename.



    well, hopefully
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  • Reply 33 of 116
    cubistcubist Posts: 954member
    Isn't the Tivo actually a Linux PC running a special application? Perhaps they could port that application to MacOS.
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  • Reply 34 of 116
    octaneoctane Posts: 157member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by cubist

    Isn't the Tivo actually a Linux PC running a special application? Perhaps they could port that application to MacOS.



    haha, that'd really piss off Tivo
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  • Reply 35 of 116
    How exactly do you port a closed-source application?
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  • Reply 36 of 116
    cosmonutcosmonut Posts: 4,872member
    I would be willing to pay a subscription for an Apple DVR service. It could cover the cost of guide listings AND downloading any shows that I forgot to record. $19.99 a month anyone?
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  • Reply 37 of 116
    wmfwmf Posts: 1,164member
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    Originally posted by marzetta7

    Hmm, very interesting indeed. If this rumor is true, it makes me wonder if Apple plans on releasing a line of displays for the home as well. A 65 inch Apple LCD with at least 1920 X 1080 resolution with 1080p playback would have me sold in the living room...



    Would it have you sold at $20,000? That's how much Sharp is charging (last I checked).
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  • Reply 38 of 116
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Intel showed this "mini" computer at their Viiv technology demonstration.







    Caption in article: A mini PC based on Intel?s Yonah processor to hit the market in 1Q06, with the Viiv logo.



    Intel viiv link.
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  • Reply 39 of 116
    Quote:

    Originally posted by CosmoNut

    I would be willing to pay a subscription for an Apple DVR service. It could cover the cost of guide listings AND downloading any shows that I forgot to record. $19.99 a month anyone?



    No. That blows.
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  • Reply 40 of 116
    Okay, so a monthly service would blow, but what about as part of .mac? maybe a tiered .mac for entertainment and basic?
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